Selene Gregoire

The bolded parts. So much the bolded parts.

I don't do mornings either. Which is why my interview isn't until this afternoon. Being in the PNW does have the advantage of afternoons being later than most everyone else's.

lol You do and I will. That is if I don't forget. I have to try to sleep between now and then. And thank you!

My sanity? Or what's left of it. I remember how verbose you are. lol You probably won't remember me though. I've been a resident since 2004, but, this is the longest I've ever been gone. Most of the people I knew left before I did so I'll be starting over as far as friends go. Is there a such thing as a n00b oldbie? If not, there just might be starting tomorrow.

lol Well, yes, sort of on the yes or no, but, I'll take what I can get. Thanks. You've almost talked me into it. Almost. Maybe tomorrow after the job interview.

Serious question. Was it worth it for you to log back in after being gone that long? I've been gone close to that and have been debating logging in again for about a year now.

You mean I've been doing it wrong all these years?

Danny, I was speaking of the Avatar Physics as they are in Phoenix and Firestorm. Judging by the number of people who ask for help with it in the support group (which is the quickest way to get help with most issues rather than filing a JIRA) there aren't that many who are having a major issue with it. No, it's not perfect (what is really?) but it is far better now than it was 2 years ago or even as far back as *cough*Emerald*cough*. Scroll to the bottom of this page http://wiki.phoenixviewer.com/firestorm_avatar_physics and you will see the known issues and some known workarounds for Firestorm. Granted, they are not fixes per se (as in coding), but they are better than nothing and the devs are working (or were in light of the new TPV policy) on fixes for the next release. For Phoenix, http://wiki.phoenixviewer.com/phoenix_avatar_physics and there is a link at the bottom to a PH JIRA. As I have said, the information is out there. You just have to look for it. P.S. Yes LL does fix quite a few issues all the time. The sad thing is most of the ones that are fixed are, as you said, those posted by Lindens and not the "general population". That does not hold true for PH/FS. The support team and the devs do not post the vast majority of the JIRAs. Although they do occasionally when they have an issue they need help with . I admit I spend most of my time either in the support group or trying to get the forum updated after a long absence but I do keep up with what is going on. I have to.

*tries to stop giggling long enough to make a reply* I'm not concerned about it. I countered the misinformation and provided the links so she could go look up the information for herself. *still giggling* I'm laughing because I don't use what is now called Avatar Physics. Never have and seriously doubt I ever will. And just fyi, it does seem to be working quite well for the majority of those who use it. And yes it does make one wonder (every great once in a blue moon) out of the hundreds of JIRAs posted on LL's JIRA in a month's time just how many have actually been resolved/fixed and how many were closed because LL has no intention of "fixing" them. Anyway, I believe the point(s) have been made so I think I will wander off and find something better to do. Like helping people get thier issues fixed.

What part of "I am not defending either JIRA" did you not understand? You want to know what the devs are doing/have done? Go ask them. Go read the website. http://www.phoenixviewer.com/ Or how about the link for the change logs: http://wiki.phoenixviewer.com/firestorm_change_log I'll even give you the link with the SL names of the developers with the Project contact email addresses: http://www.phoenixviewer.com/contact.php Get the information straight from the horse's mouth. It's all there on the website and what isn't there you can ask the devs. ETA: I said absolutely nothing about billing supprt. I've been in SL for 7 years and I do know how things work.

Yes, it can. I never said it could not be. The point you are missing is that more people do respond to the LL JIRAs because LL is the owner of SL, not the Phoenix/Firestorm team. Linden Lab is in control of the grid. The PH/FS team has zero control over the grid. Another point you are missing is that quite often the issue gets resolved in the support group so the person doesn't bother going back the to the JIRA to say "Hey it's fixed. You can close this now." And no the team members have no way of knowing if a JIRA has been filed or not unless the person has told them there is one (and provided a link to said JIRA) or unless the team member spends time searching for the JIRA to close it. Time which is better spent helping people. Basic accounts get zero support from LL. The Phoenix/Firestorm team quite often fills that enormous gap. Just because a group of people don't pay a monthly fee is no reason not to provide support. Basic accounts buy Ls to pay for things, they buy Ls to pay tier for thier rented sims or parcels. And who gets that money in the end? LL of course. So saying that not paying a monthly fee is reason enough to not provide support is nothing more than a lame excuse. I'm not defending either JIRA so much as I am pointing out the differences. One really can not be compared to the other. Phoenix/Firestorm members volunteer their time to help others because that is what they want to do. They volunteer out of the kindness in thier hearts. They do not get paid like the LL employees do. Frankly, (and quite bluntly) comparing the two JIRAs is comparing apples with oranges. There is no comparison.

