Pussycat Catnap

Yes Que has the right of what I meant. North of Zindra continent. Open up map search and search for a sim: "Horizons " Note the space after the s. All of the sims up there are two word sims with the first word being Horizons. It's themed 'retro sci-fi canal city' and all the lots are 1024 double prim. Oddly many of them are unsold. Understandably because land barons bought them all and half those got price up into the WTF range... but I managed to get one for 20,000L about 2 months ago... In generally though... a LOT of people now have 512m more meters of land allowance than they did yesterday. People with brains actually have 563m more. So... time to go shopping. There's a lot of good mainland out there... the above example is likely the easiest place to get some double prim land... The good land in SL is usually too expensive for most people... Horizons can run counter to that. But that won't last long. The plot next to mine recently doubled in price.

I know screenshot sounds... "like it's not art" and we know that a really well made screenshot of SL is art, the same way a really photo isn't just a snapshot. In animation... there is a term that turns "video capture of gameplay" to art: machinema. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machinima I'm not aware of a similar term for screenshots, which surprises me. I suspect one does exist and I simply don't know it... The term "render" could apply as well, but is actually more specific to a 'screenshot of a composition for art' - it is basically more akin to the result of 'digital sculpture'. Yet most Daz3D users don't do ANY modeling. What they do is actually a LOT closer to what a group of SL users posing avatars do... but with vastly more advanced tools for controlling composition, lighting, and so on. So... screenshot is really the only "legit term" left... yet presently lacks 'artistic respect' because like photography... it covers BOTH art and 'point and click', and I don't think anyone has yet even tried to 'win the art community war' on claiming the term as photographers once had to do and managed to succeed at over the decades.

Oh I'm glad I saw this thread. All I've been able to find is static pool tables with xxx animations... not an actual game table.

As for the notion of 'socializing with only people that have mesh bodies...' I get it in some sense... Three ways this would be important: 1. You like to do things like SL dance, take SL screenshots, or other animations / imagery together with others. For this... people need avatars that look good enough to enjoy visually. 2. You're into SL-sex. Again with the visuals... you want something you can enjoy seeing on the screen. Plenty of 'hey baby, sexxy time?' requests that I have ignored because of this. If I don't get turned on by your avatar... what am I there for? 3. You're into SL shopping. There is nothing more frustrating that going shopping with someone with whom you have nothing commercially in common. If I am all googoo for a certain kind of product, and my shopping buddy is bored out of her freaking mind at the things I'm looking over... we won't last. Ain't NONE of that related to race. That said... I actually do have a 'no-blonds' rule on my 'sex rules' list... SL just has too much blond and it's a turn off for me. Ya'll can decide if that's about race or not all you want. But it is NOT about mesh - that's a separate rule I have on my 'sexxy time' list...

Nah. I have 2 premium accounts. So I just got 1024 more tier from this. The plot in question is a double prim 1024 plot on Zindra. ps: Anyone looking for some double prim land right now. Look NORTH or Zindra. Horizons continent is about half unsold lots. All 1024, all double prim. Some of them low priced (that might not last to the end of the day though...).

Hmmm... goes over and removes plot that was listed for sale from being for sale... MINE!!! All mine now... I gets to keeps it.

Oh... drat... My first reaction to this was to TP to my Bay City plot... where I am almost out of prims... To see where my Precious Prims be at... Then I noticed this is just giving me more tier... It's a message to go shopping...

The point of confusion regarding 'hispanic' is in still thinking 'race' is a biological classification. I see this all the time used as a way to JUSTIFY discriminating against me and people like me. "You're not a race, hispanic is not a race" - by the very people who then lump us into a category and do things like murder us in the grape fields, rape our mothers working in domestic labor, deport those of us who are indigenous to this area because we happened to be outside without a birth certificate on hand (somewhere between 600-1000 US citizens have been deported in the last decade for looking too brown. Cheech Marin's "Born in East LA" movie may have been comedy, but it's motivated by something real - many of my ethnic peers never crossed the border, in the 1840s the border crossed them)... So yes... because 'race' is NOT actually biological... it is actually a mis-understanding of trying to make 'ethnicity' into 'biology' (that itself is a racist concept born out of the idea that people are inherently this way or that)... so... basically 'racism' and 'ethnocentrism' are two words for a nearly identical concept. The entire set of genes that 'differ' among the entire Caucasian "race" is less than the difference inside of a single average village in Africa. The people outside of Africa - are generally the descendants of small bands of survivors from scattered groups that left. I once read that they estimate the vast majority of the Americas was the result of 30 people that made it across the Bearing Strait. - Yet when you just look at people, you won't see this. When you look at people you see 'morphology' - appearance. The LEAST important aspects of our DNA, we have magnified out of proportion over the last 500 years. Read "Stamped from the Beginning" = Ibram X. Kendi for a very good analysis of this process and how it runs both counter to our historic ethnic divides and was no accident, but a direct process to make the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade appear 'normal' to the populations that needed to be 'kept quiet' about it... If plantation owners were going to enslave all those people, they had to make the other people see them as less human... they had to 're-educate' the western world, and 'Race' was the crafted construct to do this. A mere century before 'race' was fabricated, you had things like a whole society of Merchants from Sub-Saharan Africa living in Bristol England and rising into all segments of society in the multiple generations that they lived there. 'Hispanic' is likewise... a product of this... it is the most recent part of the construct... so the flaws within it are more glaring. Once again 'race' has been cast over a broad set of different ethnic groups that have a common former colonizer. Race IS real. But it is not biological. It is a social construct cast upon people to categorize them and put some above or below others. It has been so ingrained into the structure of modern societies now, and no longer just western ones... that to deny it's existence is to actually perpetuate the harm it was crafted to inflict... but we need to become hyper aware of it, and that it is a construct... so that we can begin to dismantle the injuries it inflicts...

