Muletta Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 Roche Runo wrote: As a former male escort myself maybe i can enlighten you The male escorts job is to entertain you. To be there for your every whim without question. You set the fantasy (and sometime where) Want a cop? A fireman? A Cowboy? and best of all no string attached. And it isnt just sex. There is coversation, laughter and some times we are just asked to hold them. Some of the payment goes to club where the escort works. ANd man the tips are usaylly in the 1000's But tipping is option hope i anwered your question Oh yes, you have answered a couple of things, and thank you for the reply. You wrote: "Want a cop? A fireman? A Cowboy?" ..... Hmmm, maybe I should go and count my L$, to see what I can get... *waves* --------> :matte-motes-bashful-cute-2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus Petrov Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Muletta wrote: Venus Petrov wrote: Muletta wrote: Venus Petrov wrote: I think the 'service' is negotiable. Perhaps the client wants a bit of small talk in a warm embrace, nothing more. Well, if so, it makes it even more difficult to understand for me, sorry...Because the paying woman can not be ignorant about, that the receiver of her small talk, is only thinking about the money he is earning, while he is only pretending some genuine interest in her welfare and her thoughts... A wise woman is not so foolish to expect that the service provider has a genuine interest in her welfare and thoughts. She is paying him for his time, nothing else. Yes, but still I think it must be a kind of empty feeling for her, to pay a male escort for listening to her, instead of consulting a therapist, a vicar, or to get some real caring friends to talk to....But okay, if the listening is a part of a foreplay to the sexual act, I guess a vicar is a bad idea, after all... 'Warm embrace' does not mean 'sexual act' nor is it necessarily 'foreplay'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madelaine McMasters Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Muletta wrote: Freya Mokusei wrote: Glad you liked my post! I should add that I was trained by a guy (my partner at the time), to train other guys and girls, in the fine arts. There's no trick to teaching except for passion, and enjoying seeing people happy. Kind of a long story anyway, but super-fun. I'm not familiar with the "service" you ran across, if they were indeed only offering 15-30 minute poseball sessions then this - to my understanding of the market - wouldn't be especially successful for long. I don't mean to gender this - no-one can have "fun", in my opinion, in just 15-30 minutes. It's not long enough to switch off. (Of course one of the oldest tricks in the book is the up-sell - start with 15 minutes until it slowly becomes 3 hours - it could be that?) The trick of the business is that it's about good company, with witty, characterful people. Poseball bumping may be a part of it, but overall it's the "headspace" - the mental comfort - that people are seeking. I'd say this need for comfort isn't limited to Real Life, but you're also right that the ability to create the "boyfriend experience" with very few moral objections in Second Life probably slightly undercuts the market. There are plenty of people out there looking to recreate suburban living and that's where this need is served - in Second Life - for most. Haha I certainly wasn't bashing the non-paid-for company either! Just that it can be difficult to match a professional. I'd say it's probable that people would seek quick sessions in place of chasing SL relationships, when they don't want to invest the time (or risk) in spending time meeting people, finding good chemistry, etc. It also allows the woman to be more in the driver's seat, she enters into an environment where she can say "I want someone like this, and I want this to happen." - perhaps a change from relationship dynamics in real life where things are more driven by economics and socially-engrained tradition. I also imagine that part of it is people who want something most stable relationships don't often provide (e.g. swinging, maybe? Cuckoldry? These are things I know less about ). But this is just guessing - in my lessons there were very different objectives. Yes, I liked your previous post and I like this very much too. You have here pointed out some things, that have made me look at male escort from other angles.... I now understand about the 15 minutes, and about the woman being in the driver seat, and the thing with paying for mentally comfort too. Thank you so much for have taken the time to explain to me :matte-motes-smile: I like Freya's posts as well. There are people who pay to visit therapists every week, just to have someone non judgmental to talk to (sometimes at), and who will show an interest in them. I imagine a good escort offers that service in addition to others. I agree with Freya that it would be difficult to turn 15 minute poseball flings into repeat business. It's all about connection, and the right amount of it. We want to feel appreciated, and I'll guess that customers of good escorts believe they're appreciated for more than just the money exchanged. It may not be much more, but sometimes we don't need much more. I'm able to live happily off as little as one positive reply to my forum posts per month. ;-). