UnilWay SpiritWeaver

What is or isn't a Child AV is not something you can make a checklist of things to declare for. It's a gestault of the overall effect and how the account holder presents themselves. Like the old SCOTUS ruling on obscenity stated so long ago, they declared that they couldn't tell you want it was per se, but everyone knew it when they saw it and it was not something rational people actually tended to disagree on unless they were arguing just to be difficult or to try and get away with things or unfairly persecute. People know what a child AV when they encounter one. It's not something that tends to be unclear. But making a checklist to define it will never work. When someone "gets it wrong" and goes after or fails to go after" someone they're not doing that because they don't know - they're doing it to make trouble. These claims of "I was banned because of..." or "...I saw some OMG stuff going on" always include an added layer of drama. We're just going to have to trust in subjective judgment of people who are NOT part of that drama. They'll only get it wrong when they decide to join in the drama.

No there isn't. But at that point the person who sold that resident the skin layer is no longer included in the penalty of the resulting AR. Requiring the skin have the modesty layer baked in means they're planning to hold skin makers that market skins for child avatars accountable if they market them without that layer. It also means that if you're selling adult skins you'd be wise to clearly market them as such. Right now if I go buy an adult skins, most brands have the nipples and for female skins the lower part baked in - despite the fact that the lower part can as a result stretch across the entire buttocks and make it look like you need to buy a bidet or some tissue paper... They then often sell a tattoo layer to hide these. If I were an adult skin maker, I'd flip that logic in my next release cycle. No longer include the nipples or lower bits in the base skin. Have a tattoo layer for each of these. Most people who want to "show of their naked parts" buy attachments for higher resolution - HD nipples (usually included as a setting in the body itself) and props for the lower bits. So a skin maker is actually safest just no longer including those by default, and then baking on an entire "non-sensual" underwear layer for any skin marketed to an avatar design of someone under the age of 18 (the legal age in California, where this matters as that's where LL is).

You know that will last all of 3.1 seconds before a land baron is selling it for 80,000L per sqm.

Yet another reason for 'mod' furniture. If it's mod, put in the AVsitter security script, and set access to group. No one can use your furniture unless they're in the group. Done. Any furniture in my Linden homes has that, or is something I missed finding in my last check (which likely means it's something I don't use and only think of as decor). Sometimes I just edit the AVpos notecard and remove the adult items from the menus. I go back and forth on what kind of content I want in my SL so I'll remove them one week and put them back the next - this why I use the security script as that at least is something I stay consistent on.

Maybe just rethink the idea of mixing adult content and child avatars. It was never a good idea to begin with even if it was allowed.

Nope. New policy says skins for a child AV need baked on underwear. So derender away and you'll get nowhere. As for standing next to and reporting - they could probably suss out who was the instigator in that. Even my own logs tell me a timestamp on a teleport. I could probably track which avatar of any given two got it's current coords most recently or most recently changed it's appearance. I could probably write a script for that as a user. I'd be shocked if it's not just on-hand info for a Linden. It's only going to take a few people making drama over this with attempts to be bad actors, and then the lindens stepping in and fixing things, for the drama to settle down. We've had "OMG the sky is falling" drama before it always follows that pattern. Within a short while things settle.

Easy to test. Just log in and set it. That was still true a few months ago when I changed my settings on accident and could get to my own land.

That's actually a MAJOR change. That Child AVs were previously allowed on Zindra and other A places was a big point of contention back when Zindra was being announced with lots of anger on both sides. That was what... 15 years ago? I can think of some venues, even right in downtown Zindra, that effectively now must close and finally move to G land. There was a spot I spent some time in 2023 wanting to buy, but chose not to because the adjacent plot was a 'kids playground' and I felt weird 'acting A rated' even on 'A land' with that "next door".

I tried to think it through some different angles. I think the 'real world' answer often means thinking it through more than our forum responses typically imply. While I will say I strongly prefer mod, and someone else will say they don't care. And a merchant will say this or that - at the end of the day the actual need is going to be very situational with the best answer not always being the same.

