What SL teaches about other countries/cultures

[Tama Suki]

10 hours ago, Nick0678 said:

it's a rather small world if you think of it

The world seems small only to those who have superficially looked at it as a tourist and are convinced that they have really known it.

[Alwin Alcott]

12 minutes ago, Tama Suki said:

The world seems small only to those who have superficially looked at it as a tourist and are convinced that they have really known it.

are you comming to contribute to the discusison or a try to get this thread also closed asap?

please STOP calling others you disagree with superficiall or other bad names, thát is what triggers your threads to continuous closing. Is it really that difficult?

[Tama Suki]

22 minutes ago, Alwin Alcott said:

are you comming to contribute to the discusison or a try to get this thread also closed asap?

please STOP calling others you disagree with superficiall or other bad names, thát is what triggers your threads to continuous closing. Is it really that difficult?

I am having a peaceful and respectful discussion with a user.
I don't understand what your problem is Alwin. Or maybe yes but I can't solve it for you.

[Krystina Ferraris]

49 minutes ago, Tama Suki said:

The world seems small only to those who have superficially looked at it as a tourist and are convinced that they have really known it.

Absolutely this, I could have not said it better.

[StrongZer0]

48 minutes ago, Tama Suki said:

The world seems small only to those who have superficially looked at it as a tourist and are convinced that they have really known it.

I beg to disagree.

I do understand that this my be my anecdotal experience. Nevertheless, I find that it is small in ways that one does not fully understand until one travels outside of what they have grown to know. We tend to find several similarities even through the diverseness of culture, regardless of where on the planet you may leave your footprints. This is not to say the there is not nuance and complexities. Rather, we find that our circles of friends and influence extend much further out than we could ever have imagined. 

The beauty of travel, even as a tourist is to take the opportunity to experience something foreign to you. I believe that everyone takes a piece of something back with them and that, in a small way helps to add to their own culture, understanding and place in the world as we know it.

For those of us who have traveled and live as expats...we are just a bit jaded. Salty and opinionated. We have often lost the bright-eyed wonder and luster of what is new to us in the world. 🙂

[Krystina Ferraris]

3 minutes ago, StrongZer0 said:

 

For those of us who have traveled and live as expats...we are just a bit jaded. Salty and opinionated. We have often lost the bright-eyed wonder and luster of what is new to us in the world. 🙂

Well That’s interesting, as the last thing that I remember about the Philippines is the taste of drinks.

What I will never forget are children no bigger than 7 or 8 dragging their feet around the streets of Binondo and laying on the hard concrete, exhausted by the heat and hunger. Or people with facial tumours so huge they looked like the elephant man, begging for scraps or a few coins. 
Or families living under cardboard and car door shelters beside the Pan Pacific.

And yes, everything is saccharine sweet from tapioca cakes to drinks and meals, at least to my taste which is zero sugar on everything.

[Alwin Alcott]

37 minutes ago, Tama Suki said:

I am having a peaceful and respectful discussion with a user.
 

no you don't, it's not respectfull and peacefull at all to call other posts out as superficial and "only for those who" ... it's insulting, and you do this many many times.

Edited February 24, 2022 by Alwin Alcott

[Tama Suki]

17 minutes ago, StrongZer0 said:

I beg to disagree.

I do understand that this my be my anecdotal experience. Nevertheless, I find that it is small in ways that one does not fully understand until one travels outside of what they have grown to know. We tend to find several similarities even through the diverseness of culture, regardless of where on the planet you may leave your footprints. This is not to say the there is not nuance and complexities. Rather, we find that our circles of friends and influence extend much further out than we could ever have imagined. 

The beauty of travel, even as a tourist is to take the opportunity to experience something foreign to you. I believe that everyone takes a piece of something back with them and that, in a small way helps to add to their own culture, understanding and place in the world as we know it.