See my link to Daz3d. That is 'render' - an application to 'render' 3D models into art: stills or animation. This is why I get so annoyed when people refer to SL screenshots as 'photos' They aren't. They are screenshots, renders of SL. Photography refers to something in the real world. 'photo' itself - refers to light. Rendering is what you do with 3D models. Screenshotting is what you do with 'real time 3D graphics / games' like SL.

Yes. They get away with it because, or so I suspect, the vast majority of SL users have no idea what 'Daz3D' is. ps everybody, free and really cool art tool: https://www.daz3d.com - You can make 3D art with that with ease, and it even has some nice built in figures. Also... it reveal just how horribly bad the classic SL avatar is. You can load the SL figure into that and look at how it's made... it is shockingly bad, even by 1999 standards (I was making 3D art in 1999, and a whole lot of modelers back then were GIVING AWAY better models than the SL one... some who were seeking opportunities to be employed or sell their work on for gaming. SL's horrible 'classic avatar' has no excuse for even existing...)

Yep. Using Daz3d / Poser models to do a 3D render - great for art, but the result is extremely misleading about what you'll get in SL.

I've found that as soon as I do... my next purchase is that one item with a cut that reveals the particular merchant's weak point on design... It can be particularly important if the item is for a body that isn't the merchant's favored one. For example Addams is almost certainly a Belleza user - looking at their advertising screenshots they ALL appear to be using Belleza, likely freya. So as a Belleza user... it is extremely rare for me to find a flaw in an Addams product. But it has happened. With merchants who's advertisements show them wearing Maitreya... or worse - show them using Daz3D or Poser images to make the ad (this is getting more and more common...), I have zero faith that any item will be good, even if I already have a stack of items from them... because their own adverts are showing me they lack familiarity with the body I use - they've just gotten lucky with their fitting algorithms thus far.

I'd actually argue he is. I can refer to his speeches and compare them to Adolf's and find too many similarities in tone, message, and even gesticulation... At least a racist. Fascist is an extremely particular term... and I'm not sold on him being this. He is too 'nepotism and loyalty' oriented. One of his big failings... his failure to get his agenda through that is... is that he lacks a coherent ideology. His sense of 'me'-ism weakens his ability to be an actual fascist.

I am a neko ever since as a newly returned user in 2009, I put on a 'wear this box of goodies' freebie and it made me a neko on my old account. It immediately struck a chord with me, felt very me... and then I started realizing my avatar name absolutely did not fit me at all... so this account was born to make things fit and I scrambled my password on the other one to 'move past it'. Over the years I have made alts that were furry, rabbit-girl, human, alien, orc, and so on... but none of them ever feel as me except for the neko. Though of late while the Orc is getting a similar vibe - I am not sure if this will hold. My orc is an orc because... Orc is a proxy in fantasy for racist fantasies. Orc is the 'acceptable person of color to kill' by lighter skinned fantasy races, and Orc fashion and culture are usually modeled out of racist stereotypes of Native Americans. So the Orc... feels very much like RL me...

I'm pretty sure I have at least one plot of land that cost me more than 60,000L. If not now, then in the past I have had one or more that cost even more than that... Over time though... the land process has been funded largely by the sale of the previous spot... I own four different double-prim multiple side protected lots, and two water lots... so they actually have potential to be sold for much more than this, but I usually sell them for no more than what I need to replace them, when I do sell one.

Yes, but I don't think anyone involved in that place is actually a forum user anymore. Or at least, many of them are not involved here. It is kind of a creation out of the forums we had a little less than a decade ago. I actually think the idea of a weekly social the rotates around different people's homes has some potential. Think of Hippie Bowman's "breakfast club" that was on Sundays - members volunteered to host it (the list eventually got so long you'd be signing up to host 6 or more months down the line). That party still goes on but under a different manager now. Simply put up a thread, pick a regular time and frequency it will occur, and have people get to host on a first post first get basis. Whoever is central to organizing it should be someone who stays on these forums regularly, without breaks (disqualifying me), and has done so for a few years or more. - Mostly so that it doesn't suffer the Forum Cartel problem. The Forum Cartel is, I think, one of two groups composed of "former forum users" moreso than current ones...

This is getting to be the like word 'fascist' - 'racism' does not mean 'anything we don't like'. It has a specific meaning. Mesh or not mesh is not a 'morphological grouping of unrelated real world ethnic groups' commonly viewed as a 'race' under the pretext of an incorrect understanding of biology... Racism refers to a specific kind of discrimination. It is not a broad brush for anything unpleasant.

