HarrisonMcKenzie

Then be insulted. Linden Labs is making a separate product for a separate market, made up of a separate customer base. If Microsoft started developing server-end management software for streaming data (not that they haven't already), why would they invite Office 365 customers in on the pre-apha process? Sansar isn't SL 2, and getting mad about it isn't going to change that. You personally weren't contacted to take part because you probably aren't the target market for the development. Yes, I would like to a an SL that runs on a modern computer properly instead of being clumsy and unrefined. I would love a new SL whose uploading process better aligns with consumer and industry technologies instead of Leningrad heavily on the less professional and less standard Blender. I would love an SL that looks like it was made after the release of Toy Story 1. But that's not in the cards right now. So instead of chapping my ass over it, I let it go and moved on. If Sansar does something cool for me, great. If not, I won't be offended.

Yes! Other kid avis! The only hangup for me is that I live on the wrong side of the world from you. When are you usually in world?

Nyisis Narcissus wrote: But why aren't users utilizing these tools to create a thriving and viable SL. All I'm asking is, What can users do revitalize SL? I'm putting together a variety of ideas that blend in world mechanics with roleplaying and real world learning and skills. I have already run small events that do this, and they seem to have been well received. I've also contacted shop owners with words of encouragement to bring out some new products and talked in groups I am in about being more active. Lastly, I am trying to come up with a model for creating viable and more affordable roleplaying spaces for others to use without needing to rent a sim for hundreds of dollars a month. Your move.

Shannon Danick wrote: A few years ago, I was one of the ones doing extremely well. Enough to afford a few new laptops a month, if I so wanted. But in the past 2 years, sales dropped off. I blame Mesh. Why? Because I am just not skilled enough nor have enough time and patience to sit on Blender all day and all night. Many want Mesh clothing now...not old school system clothing. So, I've been standing on my last leg of holding on for a year now. And I'm about to throw the towel in after 7 years. Sorry, but watch me play the world's primiest violin. There are plenty of mesh builders who release kits that onlt need to be textured. If you are that good of an artist that you were making around $10 000 a month selling system clothes or prim items, you could easily get by texturing full perm mesh made by others. And before you sneeze at that, consider that almost the entire kid avi market is fueled by about 4 actual builders. And it's a pretty big market. So sorry, mesh didn't kill your business; laziness did.

I have a small item I'd like to share. It's an open book with a notecard book inside of it. I'd like the book to trigger an animation of pose so that the avatar is holding it up and looks like they are reading the book. There are a variety animations available on MP, but most are not full perm. And the full perm ones that I can find are all pretty expensive. While a looping animation adds to the atmosphere of the item, a simple 1 frame pose would be fine, since I'm planning on distributing the book at a low or zero cost (and thus won't make back the cost of an expensive the animation). Any takers, or can anyone point me to something? Thanks.

Good point, Kelli. You need to make sure you have rez permissions in the area (sandboxes and any land you have work, as do some other areas). Add to that that you can't always rez an object onto mesh (like the floor of your mesh house or a nice looking landscape), and you can have some headaches. If you do try to rez a no-copy item into mesh, just relog and it will be back in your inventory (maybe in the lost and found/returned items folder).

Yeah, deleing your inventory and clearing the trash would have that effect. I think the only thing you can do is open a support ticket. Linden Labs might be able to undelete everything. But they may not be able to, so don't get your hopes up.

I have joined the in-world group. Unfortunately, the group is basically non-funcitoning. I can't open a chat, I can't search for an admin or CSR, and I haven't have a chat open yet. EDIT: I was able to get in touch with someone in world. Sadly, the answer for dogs is no.

Not a Kiwi, but I live in the same pet if the world, and I'm also looking for friends who I can see online more often. If you're cool hanging out with a kid avatar (I do have a bunch of adult friends, so I'm good with it), drop me a line.

I don't feel that they necessarily are. A lack of physical contact and presence, mixed with missing communicative cues and carefully tailored conversations make it difficult to connect with people online to the same depth. That doesn't mean I don't care for my friends or RP family. I get upset when they've had a hard day or are having trouble. But I also almost cried during Toy Story 3 over the damaged relationships, trust issues, and impending doom. Rather, I would say that such relationships are merely different rather than weaker/stronger or good/bad.

