deserted Gorean sims and combat in my time zone

[Zalificent Corvinus]

2 minutes ago, Paul Hexem said:

I don't have a lot of faith in LL, but even I don't think they're that inept. You win the negativity award on that one.

That wasn't "Lack of faith in LL".

That was "I have read your posting history and have never seen a suggestion from you that didn't involve trying to turn SL into a FPS, and getting rid of everything that makes SL into SL, and driving off most of the paying customers.

That's a lack of faith in your suggested "improvements"

LL cannot make SL into a FPS in triple A game 8k resolution.

Have you EVER looked at the credits for any actual "game"?

50-75 coders, 50-75 3d modelers, 25-50 texture artists, 25-50 sound recordists, editors and ADR people, 100 QA/Beta testers, etc., etc., etc.

SL has Vir, Rider, and a handful of others.

 

All this "Delete all the content, ban most of the paying users, remake it as an AAA fps in 8k before the money runs out and the company goes under because vast untapped new market of people who don't want SL" nonsense is not a suggestion for an "Improvement".

 

[Sid Nagy]

18 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said:

The question is whether the percentage of new people who come and rent land covers the expense of those who don't. Considering the cost of the basic Premium and how much one gets back in the form of a weekly stipend, the amount remaining barely cover the expense of the resident's time and load inworld. 

Don't forget that LL prints the money.
For them it has another value than for us, the consumers.

Edited July 29, 2023 by Sid Nagy

[Kathlen Onyx]

1 minute ago, Arielle Popstar said:

But would you support for example the SL front page displaying and promoting a Gorean RP in the interest of bumping up the new user count and retention?

If LL decided that advertising Gorean RP on their splash page (which I highly doubt they'd ever do) then I would assume that they did research that doing it would bring in new users. It doesn't matter what I support or don't support.  I'm a user of the platform not an employee.

2 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said:

That sounds so toxic! 

Why? I wouldn't socialize with people into ABDL Roleplaying either.

[Zalificent Corvinus]

6 minutes ago, Randall Ahren said:

 

They don't play Gor all the time. They do it for awhile, and then go somewhere and do other things, like dancing at Franks, where you might socialize with them. But if they're completely gone from SL, no you won't be socializing with them at all.

 

Based on the observed behaviour of many Goreans when they are not in Gor, I wouldn't willingly socialise with them anywhere. That's speaking from personal experience.

Oh and I wouldn't be seen dead at Franks either. I HATE Jazz. Goreanss who like Jazz? No thank you, that's a HARD pass.

[Arielle Popstar]

Just now, Sid Nagy said:

Don't forget that LL prints the money.
For them it has another value than for us the consumers.

They print the money but they also buy the money which means to some degree at least it still costs them the same amount as they initially sold it for. The only advantage is those L$ that get absorbed into the economy and never gets cashed out.

[Randall Ahren]

Just now, Zalificent Corvinus said:

Based on the observed behaviour of many Goreans when they are not in Gor, I wouldn't willingly socialise with them anywhere. That's speaking from personal experience.

Oh and I wouldn't be seen dead at Franks either. I HATE Jazz. Goreanss who like Jazz? No thank you, that's a HARD pass.

You're so tolerant and not prejudiced at all.

[Coffee Pancake]

3 hours ago, sirhc DeSantis said:

You always forget to address why we are still here.

It doesn't matter why we are still here.

We are here.

We're not leaving.

It's cold but that the truth of it.

49 minutes ago, Zalificent Corvinus said:

That might be due to the fact that your suggestions for "improving" SL are always terrible ideas that would cause more harm than good, some of which, indeed, would cause the platform to shut down in months if not weeks or days if ever implemented

Here's the problem, we're loosing people like sand though our fingers.

We're all very pro fingers for holding fine sand.

MOAR FINGERS is our yearly rallying cry, as it has been our rallying cry every year.

Roblox is a bucket. They are burning money because at this stage of their business, they don't need to be profitable. They directly employ over 2000 people. They have over 58 million daily active users. They are burning money to build the platform. They are unprofitable on purpose.

[Arielle Popstar]

1 minute ago, Randall Ahren said:

You're so tolerant and not prejudiced at all.

Do have to admire those who are consistent in that they just hate everyone.

[Coffee Pancake]

3 minutes ago, Randall Ahren said:

You're so tolerant and not prejudiced at all.

This is the thing .. people here are like that for every single social group that isn't their own.

We can't do anything about the mud we're all sat in, so we turn that frustration to othering each other.

When SL implodes the few left will be happy this hurts others too.

[Arielle Popstar]

6 minutes ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said:

If LL decided that advertising Gorean RP on their splash page (which I highly doubt they'd ever do) then I would assume that they did research that doing it would bring in new users. It doesn't matter what I support or don't support.  I'm a user of the platform not an employee.

Why? I wouldn't socialize with people into ABDL Roleplaying either.

And that is maybe part of the problem isn't it? That the Lindens do not promote the platform to those who are most likely to be the easiest to retain long term in being part of a group.

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Why? I wouldn't socialize with people into ABDL Roleplaying either.

Well if they are out of character like we were discussing, then you wouldn't be able to tell if they are without a droopy diaper on.

[Sid Nagy]

13 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said:

They print the money but they also buy the money which means to some degree at least it still costs them the same amount as they initially sold it for. The only advantage is those L$ that get absorbed into the economy and never gets cashed out.

LL doesn't buy L$.
If there isn't enough demand, the number of L$ that hang above the market increases.
They ain't fools who buy their own printings.
 

