Love Zhaoying Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) 18 hours ago, Coffee Pancake said: Moderator redacted image of enormous political signs Bueller ... Good one! Maybe next we will have a thread specifically posting pictures of "Political Advertisements and Signs in SL"! That would go well (not). On a related note: I wonder if "political satire" is allowed in signage? Or, since it would be considered "political" then..no? Edited September 14 by Quartz Mole 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: Something can be "expressing personal freedom, and/or personal identity" without being "political". Again, back to the "spirit" of the TOS: I believe "political" is intended in the context of referring to literal POLITICS: parties, candidates, issues. I strongly encourage you to consider the point of view that if a "Pride Flag" is considered "political" - then that will be used AGAINST those who wish to fly a "Pride Flag". Restated: I think mostly people who "don't like Pride flags" will consider them "political". In the 70s, feminism began to use the slogan "the personal is political" -- because it is. When there are people telling you what you can wear, whom you have sex with or marry, what books you can read, etc. -- and you surely know as well as I do that there are people trying to tell you that -- then these things will stop being "political." They are the ones who are politicizing "who you are" and what you, personally, choose to do. Pride began, remember, as a protest. It was inarguably, inherently, from its inception, "political." The Rainbow flag will cease to be "political" when people stop opposing what it represents. Edited September 13 by Scylla Rhiadra 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethelwine Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 I can't make head nor tail of the policy. It reads like landlords with more than 50 empty parcels with adverts for their rentals on them would violate the policy. Most adverts in Zindra aren't "general" or a lot aren't... and why would they be... but Zindra is mainland too isn't it? is this saying they are banned? Why can't they just write rules and make them specific to what they want to deal with rather than using sweeping generalities to make rules that make no sense and are going to be widely ignored because businesses depend on them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Since no one is voting IN SL, I don't think a.political sign is necessarily advertising. It's, to me, the same as putting out an American flag or the flag of your country. It shows support to that country. It's not advertising for that country. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Just now, Scylla Rhiadra said: In the 70s, feminism began to use the slogan "the personal is political" -- because it is. When there are people telling you what you can wear, whom you have sex with or marry, what books you can read, etc. -- and you surely know as well as I do that there are people trying to tell you that -- then they are the ones who are politicizing "who you are" and what you, personally, choose to do. Pride began, remember, as a protest. It was inarguably, inherently, from its inception, "political." The Rainbow flag will cease to be "political" when people stop opposing what it represents. I don't disagree - but it shouldn't be political, for the same reasons you gave 🙂 Hopefully during our lifetimes. In Second Life however - back to my point (and on topic) - I doubt that "Pride Flags" are considered political by LL or the Mods. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Istelathis Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 5 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said: Bueller ... I usually just laugh at these, I mean, people and their cult of personalities, the hero worship, all of that silliness. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1 minute ago, Love Zhaoying said: it shouldn't be political Absolutely it shouldn't. And that's why I fly those flags -- to help work towards a day when they are not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Huntsman Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 4 hours ago, Coffee Pancake said: So ... are giant political signs and billboards allowed on mainland or not .. because I report them and they don't go away. When you say political billboards, what exactly do you mean? What exactly did you see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 2 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: In Second Life however - back to my point (and on topic) - I doubt that "Pride Flags" are considered political by LL or the Mods. Sorry, forgot to respond to this. No, I don't think LL would consider them political. (And if they did, and removed them, that would be political.) But that, as I take it, was the point that @Cynite00 was making -- that what seems "political" or ideologically controversial to someone else may not be so to you and me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) 18 hours ago, Istelathis said: 18 hours ago, Coffee Pancake said: Moderator redacted image of enormous political signs Bueller ... Expand I usually just laugh at these, I mean, people and their cult of personalities, the hero worship, all of that silliness. Like, if someone is obviously trolling, does it matter if it is "political" - except it may be against the TOS, resulting in "blight", etc.? Edited September 14 by Quartz Mole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) 18 hours ago, Coffee Pancake said: Moderator redacted image of enormous political signs Bueller ... That's more amusing than anything. The Post is a tabloid paper anyone with an ounce of sanity would disregard. Edited September 14 by Quartz Mole 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1 minute ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: But that, as I take it, was the