Scylla Rhiadra Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, TDD123 said: The lasting one that actually preserves threads, of course.. I don't know what this means, TDD There's something to be said for preserving mistakes and awfulness, rather than sanitizing and pretending it never happened. But not always. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo Alpha Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: There's something to be said for preserving mistakes and awfulness, rather than sanitizing and pretending it never happened. I expect no less from corporate culture. I cannot expect you to do the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marigold Devin Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Solo Alpha said: I expect no less from corporate culture. I cannot expect you to do the same. That's a nice new name. May you have a happier more successful future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: I don't know what this means, TDD There's something to be said for preserving mistakes and awfulness, rather than sanitizing and pretending it never happened. But not always. You're going to need bigger rugs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo Alpha Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Marigold Devin said: That's a nice new name. May you have a happier more successful future. Yeah, I got fed up switching browsers .. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Solo Alpha said: Yeah, I got fed up switching browsers .. I dunno. I would have gone with Hans Alpha. You know. Hans Solo Solo = Alpha Hans Alpha Yeah ok, I know. Too weird. Edited November 26, 2021 by Silent Mistwalker Not going to bother editing the typo since LL in its infinite "wisdom" nixed using strike through on the edit window. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo Alpha Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said: Yeah ok, I know. Too weird. I considered Omega Alpha for a while, but refrained from using that. Edited November 26, 2021 by Solo Alpha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marigold Devin Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said: I dunno. I would have gone with Hans Alpha. You know. Hans Solo Solo = Alpha Hans Alpha Yeah ok, I know. Too weird. I'd have gone for Alf Alpha, but that may already have been taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orwar Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 33 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said: Solo = Alpha Eh? Alpha is the first letter of the Greek alphabet (hence, 'alphabet') - when referring to something as being 'alpha' it usually refers to 'first'. Not sure how first =/= solo? .. Also, his name is 'Han Solo', not 'Hans' .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Just now, Orwar said: Eh? Alpha is the first letter of the Greek alphabet (hence, 'alphabet') - when referring to something as being 'alpha' it usually refers to 'first'. Not sure how first =/= solo? .. Also, his name is 'Han Solo', not 'Hans' .. Solo is singular. So being the first means you are singular. Yeah... that darn s keeps sneaking in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marigold Devin Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) . Edited November 26, 2021 by Marigold Devin Not. My. Business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, Marigold Devin said: . I must have been having too much fun or something because you did quote me. Otherwise, I wouldn't have gotten the notice. 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marigold Devin Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said: I must have been having too much fun or something because you did quote me. Otherwise, I wouldn't have gotten the notice. 😛 You didn't miss anything. I was just droning on about the new name that Solo Alpha chose, realising I was talking about him behind his back as it were, or on his behalf, and really I don't know what goes on in his head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Pose/animation/stand creators who make ALL the poses in a set pigeon-toed. WHY?? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orwar Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 A little torn on this peeve, but .. Unrigged bangs. I mean, okay, I get it, making them optional is great. But for the most part they're a bit two-dimensional and will either clip with cheek bones or the eyelash alpha, and you need to position and rotate them so that they work out of the hair itself without doing any of that - and that can be pretty fiddly. Then some hairs come with 2 separate bangs for either side and just. Well. Are twice as time-consuming to get right, 'cause of course you can't just reverse the numbers on where you ended up putting the first one - but you do have to make sure that it looks, if not perfectly mirrored, at least natural and proper. One would think that, with how many hairs these days already come with style HUDs, it would be much easier to just have them rigged and that you're able to toggle their visibility .. Then again, they'd probably be rigged in such a way that for a lot of people, they'd clip with something one way or another. On the other hand, I do like that I can nab some bangs from one hairstyle and pop them on another and play around with it. But the whole process of looking at your avi's face and aligning the bangs until they look great, only to move the cam a little and realise they're floating 2 inches in front of your hairline .. Bleh! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 6 hours ago, Rowan Amore said: Pose/animation/stand creators who make ALL the poses in a set pigeon-toed. WHY?? Because it's "cute" and "girly." Seriously. That's it. That's the reason. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Because it's "cute" and "girly." Seriously. That's it. That's the reason. It's neither cute nor "girly" since boys can be pigeon toed, too. Quote In cases of metatarsus adductus, the symptoms are easy to see at birth or soon afterward. One or both of your baby’s feet will be turned inward, even at rest. You may notice the outer edge of the foot is curved, almost in a crescent shape. Internal tibial torsion may not be as obvious until your child starts walking. You may notice that one or both of their feet turn inward with every step. Medial femoral torsion may be noticeable after age 3, but obvious signs are usually present by age 5 or 6. In many cases, the foot and knee both turn in as your child walks. It may also be obvious even when your child stands in place. Children with medial femoral torsion often sit with their legs flat on the floor and their feet out to either side in a “W” shape. There is a related condition called out-toeing. It describes feet that turn outward. The same bone development problems that lead to intoeing can also cause out-toeing. https://www.healthline.com/health/parenting/pigeon-toes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said: It's neither cute nor "girly" since boys can be pigeon toed, too. https://www.healthline.com/health/parenting/pigeon-toes Ain't disagreeing with you. But I hope you'll have noted the scare quotes around "girly" and "cute." We're not talking about objective fact: this is about cultural perception. It seems to have derived most immediately from Japanese anime and kawaii, but in general there is a long tradition in many cultures of "awkward" feet position, footwear, and walking styles designating female "cuteness" and also, sometimes, a somewhat elite status. "if you’ve spent any time in Japan, you may have noticed that many Japanese women have a very distinctive “pigeon-toed” way of walking, with their toes pointed inward. It’s a very common sight, and supposedly the main reason why a large number of women walk this way is simply because they think it looks cute." (https://soranews24.com/2015/02/04/the-number-one-thing-that-foreign-men-find-not-so-kawaii-about-japanese-women/) Edited November 27, 2021 by Scylla Rhiadra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 28 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Because it's "cute" and "girly." Seriously. That's it. That's the reason. Yes, apparently everyone wants to stand around like a 4 year old. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Just now, Rowan Amore said: Yes, apparently everyone wants to stand around like a 4 year old. Yeah, I think you're right. I think it's infantilizing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Ain't disagreeing with you. But I hope you'll have noted the scare quotes around "girly" and "cute." We're not talking about objective fact: this is about cultural perception. It seems to have derived most immediately from Japanese anime and kuwaii, but in general there is a long tradition in many cultures of "awkward" feet position, footwear, and walking styles designating female "cuteness" and also, sometimes, a somewhat elite status. "if you’ve spent any time in Japan, you may have noticed that many Japanese women have a very distinctive “pigeon-toed” way of walking, with their toes pointed inward. It’s a very common sight, and supposedly the main reason why a large number of women walk this way is simply because they think it looks cute." (https://soranews24.com/2015/02/04/the-number-one-thing-that-foreign-men-find-not-so-kawaii-about-japanese-women/) I was taught (back when mothers taught such things) to always stand with one foot just slightly in front of the other, angled outward about 10 or so degrees, hands either clasped in front or left at the sides. She also had us walking around with a book balanced on our heads. She called it proper deportment. A lost art? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said: I was taught (back when mothers taught such things) to always stand with one foot just slightly in front of the other, angled outward about 10 or so degrees, hands either clasped in front or left at the sides. She also had us walking around with a book balanced on our heads. She called it proper deportment. A lost art? "Proper deportment," definitely a lost art. But it was also of course really about "how to look like an acceptable (and attractive and desirable) girl." I'd get admonished for fidgeting or goofing around, but in terms of how I stood and walked, I was self-taught. I affected to be a bit "punkish" as a teen, so I'd stand around looking "tough" (OMG, but I sure wasn't, though). How I walked in my Docs and work boots was every bit as much a part of my "costume" as my old army surplus jacket. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Ain't disagreeing with you. But I hope you'll have noted the scare quotes around "girly" and "cute." We're not talking about objective fact: this is about cultural perception. It seems to have derived most immediately from Japanese anime and kuwaii, but in general there is a long tradition in many cultures of "awkward" feet position, footwear, and walking styles designating female "cuteness" and also, sometimes, a somewhat elite status. "if you’ve spent any time in Japan, you may have noticed that many Japanese women have a very distinctive “pigeon-toed” way of walking, with their toes pointed inward. It’s a very common sight, and supposedly the main reason why a large number of women walk this way is simply because they think it looks cute." (https://soranews24.com/2015/02/04/the-number-one-thing-that-foreign-men-find-not-so-kawaii-about-japanese-women/) Just when I start to think there might be hope yet for the human race, then you have to go and squash it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: "Proper deportment," definitely a lost art. But it was also of course really about "how to look like an acceptable (and attractive and desirable) girl." I'd get admonished for fidgeting or goofing around, but in terms of how I stood and walked, I was self-taught. I affected to be a bit "punkish" as a teen, so I'd stand around looking "tough" (OMG, but I sure wasn't, though). How I walked in my Docs and work boots was every bit as much a part of my "costume" as my old army surplus jacket. I still think it's important how one carries themselves. I'll admit all the proper standing and such went out the window as a teen. However, when I became an adult, I found myself remembering what I learned. Don't slouch, hold your head up, don't fidget. I believe it's still something important and not necessarily tied to being attractive or desirable. Just adult. Men and women both. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said: I still think it's important how one carries themselves. I'll admit all the proper standing and such went out the window as a teen. However, when I became an adult, I found myself remembering what I learned. Don't slouch, hold your head up, don't fidget. I believe it's still something important and not necessarily tied to being attractive or desirable. Just adult. Men and women both. Oh, totally. If only for one's health. But, again, standing without slouching, not fidgeting (something else that is sometimes associated with "girlishness"), holding your head up -- that "means" looking adult. And as I actually sort of do want to look adult, I do those things. Except when I'm wearing an army surplus jacket and Docs, of course. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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