Henry Darkthief Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Not sure which forum a discussion of TPVs should be in, so feel free to move this.Both Phoenix and Imprudence have released new versions of their viewers. Imprudence's is their latest experimental and Phoenix's is their lates beta. I've been using the new Imprudence experimental since yesterday. They've fixed the media and music bugs. I was using it yesterday, TPing, Searching, grid hopping, building and such. Worse problem I found was having to re-enter the key words after closign and re-opening Search. I haven't tried Phoenix yet, but they've included a new media filter.Phoenix here: http://www.phoenixviewer.com/Imprudence here: http://blog.kokuaviewer.org/Those links will take you to the pages that detail the changes made. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masta Thor Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Thank you. Do they have the new Media Filter included? I'm using Dolphin Viewer 1 and Dolphin Viewer 2 because it has that feature. If Impudence has it then I will go back to using Imprudence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Darkthief Posted March 14, 2011 Author Share Posted March 14, 2011 Masta Thor wrote: Thank you. Do they have the new Media Filter included? I'm using Dolphin Viewer 1 and Dolphin Viewer 2 because it has that feature. If Impudence has it then I will go back to using Imprudence. Yes, Phoenix has the media filter in place. I was running around SL a bit yesterday. Still seems to be the same Phoenix otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Ermintrood Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Phoenix stated that this beta has some bug fixes and to help them see if they are on the right track with some problems that were reported on the last release. It also has the media filter which is a bonus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassy Kenin Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) I downloaded the new release of Firestorm.. but miss the removed features(Slide out Folders) had to be removed due to the LL shared user experience policy. Are you still using Phoenix? Edited May 20, 2021 by Sassy Kenin tYpO's 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Legion Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Well now, the very first thread I'd certainly say should have been closed. Attempting to use Phoenix to connect to Second Life would be quite pointless these days. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chic Aeon Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Sassy Kenin said: I downloaded the new release of Firestorm but miss the removed features(Slide out Folders) they had to be removed due to LL shared user experience policy. Are you still using Phoenix? You replied to a TEN YEAR OLD THREAD. Nothing there is relevant. The "shared user experience" also seems to be somewhat irrelevant these days . Edited May 20, 2021 by Chic Aeon too many "also"s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PermaRuthed Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Thoughts that went through my head... Darkthief....that's an name I haven't seen 'round here before. Phoenix, isn't that a predecessor of Firestorm unless they're calling their latest update that... Like how the SL viewer updates are named after alcoholic drinks. Imprudence is not in the TPV directory... *looks at timestamp of OP* oh..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassy Kenin Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Solar Legion said: Well now, the very first thread I'd certainly say should have been closed. Attempting to use Phoenix to connect to Second Life would be quite pointless these days. 1st I would like to hear Henry's thoughts on the matter after all these years if he is still involved in SL as Henry or Equivalent 2nd You never know they might still use it depending on the PC and Hardware 3rd Glads it is open as it marks around the time SL development stopped on the linden side with the community trying to push forward on the viewer side(Yes a timeline can be shown) 2 hours ago, Chic Aeon said: You replied to a TEN YEAR OLD THREAD. Nothing there is relevant. The "shared user experience" also seems to be somewhat irrelevant these days . "Nothing there is relevant." to you perhaps. No one speaks for current or past viewer developers but them so we have no idea how stagnating the "shared user experience" has been. I know every time the Black Dragon Developer has tried to offer features the lab has just shut him down. Right now Linden Lab is on Auto Pilot. I think a large group needs to get together and petition the New Owners with facts and ideas and sidestep the management in the ivory tower. I also believe the shared user experience should end. a return to direct community drive to add new features to SL. (Yes i know Whirly might pop in telling me how its good) Edited May 20, 2021 by Sassy Kenin Typo'''s 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Legion Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 A PM would have sufficed for that. No one is going to be using Phoenix to connect to Second Life - it is so badly outdated at this point that almost nothing whatsoever would function. That is your opinion. And that's about all that needs to be said here. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassy Kenin Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, PermaRuthed said: Thoughts that went through my head... Darkthief....that's an name I haven't seen 'round here before. Phoenix, isn't that a predecessor of Firestorm unless they're calling their latest update that... Like how the SL viewer updates are named after alcoholic drinks. Imprudence is not in the TPV directory... *looks at timestamp of OP* oh..... 1st Imprudence changed and became another viewer that is on the list. Yes the Ashes of Emerald became Phoenix and Firestorm replaced it. while retaining a "Phoenix Mode" so users got the best of both viewers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassy Kenin Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Solar Legion said: A PM would have sufficed for that. Community Discussion Edited May 20, 2021 by Sassy Kenin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Wouldn't any Phoenix viewer be blocked by now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassy Kenin Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rowan Amore said: Wouldn't any Phoenix viewer be blocked by now? I can still log in with thea 10yr old version of the Teapot Viewer. https://modemworld.me/2012/07/30/teapot-brewing-up-a-viewer/ Edited May 20, 2021 by Sassy Kenin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chic Aeon Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 NOT to respond to the current addition to this old thread, but what I was saying was that we haven't had a true "shared user experience" in a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassy Kenin Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) N/A Edited May 20, 2021 by Sassy Kenin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmoe Whitfield Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 this is why threads this old need locked. when I SAY topics this old are not relevant that means just that. meh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassy Kenin Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, bigmoe Whitfield said: this is why threads this old need locked. when I SAY topics this old are not relevant that means just that. meh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Sassy Kenin said: Are you still using Phoenix? I was responding to this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassy Kenin Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said: I was responding to this. They are based on the same login protocols of that time (same binary code open sourced by lab)...so no difference would have been made logging in... that's what i was thinking🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Firestorm/Phoenix only allows the 3 newest viewers. All others are blocked. The Phoenix Firestorm Project is currently active in developing the Firestorm Viewer, the successor to the now discontinued Phoenix Viewer. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassy Kenin Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said: Firestorm/Phoenix only allows the 3 newest viewers. All others are blocked. The Phoenix Firestorm Project is currently active in developing the Firestorm Viewer, the successor to the now discontinued Phoenix Viewer. They added code later on to viewers to do that as part of there system for whatever reason (Firestorm Team Did)..older viewers only the lab can block them server side. Viewers older then when Firestorm started doing that they cannot block ..only the lab server side. and anyone can edit the current viewer by changing a few flags in the files(if anyone needed to?) to never get blocked. Edited May 21, 2021 by Sassy Kenin Edited to bother Rowan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Mistwalker Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Solar Legion said: A PM would have sufficed for that. No one is going to be using Phoenix to connect to Second Life - it is so badly outdated at this point that almost nothing whatsoever would function. That is your opinion. And that's about all that needs to be said here. Phoenix was blocked years ago. It can't connect. And someone in this thread doesn't know anything about PH or FS. It isn't me. Edited May 21, 2021 by Silent Mistwalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Legion Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Silent Mistwalker said: Phoenix was blocked years ago. It can't connect. Hence, point two in the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyssa Greymoon Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Okay, now I gotta know, where can I get a Phoenix installer? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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