Missy Starchild Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: Good for you! And I wish all would realize that eventually if you keep posting then others become accustomed to your presence and are less suspicious. Maybe I'm just naive but why would anyone be suspicious of a stranger/newbie they don't know anything about? That just seems really weird and immature to me. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Missy Starchild said: 10 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: Good for you! And I wish all would realize that eventually if you keep posting then others become accustomed to your presence and are less suspicious. Maybe I'm just naive but why would anyone be suspicious of a stranger/newbie they don't know anything about? That just seems really weird and immature to me. Well, my take on it Missy is that such a person has been hurt...they've been deceived by another and so they're wary of anyone they don't have much familiarity with. Either that, or they are just the type of person who lacks trust in anything mysterious, and new people are a bit of a mystery to us. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kali Wylder Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 12 hours ago, Silent Mistwalker said: Compared to the early days (2003-2005/6) this place is tame. It's so tame that I rarely post anything anymore. I drop in once a week or so, scan the topics on the first page of the GD, buzz through the pet peeves thread and leave, usually with nothing to say before I go. Then I browse the "The all-in-one Home Furnishings Topic! " in the belli forum to see if there's any kind of deal I might want to check out and Whoosh! I'm gone again. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, kali Wylder said: It's so tame that I rarely post anything anymore. I drop in once a week or so, scan the topics on the first page of the GD, buzz through the pet peeves thread and leave, usually with nothing to say before I go. Then I browse the "The all-in-one Home Furnishings Topic! " in the belli forum to see if there's any kind of deal I might want to check out and Whoosh! I'm gone again. Lurkey-Loo!! (from "Lookie-loo") 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marigold Devin Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Casidy Silvercloud said: To be fair, this section still isn't the most welcoming to new posters, or returning ones. It's not horrible, but it's not as welcoming as people think. It's hard to get a foot in the door and not have every other person be suspicious. New and returning posters really do have to pay close attention to everything they say and do because someone is likely to assume they're someone else. Its a weird thing but I don't think it's special to just this place, it's everywhere. People all over are more suspicious of people they don't know, which is probably a good thing, so long as it eventually works itself out. I can say it feels a little awkward, for me, to jump right into posts, anywhere here on the forums. I'll keep trying, because I'm stubborn like that, but I understand why some people give up. Totally agree. Some days, as an oldbie, I seem to fit, on other days I get treated like I trod in dog sh1t. Depends who's online. I don't have the best sense of timing. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Marigold Devin said: Some days, as an oldbie, I seem to fit, on other days I get treated like I trod in dog sh1t. Depends who's online. I don't have the best sense of timing. I know what you mean! One day when I logged on someone called me and a friend they disagreed with hyenas!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, kali Wylder said: Then I browse the "The all-in-one Home Furnishings Topic! " in the belli forum Thank you for reminding me to SHOP!!!!! That will get me motivated. I am a bit lacking in motivation today for some reason...just need to get going at something and then be carried away by the movement... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 29 minutes ago, Missy Starchild said: Maybe I'm just naive but why would anyone be suspicious of a stranger/newbie they don't know anything about? That just seems really weird and immature to me. About the only time I see anyone be leery of someone new is, if they think they are a sock puppet/Alt of someone already here or that comes in to stir things up from time to time.. I'm pretty out of the loop on who those are, but it happens from time to time.. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriele Graves Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, Marigold Devin said: Totally agree. Some days, as an oldbie, I seem to fit, on other days I get treated like I trod in dog sh1t. Depends who's online. I don't have the best sense of timing. I do think as a forum we could do better at being inclusive and welcoming whether the person is new or returning. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Gabriele Graves said: I do think as a forum we could do better at being inclusive and welcoming whether the person is new or returning. I totally agree. The new person is on shakier ground because they don't know the ropes yet, and likely unsure whether they'd be accepted. I've always advocated for treating the new person kindly. However, over the years, I've learned to accept that some of the forum regulars are suspicious of new people to a degree, and don't give them the benefit of the doubt as easily in debates...it takes time to build trust...and sometimes the new person is tested a bit, in any group. So I've come around to being sensitive to the other side too. Edited July 28, 2023 by Luna Bliss 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caitlin Tobias Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 36 minutes ago, kali Wylder said: It's so tame that I rarely post anything anymore. I drop in once a week or so, scan the topics on the first page of the GD, buzz through the pet peeves thread and leave, usually with nothing to say before I go. Then I browse the "The all-in-one Home Furnishings Topic! " in the belli forum to see if there's any kind of deal I might want to check out and Whoosh! I'm gone again. I don't even drop in once a week , but perhaps once per month. Or quarter even. I used to be quite active on the forum and have had a lot of fun and hilarious times, but I don't see that happening again anymore. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriele Graves Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: I totally agree. The new person is on shakier ground because they don't know the ropes yet, and likely unsure whether they'd be accepted. I've always advocated for treating the new person kindly. However, over the years, I've learned to accept that some of the forum regulars are suspicious of new people to a degree, and don't give them the benefit of the doubt as easily in debates...it takes time to build trust...and sometimes the new person is testing a bit, in any group. So I've come around to being sensitive to the other side too. I actually tend to treat new people the same as I do anyone by default. It's only in the presence of red flags when I start to get suspicious of anyone and that takes a while to observe. One fault I have is that I don't always notice new people have arrived. There doesn't seem to be an active introduction and welcome topic that I'm aware of. Edited July 28, 2023 by Gabriele Graves 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missy Starchild Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Ceka Cianci said: About the only time I see anyone be leery of someone new is, if they think they are a sock puppet/Alt of someone already here or that comes in to stir things up from time to time.. I'm pretty out of the loop on who those are, but it happens from time to time.. I have been on other forums where this exact scenario has played out with regards to sockpuppet trolls, and it does become hard to trust whether someone is genuine or not, so I totally understand that perspective now because it's made me paranoid before. I myself am more than willing to give the benefit of the doubt (unless there's massive red flags), but that's just me and I understand if others feel differently. Edited July 28, 2023 by Missy Starchild 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persephone Emerald Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 49 minutes ago, Missy Starchild said: Maybe I'm just naive but why would anyone be suspicious of a stranger/newbie they don't know anything about? That just seems really weird and immature to me. People here have become suspicious that any new poster might be an alt of someone who is a troll, who is a sock puppet, or who is a sociology student doing a study on SL. 😆 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belephannt Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Persephone Emerald said: People here have become suspicious that any new poster might be an alt of someone who is a troll, who is a sock puppet, or who is a sociology student doing a study on SL. 😆 This ebil elephant is all of these things and more. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, Persephone Emerald said: People here have become suspicious that any new poster might be an alt of someone who is a troll, who is a sock puppet, or who is a sociology student doing a study on SL. 😆 And now, we have to worry if they are AI Bots! 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marigold Devin Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 40 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: I know what you mean! One day when I logged on someone called me and a friend they disagreed with hyenas!!! Oh yes, that day you and the other two hyenas ganged up on another oldbie forum member and I stuck up for him I seem to recall. I am not easily provoked, so well done, gold star for you Luna, and your little alts too 😜 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, Gabriele Graves said: here doesn't seem to be an active introduction and welcome topic that I'm aware of. There's the "Tell us who you are / We want to know who you are" topic, or similar. Started by a Linden! I forget the actual thread title. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriele Graves Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, Love Zhaoying said: There's the "Tell us who you are / We want to know who you are" topic, or similar. Started by a Linden! I forget the actual thread title. Yes you are right, for some reason I forgot about that. Thank you! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 44 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: I know what you mean! One day when I logged on someone called me and a friend they disagreed with hyenas!!! They have no clue, or would use the term "Yeeners". Nothing wrong with 'Yeeners, just a happy, laughing dog that travels in packs! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Gabriele Graves said: Yes you are right, for some reason I forgot about that. Thank you! If it's not a pinned post, it should be! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Speaking of insults from n00bs, my own "least favorite" is being called a "shill". There's a good sign of "negative Forum changes": If new people come in, with an entitled attitude that they can just complain, and anyone who provides a viewpoint which supports Second Life / Linden Lab is a "shill"! Sorry if the above sounds like a Peeve. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Marigold Devin said: 45 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: I know what you mean! One day when I logged on someone called me and a friend they disagreed with hyenas!!! Oh yes, that day you and the other two hyenas ganged up on another oldbie forum member and I stuck up for him I seem to recall. I was not even a part of that argument about our dear forum member, Sid, and have no idea what he said that apparently irked some others I'm glad to be part of a club though, and had no idea there were two other hyenas! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Just now, Love Zhaoying said: Speaking of insults from n00bs, my own "least favorite" is being called a "shill". There's a good sign of "negative Forum changes": If new people come in, with an entitled attitude that they can just complain, and anyone who provides a viewpoint which supports Second Life / Linden Lab is a "shill"! Sorry if the above sounds like a Peeve. Yes I was so upset over being called a Linden fangurl (just because I would not trash a Mole build and confronted particular trashing that I felt were unjustified) that I deliberately posted a couple of negative things about LL just to prove I am not. I may be more affected by unfair negative accusations than I"m often aware of. I have seen this quite often, so this says to me that the forum has not changed much in some ways 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Missy Starchild said: Maybe I'm just naive but why would anyone be suspicious of a stranger/newbie they don't know anything about? That just seems really weird and immature to me. It's often the people who come in with a controversial topic as their first post and proceed to bad mouth every post made by anyone. Even when the replies are civil, they twist them and then toss out words like Shill and Normie or Oldbie. Often, it's a thread in continuation or related to one already started. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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