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muletta Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 Venus Petrov wrote: 'Warm embrace' does not mean 'sexual act' nor is it necessarily 'foreplay'. Of course not. I know. - I was just trying to joke a bit, about the vicar and that...sorry. :matte-motes-bashful-cute: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissTeriMahn Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Muletta wrote: some men even care if their woman thinks and are mean to them too. FIFY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madelaine McMasters Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Muletta wrote: Venus Petrov wrote: I think the 'service' is negotiable. Perhaps the client wants a bit of small talk in a warm embrace, nothing more. Well, if so, it makes it even more difficult to understand for me, sorry...Because the paying woman can not be ignorant about, that the receiver of her small talk, is only thinking about the money he is earning, while he is only pretending some genuine interest in her welfare and her thoughts... Don't discount the possibility that, even when offering services for money, the service provider has a genuine interest in the customer's welfare. I see examples of this every day. I've got a long list of local service providers I've worked with for decades because they go above and beyond what I expect of them. In exchange, I pay them, but I'll also go above and beyond. Some of that is enlightened self interest, some of it just plain interest. The fella who's refinishing my bedroom floors will be borrowing my convertible for a few hours this weekend to take his fiance out for dinner and a drive. Every few years I have a cookout and invite all the people I've hired to help me recently. I always have a good turnout. If you go through live thinking relationships are one way things, they'll be one way things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madelaine McMasters Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Muletta wrote: Venus Petrov wrote: I think the 'service' is negotiable. Perhaps the client wants a bit of small talk in a warm embrace, nothing more. Well, if so, it makes it even more difficult to understand for me, sorry...Because the paying woman can not be ignorant about, that the receiver of her small talk, is only thinking about the money he is earning, while he is only pretending some genuine interest in her welfare and her thoughts... There are people who provide services for money that actually do have genuine interest in the welfare of their customers. Therapists and bartenders perform some of the same services as escorts. They aren't all just thinking only about the money. And though we might find companionship for free, that's no guarantee our companions have genuine interest in our welfare. We have to sort through all that with our wits. ;-). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Torvalar Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Madelaine McMasters wrote: Muletta wrote: Venus Petrov wrote: I think the 'service' is negotiable. Perhaps the client wants a bit of small talk in a warm embrace, nothing more. Well, if so, it makes it even more difficult to understand for me, sorry...Because the paying woman can not be ignorant about, that the receiver of her small talk, is only thinking about the money he is earning, while he is only pretending some genuine interest in her welfare and her thoughts... There are people who provide services for money that actually do have genuine interest in the welfare of their customers. Therapists and bartenders perform some of the same services as escorts. They aren't all just thinking only about the money. And though we might find companionship for free, that's no guarantee our companions have genuine interest in our welfare. We have to sort through all that with our wits. ;-). ROFL Yes, they all say "Hello." in one form or another. Keep talking McMasters, you are a riot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muletta Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 Madelaine McMasters wrote: Muletta wrote: Venus Petrov wrote: I think the 'service' is negotiable. Perhaps the client wants a bit of small talk in a warm embrace, nothing more. Well, if so, it makes it even more difficult to understand for me, sorry...Because the paying woman can not be ignorant about, that the receiver of her small talk, is only thinking about the money he is earning, while he is only pretending some genuine interest in her welfare and her thoughts... There are people who provide services for money that actually do have genuine interest in the welfare of their customers. Therapists and bartenders perform some of the same services as escorts. They aren't all just thinking only about the money. And though we might find companionship for free, that's no guarantee our companions have genuine interest in our welfare. We have to sort through all that with our wits. ;-). Yes, of course such people also exist, I have known some myself, in real life. Some people, even though it is their paid job to make their customers feel good in their company, they as persons have a warm heart and a genuine interest in other people. But I also think, that there is a lot of pretending going on out there, in this virtual world, where it is more difficult to know, when the other persons is making his/her own little roleplay, or he/she is showing a genuine warm heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissTeriMahn Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Derek Torvalar wrote: Madelaine McMasters wrote: Muletta wrote: Venus Petrov wrote: I think the 'service' is negotiable. Perhaps the client wants a bit of small talk in a warm embrace, nothing more. Well, if so, it makes it even more difficult to understand for me, sorry...Because the paying woman can not be ignorant about, that the receiver of her small talk, is only thinking about the money he is earning, while he is only pretending some genuine interest in her welfare and her thoughts... There are people who provide services for money that actually do have genuine interest in the welfare of their customers. Therapists and bartenders perform some of the same services as escorts. They aren't all just thinking only about the money. And though we might find companionship for free, that's no guarantee our companions have genuine interest in our welfare. We have to sort through all that with our wits. ;-). ROFL Yes, they all say "Hello." in one form or another. Keep talking McMasters, you are a riot. Hey Derek, be fair, in the US most therapists screw their clients. Teri ((In a manner of speaking.