point that @Cynite00 was making -- that what seems "political" or ideologically controversial to someone else may not be so to you and me. I think "political ads or signs" in the context of normal discussion usually means: - Supporting a particular party or candidate - Supporting a specific election, initiative being voted upon, etc. ..If signs about "Freedom" become considered "political"..even when the sign is about a countries where there is a decided "lack of freedoms".. ..If signs about "Ending War" become considered "political"..even when the sign is about an ongoing war in a country that is "controversial".. ..then moderation has gone too far. FREEDOM, I SAY! <= said it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) 18 hours ago, Coffee Pancake said: Moderator redacted image of enormous political signs Bueller ... I think that this is exactly the kind of "advertising" that LL was targeting in 2020. Maybe they don't care anymore? Edited September 14 by Quartz Mole 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Huntsman Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) 18 hours ago, Coffee Pancake said: Moderator redacted image of enormous political signs Bueller ... I don't see a problem with it at all. I mean if it is against TOS, than I mean yeah they should take it down. Just like I don't care if someone posts a Kamala Harris or Biden Billboard that is favourable to them. But if it is against TOS, than yeah it should be taken down. Edited September 14 by Quartz Mole 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1 minute ago, Love Zhaoying said: I think "political ads or signs" in the context of normal discussion usually means: - Supporting a particular party or candidate - Supporting a specific election, initiative being voted upon, etc. ..If signs about "Freedom" become considered "political"..even when the sign is about a countries where there is a decided "lack of freedoms".. ..If signs about "Ending War" become considered "political"..even when the sign is about an ongoing war in a country that is "controversial".. ..then moderation has gone too far. FREEDOM, I SAY! <= said it Yes, I think this is correct. But this is why I say that the restriction, as written, is vague. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Huntsman Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Just now, Scylla Rhiadra said: Yes, I think this is correct. But this is why I say that the restriction, as written, is vague. They really need to update the TOS on this and make it much clearer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Istelathis Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: Like, if someone is obviously trolling, does it matter if it is "political" - except it may be against the TOS, resulting in "blight", etc.? I used to think they were trolling, but I no longer give them that benefit of doubt. I mean, they get pretty passionate, it gets .. weird .. (now with 50% more politics!) Some people just need something bigger than themselves, a savior of sorts, that will free them from all of them crazy and dangerous windmills dragons. Is it advertising though? I don't know, it may just be on their property, they might feel it protects them, like a security orb or something. Should we take away their security blanket, if it is just them expressing themselves? Edited September 13 by Istelathis 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 While the billboards pictured are specifically aimed to garner a response, a simple Harris or Trump sign SHOULD be ok, IMO. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1 minute ago, Istelathis said: I used to think they were trolling, but I no longer give them that benefit of doubt. I mean, they get pretty passionate, it gets .. weird .. (now with 50% more politics!) Some people just need something bigger than themselves, a savior of sorts, that will free them from all of them crazy and dangerous windmills dragons. Is it advertising though? I don't know, it may just be on their property, they might feel it protects them, like a security orb or something. Should we take away their security blanket, if it is just them expressing themselves? It is beyoooooond psychoanalysis.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 I'm putting this on my belis home. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethelwine Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Just now, Rowan Amore said: While the billboards pictured are specifically aimed to garner a response, a simple Harris or Trump sign SHOULD be ok, IMO. Isn't there an additional rule for Bellisseria that prevents them? which would imply for mainland they are allowed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeFlossDaily Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 (edited) Self-deleted. Edited September 13 by WeFlossDaily Probably too political. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 6 minutes ago, Istelathis said: .. weird .. (now with 50% more politics!) Sometimes things are just weird. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 7 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said: While the billboards pictured are specifically aimed to garner a response, a simple Harris or Trump sign SHOULD be ok, IMO. I wish that was true - that simple, straightforward signs were OK. In RL, people are upset ("triggered") by simple signs for opposing candidates. I assume that in SL it is the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 I'm feeling a slight shift in the wind of this thread. It's not really much ,but there is a slight shift.. Enough to say, We may need to evacuate because of the possibility of a CAT 5 hurricane a commin.. But then again, it just could have been one of the dogs running by that caused that too.. We'll know soon enough.. hehehe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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