Solar Legion

If you mean the move to AWS, quite too late for that. They'd have to shell out the expense to buy all new hardware - the old servers were shredded. Like it or not, there is no undoing it.

The JIRA is for running ideas past Linden Lab Many of the ideas I have in general have been covered by others over the years already and I am frankly not interested in restating them What ideas remain are distasteful to many of the types that post here or will simply never happen (No really, they won't) The only ideas I "scorn" are those that - frankly and in my own opinion - should not have made it to text, some of which were implemented anyway So, anything else you'd like to swing and miss over or are you done? Meh, doesn't matter anyway.

Again, that's nice. They're all based on Second Life with their own deviations in code. Some major and others not so much. That is not looking outside oneself. That is examining mutations. Either way, looking at them is irrelevant as their systems are not likely to match up one to one with the systems Linden Lab put into place. Looking to them for future ideas? Yep, sure. That is it. There is no reason to look to/at them for any sort of design choice/reference.

That's nice. We have no idea if it set up that way at present or if it is even something that can be set up as opposed to designed from the very beginning. Put another way: What other grids have done is irrelevant.

Yes, and unless some bit of information is missing somewhere the regions are either up and running or suspended/hibernating. Put simply, you'd not be able to just hibernate the bits that load in for avatars and not the bits that run the scripts. The regions - last I checked - are all or nothing.

Congrats, you've just broken any script that is running on the region that has to communicate with any item of almost any kind elsewhere on the grid.

Oh how lovely .... 2FA had better not break the ability to use TPVs.

I am not at all saying "never" I am simply saying that the probability is extremely low. That's it. Can it happen? Not wholly out of the question. Will it (ever) happen? Answer is above. If it ever does, the backlash would make what they're seeing now look like a cooling summer breeze.

A probability that is rather close to zero.

Heh, I was being somewhat cheeky and broadening the scope to all Ads, not just ones for Second Life related products.

Linden Lab sold off Sansar partially because it was a time/effort sink that they simply could not afford any longer. It is debatable as to if they could have ever afforded it to begin with.

"When does an advert become deceptive?" For many/most modern Ads: Is it an Ad? It is deceptive in some way.

Why is it that almost every time some fee change (among others) is made, someone always has to chime in with the absolutely ludicrous idea that Linden Lab will do away with the free Basic accounts .... They have had ample time and opportunity to do so and simply have not. They're here to stay and have been since June 6th, 2006. Do kindly stop trying to cause a panic.

That ship sailed some time ago. While Valve is a fair bit more lenient these days where Adult Content is concerned, Second Life does not need to be on Steam. Not directly at any rate. Discord allows for the custom addition of programs and such for display as a Status and can make use of other data (Rich Presence I believe it is called) on top of this. Knock that "benefit" off of the list. Steam allows you to add "Non-Steam Games" to your Library for launch through their system - this will show up in your Status in their system. There's another "benefit" to knock off of the list. The default Linden Lab Viewer already does Automatic Updates and many TPVs opted against doing such thanks to backlash on that process (in part). This is not even taking into consideration the headache that TPVs would add into the mix for that particular system. Another "benefit" gone. 0 for 3 so far on that. As far as appealing to the "broader gaming community" ... No. Just no. There's been enough problems in the past with that and do face it: Any Steam entry would be absolutely flooded with negative reviews from people who could not be bothered to do much more than load in, spend four hours mucking around and then leave/uninstall.

No. "You May Need This Too" is the same as Amazon's additional item suggestions (and similar bits through other sites). They're looking to sell you an extra item or suggesting an item often purchased at the same time.

Sansar is - sadly - only a small part of the greater problem and came late to the party.

Yet you seem to deny that what we have now is something they could not have seen coming until it was well too late. An assumption on your art is that they just sat back and did nothing whatsoever - an assumption that it is frankly not my job to dissuade or correct beyond an incredibly basic refutation/rebuttal. Most especially since it serves no purpose whatsoever in as far as suggestions/spitballing on future actions. You are free to feel how you like as far as the history goes. It does not change that history or the realities of it. Focus on where to go from here.

I have already made my suggestions. Are you quite done asking loaded questions? Done reacting to what you believe I have said as opposed to what is in direct text in front of you? I will make it very clear: What we should be doing is suggesting/spitballing steps forward. Beginning and end.

