Aethelwine

Maybe there should be 2 classes of routes. One that is entirely protected route, that with care setting waypoints would be dependable and a second class that at least partly relies on passing through private land. I like the idea it is not necessarily something I would use all the time, but I can think of some uses like making a taxi route from your log cabin to a railway station or water rezz area, or a water taxi route to go to nearest airport. And for more public tourist routes. Besides waypoints is there a facility to indicate velocity? For aircraft\submarine altitude? And any scope for adding comments to point out things to look at like the yavapods have?

For what it is worth my recent experience of lag comes from trying to ride a motorcycle cruise along with 20 or so others on motorcycle club tracks. The lag exhibits itself with my bike and avatar flying up into the air and spinning, sometimes ending up in the region corner. The others don't seem to get the lag I do. The one person that went through a few tests with me said they were downloading around 45 Mbps, I recently upgraded my internet speed to a 30 Mbps connection. It seems at least from my experience that lag is now more related to connection speeds the system requires than script load on regions.

An idea cropped up on the recent thread about the Linden's spring cleaning marketplace about the same idea having more value when applied to mainland. Discussing it there would take that off topic, but it has got me thinking and I think worth discussing. A couple of objections raised there I think are spurious. Firstly that it would in some way breach the contract made when the land was bought, especially as the land continues to be paid for either through recurring direct debit payments or because of early premium privileges. On the contract, the Terms of Service have always been clear they are subject to change depending on what Linden Lab consider their interests. I don't see a difference here between how marketplace listings worked, the decisions around spring cleaning made recently without explicit additional forewarning. Secondly the land that might be recovered would similar to the marketplace be from absent accounts and therefore the owner wouldn't know to object. I think there would need to be some protections, I would not like to lose some of the early builds that are distinctive parts of the history. So maybe they could create a policy that balances those concerns by removing parcels from automatic recovery built in the first five years. Land in that category would only be recovered and put up for sale after an individual review of the parcel by Governance. It might be complicated to work out a process that protects and avoids all legitimate concerns, but on the face of it it seems to me it could help refresh mainland and be of benefit to those living and using mainland also helping to maximise Linden Lab profits.

Something like that could help if people are having problems with sorting through decades old junk. I have never had that problem, scripts still seem to work for the most part without going out of date and with bakes on mesh we can now much more easily use some of the old outfits than we could pre-bom. Junk, IE stuff I don't like is as likely to be recent as something from 10 years ago. It is the outfits listed under every colour separately that make me applaud the idea of cleaning up marketplace.

I agree my heart sinks when searching an item and finding separate listings for every colour of an outfit. It puts me off buying from them at all.

If I had a full bright prim build with big glass windows displaying images of people being tortured on moderate land like one neighbor that doesn't appear to have logged in for ten years then I think it possible to allow governance some discretion to apply a criteria around taste. Besides if I hadn't logged in in 5 or 10 years I wouldn't care anyway as I don't use the land and wouldn't even know. I think I would be more surprised to find it still there.

Some of the ugly neglected builds on mainland are most definitely garbage. Some have some historic significance, others are just eyesores with no redeeming qualities. I don't know how to formulate a clear policy, but I think some sort of spring clean of mainland would be more value than marketplace database purging.

I have noticed some old stores going with some sadness, not sure if related to this, previous purges or if the makers had simply closed their stores. One example the eccentric sculpty creations of Grimm Bros it isn't every day you would want to be wearing a dress with a cage framed dress with patisserie shelf and\or a train set going around it, but I had thought it would always be there to buy when the occasion came around. I wonder how many historic treasures like that will be or have been purged.

Niran does a free Server Side AO I have used in the past when using something other than Firestorm for my viewer. It seemed to work well.

If you are having a problem with the designation of your account I suggest talking with Support. https://support.secondlife.com/create-case/ There have been some changes with regards to rules for Scripted Agents, perhaps something has gone awry. When making the report try to phrase the report more factually... like I have recently joined SL and still finding my way, but I am encountering this problem which returns this message when I try and do this.. etc They need more specifics to identify what the problem is and asking in a way like that gives them more information to help you with.

I wondered if they might have been linked to a larger linkset obscuring them, but I cycled through edit linked parts to see if I could see Eric Linden's grass, but can't see it. I think you might need the group ability "landscaping with linden plants" in your group role to select them? Which sort of takes me back to thinking your next step might be to ask one of the WRE Managers to take a look for you.

Good idea, but just nothing there. Only a handful of objects showing in the area like steps, and some others bits. There s a sort of rod under the ground that might have a script in that is temp rezzing them but I don't think so I am really clutching at straws with that, I suspect the rod has a greeter in of some sort. It looks more like some sort of region glitch.

Yes very odd, I have an alt at the club and they don't come up in area search for me and I can't select them. It might be worth asking one of the Weasles Real Estate managers to come over and take a look. It is possible that they will have some additional group right that will allow them to show up, or they might have an idea how to get rid of them. Ps nice club.

I think that is a relatively recent innovation (like in last 5 years?), before that you could select objects through odd way of using a Pathfinding Character search, you still sort of can do it that way but area search is easier and more intuitive. And yes drag selecting is far from a perfect method, but something easy enough to consider that can be useful when lucky.

Drag selecting can help to get them too. I think another option is to select them off the area search results?

The guilt you feel for your actions is really something between you and your conscience. But in relation to this thread the circumstance you describe is rather different from the "everyone is happy" by the arrangement hypothesis laid out in the original post. The argument made fails because the premise is false.

Until you mentioned it it had never occurred to me that RFL tip booths would be covered by rules on Commercial activity. In the UK the economy is divided in to sectors. The first sector being commercial, the second sector public and the third sector charities and not for profits.

To be fair after posting questioning scale of the lag problem it occurred to me that instances of little apparent lag where people are putting in fastest laps they are on relatively unoccupied regions. When avatars on the region exceed 10 or are racing in close proximity then lag is a factor.

Is lag and responsiveness of control inputs really the limitation some suggest in this thread? Competitive bike and car races involve complex manoeuvres with microsecond timing on turns

I am so could change the stream for them. I think they have TIS dance balls so with the hud version we could bring our own couple dances along. The only downside is not being able to rezz tip jars really, except at the fairgrounds. It is not something that would bother me personally if it wasn't for it being unfair on the rotation system we have with our DJs with those at say a Campwich event having to rely on one of those "hooker" worn tip jars lol.

Some of our DJs have those request a song boards, from what you are saying we could only use that at the fairgrounds. And yes Abnor gatecrashed one or our parties a few years ago to complain about the tip jar. Since then we have have used land of mine or other club members on mainland for DJ events. I might have DJ'ed from my houseboat but I have never bothered with tips, just fun playing music. But we have a rota for DJs and it has always felt bad to ask them to not take tips if their week falls on one where we plan a cruise in Bellisseria... so we stopped running them, except where destination was outside it.

Yes that is why previously our Bellisseria events with DJs and after parties finish outside Bellisseria rather than within it. We have locations we can use connected on mainland but it does to some extent limit the cruises we can put on.

I have run sailing events weekly for Rainbow Sails, Topless Sailors, RRMC and Tradewinds YC going back over 10 years. So What I am thinking of is for after cruise parties. How do I get invites to the performers group?

Allowing Tip Jars at Community Centres is a bit of a game changer. So how do you book an event at a Community Centre?

Atlan Blades map is showing its age if you look at the estates Diamond highlights but still a useful resource for finding places in the mainland area to visit: It is 5 years old, it still has Triumphal YC on. :Sad face: Although the airport there (if it is still there, is nice place to visit)