For those of us who have traveled and live as expats...we are just a bit jaded. Salty and opinionated. We have often lost the bright-eyed wonder and luster of what is new to us in the world. 🙂

But I wasn't condemning the tourist experience. I have been and will be a tourist too, precisely because I love that feeling of joyful tingling in the stomach and the intrpid expectation to immerse myself in something new and surprising.
I have never lost what you have beautifully synthesized with the bright-eyed wonder and luster.
As you yourself said, even as tourists we take within ourselves a small piece of the new culture we visit. It's a nice thing, but it's just a small piece, a nice souvenir. It is not true knowledge of another country. I have lived in England and Japan for years and still there are things about their cultures that I cannot completely understand or accept.
Ultimately I just wanted to say that as a tourist you can't really say you know another culture. You can't really get an idea of a people through a nice taxi driver who treats you like a good customer as he takes you from the airport to the hotel.

[StarlanderGoods]

2 minutes ago, Alwin Alcott said:

no you don't, it's not respectfull and peacefull at all to call other posts out as superficial and "only for those who" ... it's insulting, and you do this many many times.

he is a troll, just dont engage.

[StrongZer0]

4 minutes ago, Tama Suki said:

But I wasn't condemning the tourist experience. I have been and will be a tourist too, precisely because I love that feeling of joyful tingling in the stomach and the intrpid expectation to immerse myself in something new and surprising.
I have never lost what you have beautifully synthesized with the bright-eyed wonder and luster.
As you yourself said, even as tourists we take within ourselves a small piece of the new culture we visit. It's a nice thing, but it's just a small piece, a nice souvenir. It is not true knowledge of another country. I have lived in England and Japan for years and still there are things about their cultures that I cannot completely understand or accept.
Ultimately I just wanted to say that as a tourist you can't really say you know another culture. You can't really get an idea of a people through a nice taxi driver who treats you like a good customer as he takes you from the airport to the hotel.

As a US citizen living abroad in Japan, there are thing about my own culture I cannot completely understand or accept. LOL

[Tama Suki]

3 minutes ago, StrongZer0 said:

As a US citizen living abroad in Japan, there are thing about my own culture I cannot completely understand or accept. LOL

The same goes for me.
Perhaps it is an unfortunate or fortunate awareness that people like us cannot avoid acquiring.

[StrongZer0]

11 minutes ago, Krystina Ferraris said:

Well That’s interesting, as the last thing that I remember about the Philippines is the taste of drinks.

What I will never forget are children no bigger than 7 or 8 dragging their feet around the streets of Binondo and laying on the hard concrete, exhausted by the heat and hunger. Or people with facial tumours so huge they looked like the elephant man, begging for scraps or a few coins. 
Or families living under cardboard and car door shelters beside the Pan Pacific.

And yes, everything is saccharine sweet from tapioca cakes to drinks and meals, at least to my taste which is zero sugar on everything.

Yes, the first experience in the PI is eye-opening. Like Chris Rock said in his routine about taking that bus to your resort. Nevertheless, what I found to be very interesting besides getting my wallet stolen by a taxi driver in Manilla on my first trip there...but I digress. In the PI there are literally people who are truly poor, on a global standard of the world. However, many of them are genuinely nice and seemingly happy people. I've had more good conversations and great meal for little of nothing. 

The weather is pretty good to all things considering...always hot and humid but that constant sea breeze makes it all okay. Yes, there are naked kids in dirty water and that dude with no shirt or shoes carrying a chicken, but all-in-all, the PI is a place I love to go back to.

[Sid Nagy]

27 minutes ago, StarlanderGoods said:

he is a troll, just dont engage.

Tama tries to be part of both worlds, the one of the trolls and the one of the grown ups and that all on the same forums.
That is the main problem in fact. Otherwise it would be very easy to handle.

[rasterscan]

2 minutes ago, Sid Nagy said:

Tama tries to be part of both worlds, the one of the trolls and the one of the grown ups and that all on the same forums.
That is the main problem in fact. Otherwise it would be very easy to handle.

To date I've studiously avoided joining any of their threads. But just for you, Sid, I'm going to make an exception, as I think I like yew.

Edited February 24, 2022 by rasterscan

[Tama Suki]

10 minutes ago, Sid Nagy said:

Tama tries to be part of both worlds, the one of the trolls and the one of the grown ups and that all on the same forums.
That is the main problem in fact. Otherwise it would be very easy to handle.