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Torvalar Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 MissTeriMahn wrote: Derek Torvalar wrote: Madelaine McMasters wrote: Muletta wrote: Venus Petrov wrote: I think the 'service' is negotiable. Perhaps the client wants a bit of small talk in a warm embrace, nothing more. Well, if so, it makes it even more difficult to understand for me, sorry...Because the paying woman can not be ignorant about, that the receiver of her small talk, is only thinking about the money he is earning, while he is only pretending some genuine interest in her welfare and her thoughts... There are people who provide services for money that actually do have genuine interest in the welfare of their customers. Therapists and bartenders perform some of the same services as escorts. They aren't all just thinking only about the money. And though we might find companionship for free, that's no guarantee our companions have genuine interest in our welfare. We have to sort through all that with our wits. ;-). ROFL Yes, they all say "Hello." in one form or another. Keep talking McMasters, you are a riot. Hey Derek, be fair, in the US most therapists screw their clients. Teri ((In a manner of speaking.)) You know the difference between an escort and a lawyer don't you? The escort stops screwing you after your dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissTeriMahn Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Derek Torvalar wrote: MissTeriMahn wrote: Derek Torvalar wrote: Madelaine McMasters wrote: Muletta wrote: Venus Petrov wrote: I think the 'service' is negotiable. Perhaps the client wants a bit of small talk in a warm embrace, nothing more. Well, if so, it makes it even more difficult to understand for me, sorry...Because the paying woman can not be ignorant about, that the receiver of her small talk, is only thinking about the money he is earning, while he is only pretending some genuine interest in her welfare and her thoughts... There are people who provide services for money that actually do have genuine interest in the welfare of their customers. Therapists and bartenders perform some of the same services as escorts. They aren't all just thinking only about the money. And though we might find companionship for free, that's no guarantee our companions have genuine interest in our welfare. We have to sort through all that with our wits. ;-). ROFL Yes, they all say "Hello." in one form or another. Keep talking McMasters, you are a riot. Hey Derek, be fair, in the US most therapists screw their clients. Teri ((In a manner of speaking.)) You know the difference between an escort and a lawyer don't you? The escort stops screwing you after your dead. That's really tough on zombies. Teri ((Do insomnia therapists charge more if you fall asleep on the couch?)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheriColette Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Roche Runo wrote: As a former male escort myself maybe i can enlighten you The male escorts job is to entertain you. To be there for your every whim without question. You set the fantasy (and sometime where) Want a cop? A fireman? A Cowboy? and best of all no string attached. And it isnt just sex. There is coversation, laughter and some times we are just asked to hold them. Some of the payment goes to club where the escort works. ANd man the tips are usaylly in the 1000's But tipping is option hope i anwered your question I have one question about the tipping... so if its optional, can a guy work and not get paid at all? That seems tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus Petrov Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 CheriColette wrote: Roche Runo wrote: As a former male escort myself maybe i can enlighten you The male escorts job is to entertain you. To be there for your every whim without question. You set the fantasy (and sometime where) Want a cop? A fireman? A Cowboy? and best of all no string attached. And it isnt just sex. There is coversation, laughter and some times we are just asked to hold them. Some of the payment goes to club where the escort works. ANd man the tips are usaylly in the 1000's But tipping is option hope i anwered your question I have one question about the tipping... so if its optional, can a guy work and not get paid at all? That seems tough. I think the answer is in the bolded text above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhonda Huntress Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Muletta wrote: I recently saw an ad for male escort, and maybe this is a stupid question: Are there women in SL, that actually pay for such a "male service" ... and if yes, then why? Hi there. First off, welcome to the new milinium. I would not assume women are the only customers for male escorts. That said, for me I could see renting a date ... 1 - For the lulz 2 - No commitment. Like none. Seriously, I had a roll since my pet was not online but tommorow she's back and I'm done. 3 - Sure, the guy at the club said no commitment but why does he keep trying to talk to me again? See point 3. Freebies never go away. 4 - I need a 3rd for a scene. 5 - Seriously, no commitment. Our relationship is as close as a vending machine. I put in the money, pull the knob and then walk away after I got with what I wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrie Juran Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Rhonda Huntress wrote: Muletta wrote: I recently saw an ad for male escort, and maybe this is a stupid question: Are there women in SL, that actually pay for such a "male service" ... and if yes, then why? Hi there. First off, welcome to the new milinium. I would not assume women are the only customers for male escorts. That said, for me I could see renting a date ... 1 - For the lulz 2 - No commitment. Like none. Seriously, I had a roll since my pet was not online but tommorow she's back and I'm done. 3 - Sure, the guy at the club said no commitment but why does he keep trying to talk to me again? See point 3. Freebies never go away. 4 - I need a 3rd for a scene. 