Doc Carling Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Arquet said: Each to their own. No need for a sorry. That's my personal motto also. 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Daddy's Little Girl 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Carling Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 50 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Daddy's Little Girl This picture makes the subliminal connotation visible that the label "Daddy's girl" has for me: abuse, with and without consent. It expresses the threatening atmosphere perfectly in my opinion. Very good job. Well, perhaps it's especially the abuse part that attracts so many. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) On 9/25/2020 at 2:11 AM, Doc Carling said: This picture makes the subliminal connotation visible that the label "Daddy's girl" has for me: abuse, with and without consent. It expresses the threatening atmosphere perfectly in my opinion. Very good job. Well, perhaps it's especially the abuse part that attracts so many. Thank you for the kind words about the pic, Doc. It's a subject I've had in the back of mind for a few months, actually, but I've hesitated to realize it because I knew it was going to be difficult, technically and emotionally. This seemed an opportune moment, however. I am going to second something that @RowanMinxsaid to me earlier today with regard to your comment about people who are "attracted" to the abuse. Anyone who is attracted to abusive situations -- and they do exist -- is someone who is in serious need of psychological assistance. They suffer from low self-esteem, are punishing themselves, etc., and that's in no respect ever healthy. But that kind of self-destructive impulse has to be distinguished from BDSM and D/s, which is what I assume you are referring to: roleplaying "abuse." Because, as Rowan noted, if it is consensual -- and consent is a cornerstone of BDSM and D/s -- then it is, by definition, not "abuse." It is instead a "scene" or form of RP that mimics and represents real abuse, but that differs from it because consent has been given, and the action can be ended at any time by either of the participants. And that is definitely not the case of the real life abuse I've represented in my picture. In fact, the lack of consent actually defines that kind of behaviour. I don't have much of a problem, at one level, with a consensual relationship that involves someone playing an abusive parent or "sugardaddy" or whatever -- that's a transactional relationship between two consenting adults. I'd find that appalling, but the world is full of things that people should be allowed to do that I find appalling. I'll admit, however, that I am horrified by the language used to represent those kinds of relationships, because calling someone "Daddy's little girl," or "wicked daughter," or whatever doesn't merely trivialize the real horror and trauma that it is evoking; it, in a sense, celebrates it by suggesting that it is somehow "natural" and even, maybe, kinda fun. And every time someone plays an erotic little scenario built explicitly around a case of parental sexual abuse, they are making it just that little bit harder to address the real horror that I've tried to capture in my pic. Edited September 26, 2020 by Scylla Rhiadra 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdminGirl Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) On 9/25/2020 at 3:12 PM, Scylla Rhiadra said: Daddy's Little Girl That's a very powerful image. It conveys the fear and looming horror so effectively. Can I ask what viewer you used to take it? It's so beautifully sharp. Edited September 26, 2020 by AdminGirl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Carling Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Thank you for the kind words about the pic, Doc. It's a subject I've had in the back of mind for a few months, actually, but I've hesitated to realize it because I knew it was going to be difficult, technically and emotionally. This seemed an opportune moment, however. I agree. It was probably the right moment. And I'm glad that my thread inspired you. 😊 No, I'm not referring to roleplay. When I translate correctly, you are focussing on physical violence. But there is also a more subtle kind of abuse. Abuse that happens with the consent of the victim. Because consent is not equal consent. I believe someone can be abused without that she/he even is aware of that. What about what's so nicely called "The Art of seduction"? Is is legit to use "sweet" lies and false promises to achieve someones consent? Or to use a persons naivity for your own good? Don't belong such cases of abuse to be damned too?  Edited September 26, 2020 by Doc Carling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Wow. This is kind of interesting. My response to the last apparently has to be "approved by a moderator" before being posted. I've never seen that before. Weird that a post about the importance of consent gets filtered, but one with a pic showing a minor in lingerie being abused by her father doesn't. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Doc Carling said: But there is also a more subtle kind of abuse. Abuse that happens with the consent of the victim. Because consent is not equal consent. I believe someone can be abused without that she/he even is aware of that. WTF is wrong with you! If the person is unaware then they can not consent. The more you say, the worse you look. I'm almost speechless in regards to your ignorance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMe Jewell Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Wow. This is kind of interesting. My response to the last apparently has to be "approved by a moderator" before being posted. I've never seen that before. Weird that a post about the importance of consent gets filtered, but one with a pic showing a minor in lingerie being abused by her father doesn't. Maybe they have a new set of words that don't trigger being **** out, but that does cause the software to want someone to review the context of the word(s) usage? That is all I can think of, anyway. Edited September 26, 2020 by LittleMe Jewell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Just now, LittleMe Jewell said: Maybe they have a new set of words that don't trigger being **** out, but that does cause the software to want to review the context of the word(s) usage? That is all I can think of, anyway. No idea. It must be the combination of words, because there's not a "dirty" word in the post. I get that this is an algorithm at work, and not a real person. Also, of course, algorithms catch text; they're not nearly so good at images. So we'll see what happens on Monday, I guess. It's just bizarrely ironic that a post citing a RL BDSM organization on the absolute necessity of real consent (and what that means) gets moderated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Doc Carling said: No, I'm not referring to roleplay. So his 'daddy's little girl' has nothing to do with the dd/bg aspect of BDSM and everything to do with familiar abuse as I suspected from the beginning which only makes his pictures all the more disturbing.   