Smoking: Influencing vs Programmability

[Rowan Amore]

So who decides which pictures of smoking have enough artist merit to be justified?  Me?  You? 

[LittleMe Jewell]

2 minutes ago, xLunaea said:

That is flawed logic. That is like saying, "You can't choose what depictions of sexual content is bad or not though." Even though pedophilia is a huge problem.

Your comment is totally flawed logic.  There is absolutely no valid comparison there.

[Arielle Popstar]

6 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

Because I don't agree with those who believe all censorship is bad? lol

Like I said, you have to examine each case...the situation...the audience...the purpose for your artistic presentation.  People will naturally not agree on everything, but that is not an excuse to make a rigid rule such as "all censorship is wrong".

You are talking like each artistic rendering should go through some sort of peer review so you can have your say about whether it should be censored. Therein lies the problem already. "Democratic" censorship.

[Luna Bliss]

1 minute ago, Rowan Amore said:

So who decides which pictures of smoking have enough artist merit to be justified?  Me?  You? 

You really have no ability to cope with nuance and uncertainty, do you?

[Shiera Kealoha]

Just now, Rowan Amore said:

Not at all the same thing.

And I am making the point that certain things should be censored. If you censor one thing, that does not necessarily mean that everything in that category also should be censored.

[Luna Bliss]

1 minute ago, Arielle Popstar said:

You are talking like each artistic rendering should go through some sort of peer review so you can have your say about whether it should be censored. Therein lies the problem already. "Democratic" censorship.

You are being too literal.

[Silent Mistwalker]

24 minutes ago, Sammy Huntsman said:

It's too late for me. Lol 

*tosses you a rope and hauls you out*

[Arielle Popstar]

2 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

You are being too literal.

Then be clearer about your meanings. A number of your recent posts are implying censorship by vote.

[Luna Bliss]

There is no censorship regarding smoking.

Each artist has to decide for themselves whether they think it's okay to glamorize a habit that kills so many people each year. 

And I'm free to disagree with their decision and believe their choice is wrong if they glamorize something that harms others.

Now with the presentation of that art, obviously photos glamorizing smoking would be inappropriate in the halls of a school...or at a health center...so situations must be taken into account.

[Luna Bliss]

1 minute ago, Arielle Popstar said:

5 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

You are being too literal.

Then be clearer about your meanings. A number of your recent posts are implying censorship by vote.

No ...I never implied a censorship by vote....I'm saying others might agree or disagree according to any particular situation.  This is an imaginary situation...there is no voting booth (at least not in most cases).  

[Rowan Amore]

7 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

You really have no ability to cope with nuance and uncertainty, do you?

 

6 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

You are being too literal.

And just as I predicted.  No argument so you resort to petty come backs.  My question was valid.  Who decides what is acceptable?

[Luna Bliss]

5 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

*tosses you a rope and hauls you out*

You should be happy I take the time to explain.  You never do that yet condemn me for my efforts.

[Luna Bliss]

4 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:

My question was valid.  Who decides what is acceptable?

Everybody does. Everybody is responsible. It's not only the artist who gets to decide what society should accept in their creations...at least not if they offer their creations to the public.

Edited September 30, 2021 by Luna Bliss

[Chris Corvinus]

Wait...someone actually complained about a virtual cig? Is it safe now?

[LittleMe Jewell]

3 minutes ago, Chris Nova said:

Wait...someone actually complained about a virtual cig?

Not about the cig itself, but about a picture of an avatar holding a cig --- because it might influence some airhead to smoke in RL.

[Rowan Amore]

3 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

Everybody does. Everybody is responsible. It's not only the artist who gets to decide what society should accept in their creations...at least not if they offer their creations to the public.

Ok, well since my smoking.picture is posted,.I've decided that you all are adults and should be able to decide for yourself whether it entices you to smoke.or not.  I did glamorize it just a tad.  Accept it,.don't accept it.  Love it or hate it, I honestly couldn't care less.  

[Luna Bliss]

2 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:

10 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

Everybody does. Everybody is responsible. It's not only the artist who gets to decide what society should accept in their creations...at least not if they offer their creations to the public.

Ok, well since my smoking.picture is posted,.I've decided that you all are adults and should be able to decide for yourself whether it entices you to smoke.or not.  I did glamorize it just a tad.  Accept it,.don't accept it.  Love it or hate it, I honestly couldn't care less.  

I'm happy you decided to glamorize a behavior that kills half a million in the U.S. each year.   You are truly free now    

[Chris Corvinus]

4 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:

Ok, well since my smoking.picture is posted,.I've decided that you all are adults and should be able to decide for yourself whether it entices you to smoke.or not.  I did glamorize it just a tad.  Accept it,.don't accept it.  Love it or hate it, I honestly couldn't care less.  

Rowen, how dare you post something like that. If only there was a way for me to prevent you posting such abhorrent visuals.

*puts on my tin foil thinking hat*

[Rowan Amore]

Finally!!  Did something to make you happy!..my life is complete as it has hinged on your approval.

[Chris Corvinus]

2 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

I'm happy you decided to glamorize a behavior that kills half a million in the U.S. each year.   You are truly free now    

I am requesting you stop complaining about something you literally have zero control over.

[Rowan Amore]

1 minute ago, Chris Nova said:

Rowen, how dare you post something like that. If only there was a way for me to prevent you posting such abhorrent visuals.

*puts on my tin foil thinking hat*

But did it make you want to smoke?

[Rat Luv]

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Edited September 30, 2021 by Rat Luv

[Chris Corvinus]

Just now, Rowan Amore said:

But did it make you want to smoke?

No. I already smoked after responding to Luna.

[Luna Bliss]

1 minute ago, Chris Nova said:

I am requesting you stop complaining about something you literally have zero control over.

It's actually those who are so obsessed with censorship and a perceived loss of freedom that are doing the complaining on this thread.

[Chris Corvinus]

5 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

I'm happy you decided to glamorize a behavior that kills half a million in the U.S. each year.   You are truly free now    

Then stop glamorizing stupidity.