So what would this look like in SL? I'm a bit confused about what you are getting at. Are you interested in more religious content in SL? Do you want to see more natural disasters? Are you talking about whatever Sansar is or isn't?

I got a Bio Breedable puppy for Christmas, and I'd like to do more with her. I know that I can rez her in my front yard and run around, but I thought it'd be great if I could take her for walks in other sims. I know about the switching sims issue (that you should pick up and re rez them), bit what if you don't have rezzing rights in a given area? Can you attached them and have them run at your side? Or is my dog stuck at home?

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. You were bothering people and were reported to the sim owners for it. That you were drunk doesn't matter, nor does it matter if logs were shared; enough people complaining and you don't need logs to prove it. Walk away and own your actions. If you were bothering people and being obnoxious, you really aren't in a position to be looking down on people over a technicality.

Innula Zenovka wrote: If you don't like Adult content, it's perfectly easy to avoid it. By default, your viewer settings are to show you G and M content only. I would beg to differ. There is a phenominal amount of adult content in the M category of the Marketplace, and I've TPed places where the store next door sells dick pouches, BDSM gear, and sex beds, despite being on an M sim. Staying to G and M simply doesn't filter out adult or offensive content. That really is what the issue here is. It's too easy to see SL as some slimey orgy pit and ignore what else it can be. Any coverage on YouTube is about trolling people and griefing, which doesn't show that SL can be used for therepy, to connect old and separated friends, learn new skills, appreciate art, and any number of other non-orgy related activities. Does that mean SL should be made kid friendly? No. Does it mean that there should be chances to show off the good sides of SL? Absolutely. Does that mean SL players will be able to stream on Twitch? No, because that content can't be controlled, and everyone playing SL knows that they will stumble into something inappropriate.

I imagine it's the potential for adult rating. I did film ratings for a few years, and we always had to rate at the highest content to avoid trouble.

What is there to do there (for a given location)? Is it a passive place with various sit-animated piece of furniture? Is it the scene of live events? Is it meant as a place to roleplay? Is it an art piece? A passive hangout area is fine, but if it's just another place to stand around and IM with your friends, I wouldn't appreciate it as much. If it's an event venue but there are no events taking place or events of interest, I'm not going to want to spend time there. If it's a roleplay area but no one is there or it is not condusive to roleplaying for whatever reason, I might just find somewhere else. If it's an art piece or an educational area like a museum, that might be really cool, but what would bring me back again after I've seen it. You want to think about why people are coming, what there is to do, and why they should return.

It's a rather odd topic. On the one side, works should be left alone and be allowed to stand for themselves. To go in and alter a work because you can (or think you can) do a better job is a bit disrepectful to history. On the other hand though, what you've done is help breathe life into older areas. It also shows that new work can be faithful to the original while being upkept. This is done all over Japan, where historical buidlings are rebuilt and restored ever generation or so in order to keep that part of history alive. On the third hand, while it's cool to see old SL, it can be a little laughably bad. Seeing 10 year old structures hang around might give someone the wrong impression of SL and can kind of be an eyesore. I think that the original builds have a place, but I'm not sure if that's in a living sim. I went to a car show a little while back that showed off tons of old vehicles through the ages of SL. Something like this is a great way to preserve and honor the past while letting the future come.

Aislin Ceawlin wrote: My only thought on this is that, maybe, it will spark a little (if only short lived) new interest in SL...we'll see. Until you realize that the writer calls it rubbish, says that it never caught on, and the passage reads like an obituary.