1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Carling Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Wow. This is kind of interesting. My response to the last apparently has to be "approved by a moderator" before being posted. I've never seen that before. Weird that a post about the importance of consent gets filtered, but one with a pic showing a minor in lingerie being abused by her father doesn't. I believe I know why. This thread turned into a direction that is probably far off topic for this forum. Well, I won't post further pictures. For me this thread is closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 38 minutes ago, Doc Carling said: I believe I know why. This thread turned into a direction that is probably far off topic for this forum. Well, I won't post further pictures. For me this thread is closed. I don't think so. This is an algorithm, not a direct intervention by a mod. They may well decide, however, that they don't like how this thread is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 10 hours ago, AdminGirl said: That's a very powerful image. It conveys the fear and looming horror so effectively. Can I ask what viewer you used to take it? It's so beautifully sharp. Thank you! I used Black Dragon for this. It's what I use for about 90% of my pics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Carling Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: I don't think so. This is an algorithm, not a direct intervention by a mod. They may well decide, however, that they don't like how this thread is going. If yes, I wouldn't be surprised. See below. I will consider that a little bit more, if I post further images in this forum. Not that I see my work as pornographic. lol Anyway, perhaps other people should read the TOS as well - the part about the language and speech. This isn't meant to you. I enjoyed our discourse. Acording Communty TOS forbidden: "Vulgarity, Profanity, and Sexually Explicit Content: No name calling, expletives, or any language that is offensive, pornographic, or sexually explicit. Profanity, hate speech, or threats of violence are not permissible." Edited September 26, 2020 by Doc Carling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaerolleClaudel Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 On 9/24/2020 at 12:03 AM, Madelaine McMasters said: Had I not grown up around Vargas Girls I don't recall exactly how I got them, it has been a long time, but somehow I acquired a deck of cards with Vargas Girls. I spent a lot of time furtively staring at a particular few of them, sighing and swooning, while slowly shaking my head and breathing out, "Oh..my.god..." Interestingly, at the same time I was listening to Woman Power singers and was all about feminism. So I did feel a bit conflicted and guilty. What can I say, I am a deeply flawed person, who never can quite meet her ideals (or mostly even get with the distance to Saturn of them). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madelaine McMasters Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 hour ago, CaerolleClaudel said: I don't recall exactly how I got them, it has been a long time, but somehow I acquired a deck of cards with Vargas Girls. I spent a lot of time furtively staring at a particular few of them, sighing and swooning, while slowly shaking my head and breathing out, "Oh..my.god..." Interestingly, at the same time I was listening to Woman Power singers and was all about feminism. So I did feel a bit conflicted and guilty. What can I say, I am a deeply flawed person, who never can quite meet her ideals (or mostly even get with the distance to Saturn of them). Oh, I understand the conflicted business. I'm on the D side of D/s and there isn't a day I don't feel some discomfort over that, but never enough to drown out the "Oh..my.god..." I have, fortunately, discovered I can navigate this. I do draw some lines in the sand. I dislike Doc's "Daddy's Girl" imagery. It skates far too close to what Scylla depicted in her "Daddy's Little Girl" image. I am a Daddy's Girl through and through and I won't let erotic asshattery ruin my image of it... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaerolleClaudel Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Madelaine McMasters said: Oh, I understand the conflicted business. I'm on the D side of D/s and there isn't a day I don't feel some discomfort over that, but never enough to drown out the "Oh..my.god..." I have, fortunately, discovered I can navigate this. I do draw some lines in the sand. I dislike Doc's "Daddy's Girl" imagery. It skates far too close to what Scylla depicted in her "Daddy's Little Girl" image. I am a Daddy's Girl through and through and I won't let erotic asshattery ruin my image of it... OMG you even got the butt crack thing going on! lolol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madelaine McMasters Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, CaerolleClaudel said: OMG you even got the butt crack thing going on! lolol I do! Like my father, I have more crack than butt. Edited September 27, 2020 by Madelaine McMasters 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Madelaine McMasters said: Oh, I understand the conflicted business. I'm on the D side of D/s and there isn't a day I don't feel some discomfort over that, but never enough to drown out the "Oh..my.god..." I have, fortunately, discovered I can navigate this. I do draw some lines in the sand. I dislike Doc's "Daddy's Girl" imagery. It skates far too close to what Scylla depicted in her "Daddy's Little Girl" image. I am a Daddy's Girl through and through and I won't let erotic asshattery ruin my image of it... Cutest pic ever! I was one too. We butted heads as I got older but I'll always remember more those times like yours above where we just hung out, usually watching John Wayne movies on a Saturday afternoon. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Carling Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) Some might wonder why I appearently didn't photograph guys. Well, believe me I tried hard to find male models. The answers I got where "oh, yes, but later". Or "at the moment I don't have time. We stay in touch." And so on. The few which applied did it in hope for free sex with my female models. Anyway, same with this thread. When I count correctly, except mine there is no single reply of a male. Amazing. Edited September 27, 2020 by Doc Carling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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