It would help a great deal if the people who opened those Firestorm JIRAs would ever actually go back and look at them and respond to them. You might be very surprised at how many JIRAs are posted that have been responded to by support team members and/or the devs that just sit there waiting for the person with the issue to let them know if the issue has been fixed or even if the issue still exists. Rather difficult to solve an issue when you get zero feedback from the person experiencing the issue. Some of the JIRAs have been sitting there waiting for a response from the OP for weeks and even months before it is finally closed. Resolving JIRA issues is two way communication and when the communication only occurs on one end there is nothing to be done. Reminders do get sent. We can't force people to respond.

I stopped going to the beta grid 2005/6, nor do I have any desire to be one of LL's guinea pigs. I've been using the temp image upload since I started using Emerald years ago. Although, I have to admit the idea of all content creators going to the beta grid to work and only logging into the main grid to update vendors etc is quite amusing. I wonder how much that would reduce the number of people on the main grid on a daily basis. :matte-motes-big-grin-wink:

Arwen, temp image upload has been around since Emerald days and it is just now on the beta grid? There is something horribly wrong with that picture. Also, read that last section of the policy again: "2.k : You must not provide any feature that alters the shared experience of the virtual world in any way not provided by or accessible to users of the latest released Linden Lab viewer." It is not currently on the main grid and therefore is not available to everyone using the latest LL viewer. Thus, it is one of the features that will be broken in TPVs, unless LL relents and allows it to remain. I just don't see LL doing that in light of everything else.

Copybot viewers can display any TPV viewer tag they want to use if they know what they are doing. Up to and including an LL viewer tag.

I'm so angry right now I have no words to describe how angry I am. What is LL's goal with breaking temp image uploads? Are they trying to push those of us who are on fixed, limited or low/no incomes out of SL and leave it only for those who have money? You are taking away every feature I use a TPV for and have remained in SL for 7 years for. There is no reason whatsoever these features can not be added to the LL viewer. Just as I was starting to have a little faith in Rodvik and LL, you have to go and pull this. I'm not saying people don't have a right to thier privacy and others should respect people's privacy. But there is a such thing as going too far and that is precisely what LL is doing. Going too far.

The announcement was supposed to have occured at the end of October. It hasn't happened yet so I won't be holding my breath.

The JLU and their kind were not wanted or needed in 2004/5/6 (2006 is when the JLU formed). The JLU and their kind are not wanted or needed now. I have never been banned, suspended or even received a warning in the 7 years I have been in SL. They have no reason to have any of my RL information. I did not give them any of my information. They did not, do not, and never will have my expressed permission to obtain my information or be in possession of it, or retain it.. They did not inform me of their information practices before any information was collected. They do not have any information practices in place or publicly available. They did not inform me of the nature of the data collected and the means by which it was collected. They did not provide me with the identification of any potential recipients of the data. They did not provide me with any options to control how my data is used. They do not have a consent process in place. They did not provide me with the ability to view the data collected, or to verify and contest its accuracy. They have not kept the data secure. Groups such as JLU, **PD**, Gridwatch etc. have no place in SL. I am sure that now I have finally spoken up about it I will be added to their database as a griefer just as they have done to countless others who are not and never have been griefers. When a group adds someone to a "griefer database" as a griefer for posting a picture on a non SL site not only have they taken it too far, they are out of control.

Had you banned certain people you would have also banned me, an innocent person. I know for a fact that there were accounts listed as my alts that were NOT mine. If you don't care that you ban innocent people that says a lot about you.

LL has always had the legal right to remove content from the grid and thier servers at any time without any explaination or reason and without compensation.

To put it quite simply I do not even allow the use of security orbs much less anything like redzone. If a tenant has a problem and it warrants it I have a "special" role set up to grant them eject and ban rights. So far in the past 2 years I have needed to grant only one person those rights.

There are only two things that will make the use of display names acceptable to me. One is to NOT allow the User Name to be hidden. It MUST be visible (unless it is turned off under Preferences> General> Hide My Name on MY Screen). Hiding your own tags from yourself is not the issue. Hiding it from others is. If you have nothing to hide then you won't mind if others can see your User Name.The other is the format in which things are displayed on the "tag". Such as: Display Name Group Tag User Name I don't have a problem with turning off your own tag or turning off group tags but display names and user names should be visible to everyone at all times. It's fine if you disagree with me just don't expect me to argue my point/opinion with you. It's not going to happen. Here or in world.