Tama has her own personality and expresses herself however she wants.
I don't need to adjust to anything and I'm not afraid of anyone's judgment in real life, let alone on a small forum.
If you want to handle something try doing it with a part of your body, perhaps you will have more useful results for yourself.
That said, I'm going back to the ancient technique of silencing disturbing elements who spend their days looking for a target to unload their frustrations on.

[Sid Nagy]

Yawn.
I'm afraid you will cost me at least an extra scroll wheel of my mouse the coming time, because I don't do ploinkings.

If one wants to be part of a community, one has to adapt to a certain point.
Like it or not. Otherwise one is spitted out over and over again.

Edited February 24, 2022 by Sid Nagy

[Sid Nagy]

13 minutes ago, rasterscan said:

To date I've studiously avoided joining any of their threads. But just for you, Sid, I'm going to make an exception, as I think I like yew.

It is the Gddamned teacher in me ....
Always trying to even get the worst cases on the right side of the line.

[Tama Suki]

9 minutes ago, Sid Nagy said:

Yawn.
I'm afraid you will cost me at least an extra scroll wheel of my mouse the coming time, because I don't do ploinkings.

If one wants to be part of a community, one has to adapt to a certain point.
Like it or not. Otherwise one is spitted out over and over again.

The grotesque thing is that it is you, and the little club you proudly belong to, who take the discussions off the rails.
If this way of doing it is your sense of belonging to a community I believe that instead of pulling out the teacher's card you should reflect on the nature of your idea of community.
All this, however, somehow also connects to the discussion that was quietly taking place.
But now I'll silence you. Good day.

[Krystina Ferraris]

1 hour ago, StrongZer0 said:

The weather is pretty good to all things considering...always hot and humid but that constant sea breeze makes it all okay. Yes, there are naked kids in dirty water and that dude with no shirt or shoes carrying a chicken, but all-in-all, the PI is a place I love to go back to.

It's only a short hop from Japan, you should.

[Maryanne Solo]

1 hour ago, Tama Suki said:

The grotesque thing is that it is you, and the little club you proudly belong to, who take the discussions off the rails.
If this way of doing it is your sense of belonging to a community I believe that instead of pulling out the teacher's card you should reflect on the nature of your idea of community.
All this, however, somehow also connects to the discussion that was quietly taking place.
But now I'll silence you. Good day.

No sorry the "little club thing" is the oldest tiredest chestnut ever to grace the SL forums.
Hence are you a "reincarnation" of a formerly disgraced blowhard or coffee sniffer? 😂🤨
I was happy to remain silent until you pulled that one out of your bag of tricks.
Contribute on 3d issues for goodness sake ^^ and enjoy the rapport.

[Nick0678]

2 hours ago, Tama Suki said:

The world seems small only to those who have superficially looked at it as a tourist and are convinced that they have really known it.

The whole point is to enjoy life in the best possible way, even while doing your job.

I understand you have experienced traveling the world in a more intellectual / philosophical way but i like nice luxurious bars/restaurants where i can enjoy my medium dry Vodka Martini's with a lemon peel. (i do like casinos as well)

[Sid Nagy]

Stirred and not shaken, I guess?

[Nick0678]

Just now, Sid Nagy said:

Stirred and not shaken, I guess?

I will be honest with you Sid, it never really bothered me as long as it tasted right (good choice of vodka) , if not then i would ask for a Cuba libre which is fine too. Must be flexible when it comes to having a drink while traveling abroad.

 

[Tama Suki]

12 minutes ago, Nick0678 said:

I will be honest with you Sid, it never really bothered me as long as it tasted right (good choice of vodka) , if not then i would ask for a Cuba libre which is fine too. Must be flexible when it comes to having a drink while traveling abroad.

 

I imagine you with Bermuda shorts and a Hawaiian shirt taking a budweiser in Munich or a cuba libre in Venice. 😂

[Krystina Ferraris]

10 minutes ago, Tama Suki said:

I imagine you with Bermuda shorts and a Hawaiian shirt taking a budweiser in Munich or a cuba libre in Venice. 😂

🤣🤣 don’t forget the lady in dirndl serving the Bud 🤣 per noi invece uno spritz a Venezia 🍹