Selene Gregoire

It could be added. I can see it now... New Bug Feature Coming Soon! LL yanked the ability to see what clients others were using many years ago* because some jack@$$es kept hassling people over... of all things... the client/viewer they were using. *8-10 years, somewhere around there. Not sure and I can't be arsed to go hunt it down this late at night. It's pushing midnight here.

Sounds like something that would happen in The Sims 1/2/3/4.

Oh my god! Get out of my head! Oh wait. This is Maddy's head.

Now you're grabbing at straws just for the sake of arguing. I grew up around someone like that. I'm not interested in playing.

Grits. With lots of sweet, creamy, unsalted butter. Real butter, not margarine.

Oh FFS Drake, No one has said it is! I certainly haven't.

I quoted ONE person. The same person and the same post in both of the first two quotes. The one person I did NOT quote was Fiona.

I told you guys in the first page or two that it was a trap. Did anyone listen to me? No. Even I didn't listen to me. So... there you go. 💨

So you're saying that because the law doesn't specifically mention Second Life and SL gachas, both are not subject to that law? That's an interpretation/determination that only the court(s) can make. The court's decision won't be based on your interpretation of the law. That's not how it works. But you know that.

Can you back that statement up with legal documentation?

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/faq.aspx#2 Note that the first quote says "virtually all" and not "all". That means that not all video games or apps that are sold are rated by the ESRB.

Bots are supposed to be registered with LL in an effort to keep a lid on them sucking up resources needed by people driven avatars and boosting traffic. They are not meant to be used like a normal account. Alts are meant to be used as intended by LL (people driven) and are not required to be registered as bots. Or you can just read this: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Bot_policy

You're reading what I said wrong. Granted, I should have left "by law" off the end of that sentence. It's a habit I've been trying to break. ETA: Read through the links I posted earlier. That should tell you why I've said the things I have.

The lion and I would both like to know... where's the beef?

Even the skin makers of yore that included notecards with windlight settings sometimes got it wrong. Sometimes hilariously, sometimes hideously.

You're reading a bit too much into my words there. I made (and make) no claim of any law that makes that distinction. There may not be any law in any country at present that does but that does not mean it won't happen in the future. The past is full of such instances where laws have been ratified and then later amended. I don't know of any country where this hasn't happened.

As a long time SL consumer, there is something I need to get off my chest and this is directed mainly at the content creators and any of them who might want a new customer. I can live with no transfer because I do understand the reasoning and logic behind it. The only gripe I have about it is not being able to share an item with an alt. It isn't something I would make a habit of doing (that's just me) but there are times when a very lovely outfit would look just as well (if not better) on one of my alts and I just can't afford to buy another one or two. Real money gets tighter with each passing year. I can sort of live with no modify. I do understand that some things, like a specialized script, shouldn't be altered. On the other hand, there are those of us who are proficient enough in such things. Which leads me to... no copy. The one thing I absolutely refuse to do is pay for an item that is no copy. If the item is mod it makes zero sense for it to be no copy. It makes zero sense when something happens on LL's end and you lose that item and are either stuck with paying for another one, having to hunt down a re-delivery kiosk or give it up to being lost in the ether. This is just me, sticking to my "buy only those things which are copy/mod/no trans or full perms". I've come a long way from "make all the things NO PERMS!" as I believed, 14 years ago, was only right and proper.

I know the feeling. While my native language isn't dead, it is headed that way.

The point is, whether they are paid for directly with real money or indirectly by purchasing with ingame currency (which is paid for with real money), has no bearing on whether or not SL gachas are considered lootboxes by law.

Electrical engineers do seem to have more fun.

Just going to leave these here: https://medium.com/@Rathgrith027_SL/loot-box-legislation-the-grave-concern-for-second-lifes-economy-d41a0dae9ff0 https://www.pcgamer.com/hackers-are-stealing-second-lifes-player-made-lootboxes-and-selling-them-for-profit/ https://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2018/01/pc-gamer-lootbox-second-life-linden-lab-battlefront.html https://www.tomsguide.com/us/what-are-loot-boxes-microtransactions,news-26161.html

That isn't how it works in all MMOs. Certainly not how it works in STO.

Mechanical or civil?

It changed more than 50 years ago. Before I was even born. Do keep up.