It should be noted that the standard sizes was kind of a compromise solution we all thought we would be stuck with before fitmesh. They are, if I recall right, 5 sizes - and you need to exactly match the shape dials on the dials they use... So when you use them you lose a lot of 'what makes you you'. I was a BIG defender of them back in the day... BUT that was because they were the best of a bad situation... some standard so we could have SOMETHING to wear... If you can find it... because it is super rare... find fitmesh for classic avatars. It is rare because shortly after fitmesh debated people making mesh bodies updated them to be fitmesh... and then we got into the fitmesh scene... and the blokes kinda got left behind... I don't even know if there is any fitmesh for classic male avatars. Now and then I see it for female avatars and... frankly... it tends to be hit or miss whether or not it actually fits... If you are lucky, your shape will be 'common enough like' that one of the standard sizes looks like you until you start paying too much attention... If that occurs... then count your blessings and go shopping. If I hadn't made my boobs so big after getting the wonderful bouncy fitmesh boobies that come with Belleza Freya... I'd probably still be able to wear standard size XS and look "close" to myself... except XS always had rail thin legs and not much butt... and I now have curves everywhere... but in a pantsuit or gown, it works... just as it would for a guy in a suit or loose jeans. I was a completely 'PG' user for SL from about 2010 or 2011 until Belleza Freya came out - so I still have a HUGE collection of standard sizes outfits packaged into an 'old stuff' prim somewhere. As noted in the part of the quote I snipped... a good mesh body will have a HUD that can do cuts for some key parts if the fit is close at the 'edges'...

I do do a LOT of clothing shopping in SL... sometimes even normal clothes. Selection can be rough at times. I'm on Belleza which is about 13% of the userbase... Maitreya is the big brand for female avatars... so this means I experience a lesser version of what male avatars do... not enough stuff and seeing other people having all the good shopping choices... You kinda need a mesh body with a good alpha-ing kit... and a good Omega setup for applier clothing... and then to labor at a system body shape that retains your rough look when you switch between the two.

That's just when I show up naked... ... Well I do that anyway... But it is actually one of the two reason I started going nude in SL about 2 years ago... There was horrible selection, and the other reason: my new mesh body looked too good and I wanted to be able to oogle it all the time and see other people also perving me... (which is a LOT safer to do in SL than in RL...) But yeah... lack of selection... just flaunt what you got. My male alt doesn't even own clothes. His "goods" are too "good" to not have out there. P.S. to some blokes: please take a prim to you bits and measure them... I keep seeing super tall guys with tiny tiny tiny bits... I know... they don't want to be the guy who looks like he's compensating... but some of those bits, when I measure them (eyeballing), I'd wager are 1-inchers... I gave my male alt an 8-incher... he looks huge compared to the blokes in the nude-joints... except for that "one guy" you will get now and then who's bits are bigger than my boobs... Measure it... and give our eyes something to enjoy.

Yeah. Me either. Thus bento. It took me forever to find animations I liked though... I have some 40 animations in my tail. I regularly use 1 of them... but a few are static I use for posed screenshots so they get used "here and there". But before the bento I had a super laggy scripted animated tail... and before that I avoided mesh tails for a LONG time for the same reason you note. If you ever need help putting a tail together with some animations... I'm available. I could demo how my anims look in some of the tails I own to help out with choosing... I spent too much money on this because too many shops don't have demos for this... and a LOT of them were bad looking on me...

I can understand. I'm neko. I haven't worn my Solarian in months... I was just pleasantly struck by how your lion cartoon reminded me of my own Solarian. Kinda makes me want to get it for my male alt and see what I could come up with... except that's all he does... get dusted off once a year or so to try out some kit, then put away again... I -DID- buy the mod kit for a Solarian Bento tail, because it also came with a bento neko tail that worked pretty good for me. But I think I actually use a different bento neko tail right now. (I ripped the animations out of several bento tails and put them into the one I use).

There are a LOT of people putting out skins for it, everything from super cartoony to very detailed (in my opinion the one I have is on the detail side - so judge my statement by that example). If not for the spots and eye color, she'd look a LOT like your cartoon lion. I thought someone had even done lion ears... but not sure. Solarian is also interesting in that it comes in 3 genders all in the one purchase...

Interesting... OK... Having recently written a script monitor that also measure "complexity" I have an opinion on this... See... there's actually no way for a script to measure complexity. I can measure ARC... Complexity replaced ARC... Because ARC is bunk. (bunk is fake drugs sold as the real thing to fools... so this is actually just about the right word here...) https://catnapkitty.wordpress.com/2017/12/21/almost-done-wip-script-lag-monitor/ http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LlGetObjectDetails --> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OBJECT_RENDER_WEIGHT --> http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Avatar_Rendering_Cost TL:DR: Bunk. This crack is wack. I really wish we could script up something to monitor Avatar Complexity and use it to alert people... and if we could I would advise against warning for as low as 53k... but we can't.

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