So here we get into a particular point: Anything rezzed on the land as a building or permanently there prop (furniture, decor, etc) needs to be Mod so I can resize it, maybe even retexture it, and so on. In your above example you have two competing solutions and might want to consider both of them: 1. Sell it as a build kit - sell this version unlinked as pieces. 2. Sell a prebuilt. With this one take some of the parts back into Blender and link them there in such ways that they're not very handy isolated. The little side building, the main building, the balcony on the lower right and the stairwell of the main build. That's 4 items - import them as just 4 objects. Some tweaking would probably be needed to import the ideal composition for physics / land impact. If you bought this as a full perms kit to assemble a build then it gets tricky. If you have the DAEs then do the blender trick. If you don't option 1 is most likely not allowed by the full-perms seller. But you'd need to really weigh the value of selling it no-mod. Most people would not want a building as no-mod as they'd need to be able to size it, alter textures, etc. It's one reason why I'd never buy a fullperm walls and roofs kit with the intention of selling builds made with it. There's no product I could make that would be valuable to a buyer without breaking the terms. But I have bought many copy/mod walls and roof kits over the years. I've got stacks of them. If I was the person who made the items in your image over in a 3D modeling app and I wanted to sell it in SL, I'd sell it as a copy/mod "create your own fantasy village" kit. A couple of years ago that'd be a kit worth maybe 1000-5000L depending on how good it was and how many pieces, but the prefab building would likely not have been worth more than 500L at the most. These days I don't know prices of these things too well. You'd sell more prefabs though - probably by an extreme margin. I'd sell the kit only because as a customer I'd want to buy the kit over the prefab because I'm not the typical customer. But again, if I'd been the 3D modeler, I could sell a prefab that was in grouped pieces which wouldn't be of much use unlinked, and then ALSO sell the build kit - as per the example I began this post with.

How are you putting it out? Are you using a thing that you rez on the ground and then click a script to move it to where you want it? If so, and the skybox is one that was made around 20 or so years ago - when SL was new the max height was very low, and then even for years after it was moved to 4000 you used to need a script to be able to get above 160 that people would call a flight feather. If you skybox is from 2009 or earlier, give or take a year or so because my memory on this very rough... it might still have those old limits. To get around that... if the skybox is just a box without inside pre-set furniture you can just manually edit it to where you want it. If it's a prefab - you can MAYBE rez a prim, sit on that prim and edit it to how high you want to be, then edit the prim to be bigger - so that when you when you stand up you don't fall off. Now you should be able to rez your skybox up there where you are, and then delete that prim once you're done. Unless your skybox has a script to move it self back down - it will stay there. If you have a friend who's experienced with SL they can help with this because it's a lot less complicated than my explanation probably sounds.

That deformer got me exactly the look that was in my head. And because it's a deformer I can still use the Lelutka elf ears that came with my head so there's no seam. Most of the hair I own covers the ear join fully or partly making the seam area only obvious when looking for it - so there I am without the hair on to show how the results up close. This is actually one of the smaller sizes in the deformer kit. It goes from size 0 to 3, and this is number 1 in the 'up+' - meaning angled upwards. It has angles of down, middle, up, and up+.

A few years back they absorbed the nearby 'Eden' "naturist" estate. That was a 'human only' nudist area. When Fruit got it I noticed all the Eden covenant rules vanished. By contrast Fruit always had a no public nudity rule. I'd suspect people on both sides of that merger were not happy with the changes. A mix of incompatible expectations. I couldn't figure out from looking at the covenants which side had the won out for the rules of what was now acceptable, nor could I even find an "office" to drop a notecard to ask. So I moved on. Perhaps I wasn't alone in that.

Anyone consider not complaining that raising a concern is complaining, and not expecting people to have to limit to non-physics based options? Obviously the Lindens and Moles make what policies they desire for Belli, and that is what it is and I accept that. I just wish they'd communicate it with signage rather than disable things in secret so I wouldn't be asking why something is happening.

I've been looking for good evoX head fitting elf ears for some time. The ones that come with Lelutka are just too small. I want this: But I get only a little more than this:

Edit for my post has expired so... I have 4 avatars, and I think 2 of them are using Brianna. One uses Ceylon, the other is a furry so uses the August Katy head (a cat head). I have several heads on each account except for the furry. My first 3 accounts are very old so over the years they've collected piles of things. 5-6 different Lelutka options on each account. I think half of those from free events and half bought. I've also got some Catwa and Mayreal heads on my older accounts. I was under the impression that none of the updates for Lelutka 4.x had come out yet. That it had only been announced and maybe was out for some new heads. So I've not even bothered to look into that yet.

Debating between keeping this or my houseboat.

Yeah I find both the policy and the way it was 'secretly implemented' both weird and a little unkind. Not having any notification and hiding blockers is just strange. Having the policy at all is also weird. Why, what purpose does it serve to have an actively anti-vehicle policy somewhere? Especially somewhere where there is a wide open lane that looks very much like a sort of roadway. If they want a policy - fine. But why hide it? It feels condescending, though I doubt that is intended.

As others have noted - the problem with payment system switches is that payment companies have gotten it into their heads to "think of the children" all of the time, and no one ever wants to "think of the adults." That's not just about "adult content" but also about adult-aged content... Things folks who are grown up like to do, talk about, experience, etc. are not just 'NSFW", but also anything SFW as opposed to 'SF-preschool. Banks and payment processors have decided to moralize on everyone, and can get away with it because they're holding people's money hostage. Changing payment systems puts things back into uncertain waters. Panic waters? No. Just uncertain.

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