I have covered this already. It was partially explained by others already as well. Outside of historical data, understanding how we got to where we are and feasible future steps, knowledge of the system and its design and intended purpose has no other relevance and thus no user is going to know unless they go looking or are inclined to examine the history of Second Life (among other things). Linden Lab's initial failure was in not providing proper documentation or warnings concerning the system and how it was integrated. The end users initial failure was in making assumptions in how the system worked. By the time it became clear that the system was not being (or going to be) used for the original purposes, it was too late to change the existing system. Further at that time there was no indication that the way it was being used would cause the problems we see today (so no, they did not know - they assumed it could/would scale). That came much later and by that time the earlier mentioned gunshy attitude had set in. Some projects were still pushed through, most of which were ones that were believed would not generate nearly as much backlash as they would see - should something break and need fixing - as they'd see if they tackled such an integrated system. At least one example that stands out in terms of backlash that fostered their approach was when they upgraded the physics engine in 2007/08. Quite a great deal of content was broken by that upgrade and yet that was nowhere near as bad as it could get if something had gone wrong. Honestly to understand where I am coming from, you'd have to have experienced some of this directly or done a bit of digging around. Sadly for some of it .... data has been quite lost over time. In some cases never properly recorded either. I will reiterate something from a more recent post of mine: I am in no way arguing against the notion that something should have been done sooner. I am explaining part of why something was not done sooner.

The ship for that sailed a very long time ago and the backlash if they had gone ahead and applied any sort of limitation to the system would have made what we have seen in recent years absolutely pale in comparison. Something I already covered earlier.

Except that each and every response you have had has been to refuse any notion whatsoever that the end users have had any hand whatsoever in this. That all blame lies with the company and development team. That is not the reality - at all. I will not discuss/argue that - which is exactly what the quoted bits are saying. What I am open to discuss is the degree to which such is the case. There is a difference. ETA: As a preface, the degree of blame the end users have is not zero. That really is something on which I will not budge one whit as it is simple reality.

There's noting to discuss/argue with you, you absolutely refuse to listen. At all.

Funnily enough it did not take much for another poster to understand. Thank you @Gabriele Graves. What quite a few do not seem to grasp (or understand) is that the entire Group System is intrinsically tied into the land/parcel management system. This seems to be something that a few have great difficulty wrapping their heads around. As does the notion that there could ever have been a point of no return in the development and deployment of Groups. That point was reached very quickly after the introduction of Groups and the Group Chat system. Point blank: The End Users are not without blame. Period. As far as I am concerned here, there isn't a single argument that can be made otherwise. As for the amount of time it has been this way and the possibility of developing a new system or fixing the existing one in that time ... I've been around long enough at this point to know that Linden Lab has gotten incredibly gunshy over the years when it comes to making changes to such a base level system (and Groups are such, became such quite quickly). The backlash they have gotten .... It often makes the backlash they get now for these issues look tame by comparison. At this point they'd be much better off creating a secondary group system that is not tied into the Land/Parcel Management system and encouraging Store (Sales/Announcements), Support, Social and all other non Land/Parcel Management related Groups to migrate over. I will finish this off with the following: If you are still convinced that the existing system can be reworked/fixed easily, there is no point whatsoever in responding (to me) - especially if your entire basis for such an assumption/thought process comes from outside of Second Life. The systems being used do not operate the way they do under other services and some have cross links that are utterly unexpected/baffling. I am all for solving the issue. I am not going to pretend it is a simple one nor am I going to pretend that blame is solely on the company here.

Heh, I've taken to using the Regalia body for some of my 'cuter' looks and only recently settled on a 'normal' outfit setup. Outfit is 'similar' to one I was wearing for an image I posted in a much different thread, snapshot taken at my home and cropped.

Being a bit petty on this one and I know it isn't gonna change but ... The entire Mac/PC BS. No. That Mac/MacBook is still a Personal Computer/laptop. Microsoft/Windows is not "PC" .... it is an Operating system that was allowed to become synonymous (through a marketing campaign) with Personal Computers. It gets even more annoying when you're not on a "mainstream" OS. Stop conflating the Operating System with the type of computer.