First off, there is nothing perverted about playing a kid. The only people that have an issue with it are stupid grognards or those who use SL for cybersex. If you play a kid, own it and have fun. When it comes to making a kid, there are basically two types. First you have Toddledoo, or TD. This is a mesh (externally 3d modeled) avatar that replaces your normal avatar. TD kids need special clothes that are rigged to fit their smaller body, since the scales for a normal body only go down so far. The second kind is a standard body. This plays within normal SL scales and is thus easier (in many ways, at least) to find clothes for. Whether you are sticking with a "standard kid" shape or a mesh body for older kids, the effect is the same. When it comes to standard bodies, you can only get so short and thus so young. SL really doesn't handle the scale extremes well, and I've found that about the youngest you can get is 8ish. From there, anything is possible; elementary aged kids, preteens, teens, and ever shape and size in between. The trick here is that you need to find or make a shape that has the right proportions. Sadly, a lot of people in SL make their avatar with really grotesque proportions (not just kids), and may shapes I've seen have tiny T-Rex arms. You also need a female shape (not hard), regardless of your gender, since males simply don't scale down that well. Making a kid, you'll want to look at some anatomy drawings. Body proportions, facial structure, that sort of thing. Depending on their age, kids have big eyes, heads that look large for their body (since the skull only grows so much), short limbs, and big hands and feet. I have some shapes I've been working on for a few older kid ages (I think up to about age 12) based on some proportion charts I found. I'd be happy to send them to you if you'd like. From there, it's about clothes. Vicarious Youth has a lot of freebies available, and more if you join the VIP group (VY also has a new avatar starter kit). Soken Mesh (SKM) also has a bunch of freebies available. There are a lot of other great stores too. The biggest issues here are that there is far more stuff for TD than standard kids and far more for girly girls than boys (if that's a concern for you), and that sometimes TD and standard kid aren't always well marked. I've bought a few TD shirts and have been mighty angry, though many sellers include kid and TD in the same sale. Feel free to message me if you'd like any more help. I do live in Asia though, so I might not ever be online. Also, if you can, please send me a notecard (since my messages get capped quickly and I miss things) or send me a PM over these forums.

I think you have to make/use an animation that doesn't have any other bone movements. I'm probably wrong, but I've read something about only the animated bones being used.

God yes. I hate navigating MP for clothes, since 95% of it is for babies and girls (two things which I am not). It's also simply a dump category that is generally hard to naivgate, compared to the better heirarcies seen with the adult categories.

You do realize that playing a child avatar doesn't promote child exploitation. SL is generally pretty ok about child avatars, so long as they aren't in adult places. That people are harassing you about allegedly looking young means they are pieces of **bleep**. But that you are also begging on child avatars is also quite inappropriate. If you are playing a 16 year old, you are going to be treated as a minor because your character is a minor. You can choose to play in positive environments where this isn't a problem, you can continue to play in hostile environments and learn to deal with it, or you can change your character.

MishkaKatyusha wrote: how all is sansar supposed to be different from sl? i just started getting settled into sl >.> What I've heard about Sansar is that it's more like a game engine for individual media projects, rather than a larger world like SL. Think of something like multiplayer Minecraft, where each instance of a server can be running different mods and content, completely changing the experience from one server to another. One server might be an MMO like experience while another is a Mario remake.

Probably a bot or something. I don't know how that works in SL, but that sounds like it. I think some chat clients don't fully log you in to the point of having an avatar, so that could explain why you are seeing them but not seeing them.

Bad families. I left/was removed from one over roleplay reasons. I play an adopted orphan and the dad, who turned out to have serious real world medical en emotional problems, couldn't handle me not calling him "dad," even though I was waiting for the mom to come online so I could stage it as a nice hallmark scene. He also started projecting real world problems on everyone else, and after it was decided that I would leave, the rest of the family quickly fell apart when they realized what he was doing. I also left a family after I was griefed by one of the other kids, They started a prank war and I did a single thing in response (bored up their playhouse with a biohazard sign over the weekend) and the whole thing blew up and became hostile. Good family. After the griefing debacle, I met a new family and immediately knew that it was going to work out. Aside from genuinely caring for one another and supporting one another in and out of game, there was a lot of reception to roleplaying and doing family activities. What did it for me was when we went to an amusement park and I roleplayed throwing up and getting sick. Following not finishing a RP hud meal and with hints dropped from the dad about seeing a doctor if I still felt sick, we played through the whole thing. Basically, if someone will let you pretend puke on you and roll with it, they're a keeper. And half a year later, things are going great. Ultimately, it's because of the family that I still play. I moved and don't get to log much when others are on, and it's been having a family that keeps me active (both logging and doing things in game). I think you should start a family. It might be tough or even hurtful to find the right people, but when you do...