5 - Seriously, no commitment. Our relationship is as close as a vending machine. I put in the money, pull the knob and then walk away after I got with what I wanted. Which gets us back to the thing (my bolding above) you really pay a prostitute for: To leave when you are done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissTeriMahn Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Perrie Juran wrote: To leave when you are done. If only they put that in the marriage vows! Instead of til death do you part. Teri ((Then I wouldn't be serving this life sentence.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheriColette Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Isnt that called a 'pre nuptual' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roche Runo Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 If if you are working for some one then usually get 10 to 20 percent to help pay for tier If you are freelancing you get it all. If you are are working for free you are not an escort lol Though some escort will give thier tip back if the client has been exceptionally fun to be with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roche Runo Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 rofl pull the knob too funny love the wrap up lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roche Runo Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 nope lol you pay upfront would get ripped off a lot if the person paid after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muletta Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 Rhonda Huntress wrote: Muletta wrote: I recently saw an ad for male escort, and maybe this is a stupid question: Are there women in SL, that actually pay for such a "male service" ... and if yes, then why? Hi there. First off, welcome to the new milinium. I would not assume women are the only customers for male escorts. That said, for me I could see renting a date ... 1 - For the lulz 2 - No commitment. Like none. Seriously, I had a roll since my pet was not online but tommorow she's back and I'm done. 3 - Sure, the guy at the club said no commitment but why does he keep trying to talk to me again? See point 3. Freebies never go away. 4 - I need a 3rd for a scene. 5 - Seriously, no commitment. Our relationship is as close as a vending machine. I put in the money, pull the knob and then walk away after I got with what I wanted. Thank you for the welcome - and welcome back to SL. I see you have had a break, and have been missed. I think I have got some great answers to my questions (thank you all). If I should make a short conclusion, it would be like this: Some women pay male escorts for to lend them a warm caring heart with big ears...and some pay the males because they like the feeling to be able to just leave the "vendor" when they have pulled the knob. Oh, yes, and then there is the fireman, cowboy and cop option...Mmmmm... I am still wondering if there is a Kevin Costner-like option too, and casts a hopeful glance to my piggy bank... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake1 Nightfire Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Muletta wrote: Rhonda Huntress wrote: Muletta wrote: I recently saw an ad for male escort, and maybe this is a stupid question: Are there women in SL, that actually pay for such a "male service" ... and if yes, then why? Hi there. First off, welcome to the new milinium. I would not assume women are the only customers for male escorts. That said, for me I could see renting a date ... 1 - For the lulz 2 - No commitment. Like none. Seriously, I had a roll since my pet was not online but tommorow she's back and I'm done. 3 - Sure, the guy at the club said no commitment but why does he keep trying to talk to me again? See point 3. Freebies never go away. 4 - I need a 3rd for a scene. 5 - Seriously, no commitment. Our relationship is as close as a vending machine. I put in the money, pull the knob and then walk away after I got with what I wanted. Thank you for the welcome - and welcome back to SL. I see you have had a break, and have been missed. I think I have got some great answers to my questions (thank you all). If I should make a short conclusion, it would be like this: Some women pay male escorts for to lend them a warm caring heart with big ears...and some pay the males because they like the feeling to be able to just leave the "vendor" when they have pulled the knob. Oh, yes, and then there is the fireman, cowboy and cop option...Mmmmm... I am still wondering if there is a Kevin Costner-like option too, and casts a hopeful glance to my piggy bank... I think i have a Civil War uniform somewhere.. Or would you prefer Robin Hood or The Postman? I was an escort a while ago at a very very popular club. we got 75% plus tips, Some nights the tips were 5-10K. We had one woman that wanted a threesome, every week. She didn't want small talk, or sexy talk. just clicking of Xcite parts.. We never understood it but whatever made her happy. I have had requests for: Elves, Drow, Minotaur, Dragonman, Lycan, Demon, Merman (I had to buy that one), DP (please don't ask), Vampire and even one woman wanted to be eaten, like literally. She was probably the oddest one. Very nice lady but odd. Sadly the club owner got sick in RL and had to close it. I have yet to meet an escort that gave back a tip because the client was fun to be with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheriColette Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I just had to look up what DP might be ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake1 Nightfire Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 CheriColette wrote: I just had to look up what DP might be ..... I had to get very creative with that request... Seeing as she only wanted one male. Demon av to the rescue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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