Edited July 29, 2023 by Sid Nagy

[Arielle Popstar]

12 minutes ago, Sid Nagy said:

LL doesn't buy L$.
If there isn't enough demand, the number of L$ that hang above the market increases.
They ain't fools who buy their own printings.
 

Wouldn't they have to for those creators or Landlords wanting to cash out?

[Rowan Amore]

16 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said:

Wouldn't they have to for those creators or Landlords wanting to cash out?

Buying and selling in the LindeX is between users.  We buy from those selling.  We sell.to.those buying.  

[Sid Nagy]

19 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said:

Wouldn't they have to for those creators or Landlords wanting to cash out?

No. Consumers buy and sell on the Exchange.
LL only takes the transaction fees.

[Gabriele Graves]

5 minutes ago, Randall Ahren said:

When a group leaves SL, whether it's BDSM lovers, goreans, tinies, furries, liberals, conservatives or whatever, regardless of whether you personally like the group, it hurts SL. The group members don't just participate in that particular group, they have varied interests and contribute to SL beyond that particular membership. Variety is the spice of SL and of RL, and when it gets down to just one or two people left in-world, variety is going to be lacking.

People expressing that they don't care about a particular group of people and their activities in SL is not the same as

a) Wishing them gone.
b) Not appreciating that those people are helping to keep the lights on with the rest of us.

People don't have to care about every group of people and what they do here.

Edited July 29, 2023 by Gabriele Graves

[Rowan Amore]

2 minutes ago, Gabriele Graves said:

People expressing that they don't care about a particular group of people and their activities in SL is not the same as

a) Wishing them gone.
b) Not appreciating that those people are helping to keep the lights on with the rest of us.

People don't have to care about every group of people and what they do here.

I was just about to post pretty much THIS^^

[Coffee Pancake]

5 minutes ago, Gabriele Graves said:

a) Wishing them gone.

Yet that's been happening this entire thread, or at least celebrating they already left.

[Love Zhaoying]

Did anyone mention yet, that the further we get in time from the publication of the Gor novels, the less there is a general awareness of them, and the more irrelevant they are? This is the obvious reason Gor will fade over time.

[Gabriele Graves]

1 minute ago, Coffee Pancake said:

Yet that's been happening this entire thread, or at least celebrating they already left.

No it hasn't.  There was a couple of comments at best.  Stop it.

[Coffee Pancake]

Just now, Love Zhaoying said:

Did anyone mention yet, that the further we get in time from the publication of the Gor novels, the less there is a general awareness of them, and the more irrelevant they are? This is the obvious reason Gor will fade over time.

Did anyone mention Conan.

Did anyone even bother to google "conan exiles gor"

No, of course not.

Go on, it's easy ..

[Zalificent Corvinus]

Just now, Randall Ahren said:

When a group leaves SL, whether it's BDSM lovers, goreans, tinies, furries, liberals, conservatives or whatever, regardless of whether you personally like the group, it hurts SL. The group members don't just participate in that particular group, they have varied interests and contribute to SL beyond that particular membership. Variety is the spice of SL and of RL, and when it gets down to just one or two people left in-world, variety is going to be lacking.

 

 

And once again, you conflate "Leave others to their otherness" with "LL should force you to socialise with people you dislike, because SL is a SOCIAL PLATFORM!"

You complain that my choice to not socialise with people whose lifestyle I dislike, in a venue with music i loath, is "intollerence" but it's perfectly ok for YOU to auto-block tiotal strangers for going to the bathroom without logging ouut of SL, or complain that female avatars are allowed to not reply to sex-pest IM spam

If Goreans want to be Goreans in Gorean venues, fine, I don't have to visit those places and i don't. But YOU have no right to demand I socialise with them in Jazz clubs, and complain when I don't

YOU have no right to complain when I auto-block them for spamming me with their toxic lifestyle, when they are outside Gor sims, YOU have no right to complain, that I deliberately avoid Jazz Clubs.

Heaven forbid, that I might admit I also loath Rap music, I wonder what "shocked and outraged that people have choice in SL" insults you'll hurl at that admission.

Oh I'm not a big fan of Sousa Marches either, just for the record, or sushi, not a dog person either... care to scream intollerence because I don't eat raw fish to the sound of the Liberty Bell march while hugging a large dog?

 

Oh the HORRER, that as late as 2023, LL still allow the terrible injustice of people not hugging dogs and eating sushi to the sound of Sousa, LL must ACT NOW to fix this, because SL is a SOCIAL PLATFORM...

/massive-eyeroll

[Love Zhaoying]

I think someone misses the Gor's "rich contribution to the tapestry of fetish". 

[Silent Mistwalker]

4 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Did anyone mention yet, that the further we get in time from the publication of the Gor novels, the less there is a general awareness of them, and the more irrelevant they are? This is the obvious reason Gor will fade over time.

They're still being written and published.

[Arielle Popstar]

4 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Did anyone mention yet, that the further we get in time from the publication of the Gor novels, the less there is a general awareness of them, and the more irrelevant they are? This is the obvious reason Gor will fade over time.

The last one came out this year and being the author is still alive, there might be more coming.

[Love Zhaoying]

1 minute ago, Coffee Pancake said:

Did anyone mention Conan.

Did anyone even bother to google "conan exiles gor"

No, of course not.

Go on, it's easy ..

You brought it up, why should we be curious about Conan's Gor connection, besides the fact you are practically begging us to be interested? This is weird!