ErwinVonVlotho Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 minute ago, Arielle Popstar said: No, most of their money comes from land barons, not individual users. I suspect Land barons can operate on a negative rental income and still make money on tax write offs, but don't quote me. You've never studied economics, have you? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aya Sweetheart Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 11 minutes ago, Sid Nagy said: There you go. I found this... People tab The search system does not filter keywords when you search for avatar names or profiles. Information in Resident profiles should be General. Please refer to our Community Standards for details. But it links to the Community Standards and that doesn't say anything about it I can find... (reference: https://community.secondlife.com/knowledgebase/english/maturity-ratings-r52/) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 13 minutes ago, Madi Melodious said: 6 hours ago, Zalificent Corvinus said: This isn't about "conformity" or "free expression". Nobody cares. Wow, that's the kind of thing Zal would say! But shorter! * gibs gold star * 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innula Zenovka Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 42 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said: What do you base then on, magical thinking? We have no idea what they do with it. (we do but can't say) Maybe Sid has read the FAQ: Quote Q: I reported someone for sexualized *****, and they are still inworld. Why? A: We investigate every report for sexualized ***** and rely on our thorough investigative process to both validate and prove or disprove the allegations submitted. If the evidence and backing investigation do not yield multiple, verifiable points of proof on an allegation, then no action may be taken. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arielle Popstar Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 3 minutes ago, ErwinVonVlotho said: You've never studied economics, have you? A little but I do come from a family of accountants. Does that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinVonVlotho Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 5 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said: A little but I do come from a family of accountants. Does that count? No. Accountancy is not economics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 This whole "Let's suggest using changes in the TOS to punish those who are suspicious in general" reeks of the old trope that "men are bad". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwin Alcott Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 17 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said: Yes, keep grazing and pay no mind to the bleating of those being led away to the slaughter. didn't hear or seen your long lines walking yet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 15 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said: 18 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: Interesting choice of euphemism. Ok, wasn't sure if it was a euphemism or a parable but you get the gist? Yes. I disagree with the premise, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flower Caerndow Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 What if these new rules for child avatars and more enforcement are not about appearance but about legality? I found this on a website for a law firm - https://kdlawgroup.com/blog/2020/07/can-you-be-prosecuted-for-cartoon-pornography/ "US Federal law has a specific section of its obscenity laws to address this. Section 1466A deals with “Obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children.” It specifies that: “Drawings, cartoons, or paintings that appear to depict minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct are deemed obscene.” On another law firm website - https://www.chamberslawfirmca.com/just-the-facts-can-a-person-be-charged-for-watching-animated-child-pornography/ “Obscene” is the essential word in the federal statute. Obscene materials do not enjoy First Amendment free expression rights, according to Supreme Court decisions. However, proponents of free speech contend that anime and other cartoons have substantial aesthetic merit and are not always vulgar. Federal charges are not usually brought for merely viewing animated child pornography, but they may be brought for having obscene material in your hands." Neither site I found mentioned video games, and I wonder how "in your hands" would be interpreted for SL and LL. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arielle Popstar Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 minute ago, ErwinVonVlotho said: No. Accountancy is not economics. No but it analyzes the numbers to make sense of the economics. Any case this is going off topic so what is your point related to the thread? My contention is that individually we don't effect SL's bottom line. If LL makes or saves money in the long term by getting rid of any Child avatars, then they will as they might be looking at it as a mid or long range goal to open the grid to new opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arielle Popstar Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 6 minutes ago, Alwin Alcott said: didn't hear or seen your long lines walking yet Read some of Coffee Pancake's posts then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathlen Onyx Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 39 minutes ago, BilliJo Aldrin said: nope, ALL profiles must be rated G, because everyone can see everyones profile. I’d post a link to the TOS, but I’m on my phone and don’t know how 😂 Well then, 3/4 of the SL community is violating the TOS. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilliJo Aldrin Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 minute ago, Kathlen Onyx said: Well then, 3/4 of the SL community is violating the TOS. Yep, they are 😂 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arielle Popstar Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 2 minutes ago, Kathlen Onyx said: Well then, 3/4 of the SL community is violating the TOS. Now you're getting it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathlen Onyx Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 34 minutes ago, Madi Melodious said: Nobody cares. I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Melody Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Early in this thread, someone mentioned they had a child avatar created by someone that is no longer active in SL. People have also been concerned about LL removing such items from their inventory. What if LL created a child avatar that meets their new requirements and then when they remove a non-conforming child avatar from users inventory, they replace it with their own LL created child conforming avatar? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arielle Popstar Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Just now, Indy Melody said: Early in this thread, someone mentioned they had a child avatar created by someone that is no longer active in SL. People have also been concerned about LL removing such items from their inventory. What if LL created a child avatar that meets their new requirements and then when they remove a non-conforming child avatar from users inventory, they replace it with their own LL created child conforming avatar? That would take work, not simply talk. The lab seems somewhat averse to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 A thought on the TOS changes: It's a good thing the child avatars are not really "children", we're adults and barely understand or agree on TOS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 8 minutes ago, Flower Caerndow said: “Obscene” Not easily defined in today's society, depending on where you live. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwin Alcott Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said: Read some of Coffee Pancake's posts then. i prefer other content with more realistic views, shall i take your next ten dentist appointments? In the saved time you'll read those posts. Edited May 8 by Alwin Alcott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalificent Corvinus Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 24 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said: No, most of their money comes from land barons, not individual users. I suspect Land barons can operate on a negative rental income and still make money on tax write offs, but don't quote me. I'm quoting you. And laughing, as you obviously know nothing about how land barons make money. I've heard a number of utterly clueless people claim "They can't possibly make money off land, it must be a tax write off". and every one of them was wrong. It's actually EASY to see where they make money if you do the math. Maybe you should try KNOWING a land baron and seeing how they operate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flower Caerndow Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: Not easily defined in today's society, depending on where you live. If you bothered to look at the links you would see that in the US federal law says that child pornography is obscene. And gives more details than I thought should be included here. Edited May 8 by Flower Caerndow added more 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathlen Onyx Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 10 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said: No but it analyzes the numbers to make sense of the economics. Any case this is going off topic so what is your point related to the thread? My contention is that individually we don't effect SL's bottom line. If LL makes or saves money in the long term by getting rid of any Child avatars, then they will as they might be looking at it as a mid or long range goal to open the grid to new opportunities. Who do you think buys the land from the land barons? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Melody Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 2 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said: That would take work, not simply talk. The lab seems somewhat averse to that. Not really, I am sure they already have computer coding that can search all inventory in the inventory data base that can search for a UUID code of a specific item. All they would have to do is add a code that if UUID item is found then replace that item with new UUID code item Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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