CaptainJack Grauman Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 At http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Lordshore/8/249/53 I found a Stargate. (I currently watch Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis on television.) About how many Stargates are there in SL? I once walked through a SL Stargate and was randomly teleported; but can I program it to jump me to any desired place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monti Messmer Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Hello, if my memories aren´t too blurry they tried to put the all over SL, with the help of Landlords or Landowners(renters). Then there was an incident about copyright and the plans where dropped. The few locations i knew they have/had one, removed it. I am all for protect stuff but sometimes they shoot over the target, just my thought. You could have them set for random teleport or use adress, like any other TP item. Monti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeromia Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 It used to be a whole network of systems. It permenantly died a few months back. http://community.secondlife.com/t5/General-Discussion-Forum/Alteran-Stargate-Network-ASN-Shut-Down/td-p/2749732 https://my.secondlife.com/groups/7472ca34-ac0a-7e76-ebd7-4ec18b94adfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qie Niangao Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Ah, thanks, I thought I remembered something like that. Incidentally, Experience Tools functionality (now in beta) makes the old stargates obsolete, both in the way users experience them and in how they're implemented. Besides llTeleportAgent really working finally, there's no longer any reason for simple systems to depend on external servers, which is what killed the old stargates. (If there's anything we've learned over the years, it's that the greatest vulnerability for any scripted system is to depend on an external server for anything.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethelwine Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Alteran aren't the only stargates. If it is a Novatech one then they still work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethelwine Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Qie, I am interested to know more about teleports being broken. Do you have a link or know anything about what systems it will affect as I have a few teleportation systems and tardises I use to get around the grid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qie Niangao Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Oh, I think there's some miscommunication here, sorry. It's not that some teleports will suddenly be broken, but rather that scripts relying on external servers only last as long as those external servers stay up, and historically that has killed them all, sooner or later, and that's what killed off the Stargate network that went away. The really good news that comes with the new Experience Tools is that there's rarely any excuse for using external servers anymore. So that's what I meant by "obsolete" -- they're just absurdly kludgy compared to the new alternative. (A couple exceptions unrelated to teleportation: Scripts will still need external servers for large numbers of records or extensive processing such as AI, or even basic SQL queries). All that said, there are some older teleportation scripts that are pretty vulnerable. Anything using warpPos or jumpPos hacks within a region really has long needed replacing with llSetRegionPos(), for efficiency if nothing else. Also, if the user agrees to an Experience, they can now just walk through a portal into a destination anywhere on the grid (with the usual viewer screen-blanking effects) using llTeleportAgent(), which is way more natural than the old llMapDestination() for grid-wide teleports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethelwine Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Qie Niangao wrote: Oh, I think there's some miscommunication here, sorry. It's not that some teleports will suddenly be broken, but rather that scripts relying on external servers only last as long as those external servers stay up, and historically that has killed them all, sooner or later, and that's what killed off the Stargate network that went away. The really good news that comes with the new Experience Tools is that there's rarely any excuse for using external servers anymore. So that's what I meant by "obsolete" -- they're just absurdly kludgy compared to the new alternative. (A couple exceptions unrelated to teleportation: Scripts will still need external servers for large numbers of records or extensive processing such as AI, or even basic SQL queries). All that said, there are some older teleportation scripts that are pretty vulnerable. Anything using warpPos or jumpPos hacks within a region really has long needed replacing with llSetRegionPos(), for efficiency if nothing else. Also, if the user agrees to an Experience, they can now just walk through a portal into a destination anywhere on the grid (with the usual viewer screen-blanking effects) using llTeleportAgent(), which is way more natural than the old llMapDestination() for grid-wide teleports. Thanks for clarifying. After posting my question and re-reading what you had put, I thought perhaps you meant obsolete in that external databases no longer necessary. But left my question as it was because the clarity you provided is helpful. I had wondered how one of my tardises was doing automatic teleporting, like you describe (I think NLS from memory but might be HoO), while on Novatech's I need to have rlv turned on, on the hud for similar effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavarek Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) ASN does still work. Goto Subnova to get a gate OR request off webpage at https://www.alpha-fox.com/asn/get/. You can dial from any current version gates menu , enter walk past ramp where sign to get a gate. Novatech ones are a bit different, are grid wide or can be set to your private network between places. It is a Pegasus gate, even though I have redone mine to be a Milkway gate. Not as animated as the ASN gates that you /sgc L:OCATION NAME for animated show version or use speed dial version or just /d LOCATION for faster DHD dial. I use Novatech for Bellisseria side of Bellisseria Roleplay to take members to our private land for farming, mining, gcs combat at the pyramid, and Club Anubis. There is also an ASN gate in the Egyptian palace near the Novatech one. ASN GET A FREE GATES PACK LOCATION: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Eternal Calm/128/146/3105 ADD ON EXPERIENCE FOR ASN GATES AUTO TP: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/DbyC-ASN-Gate-SL-Experience-Auto-Teleporter/17488069 THIS WILL BE REZZED AND PLACED JUST BEHIND YOUR GATE. Add Skeleton Key experience to parcel. IT make it auto tp when you walk through horizon. (after accepting experience) Common popular locations. Egypt / SGC / Atlantis / Midway /d random to dial a random /sgc NAME is slower show dialing. THer is also carters speed dial one, also part of the SGC computer system you can get at Subnova. You can see both types at our Egypt gate spot http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Prohibition/217/228/22 If you need help with either I will be glad to explain them. Edited February 22, 2023 by Kavarek 1 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmoe Whitfield Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 8 years later, dude watch the dates on topics, make a new thread if you got new information as most information is dated this far back. 2 4 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavarek Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) On 2/23/2023 at 12:20 AM, bigmoe Whitfield said: 8 years later, dude watch the dates on topics, make a new thread if you got new information as most information is dated this far back. Date is irrelevant nor is creating a NEW POST needed (redundant) for posting updated information at the end of existing posts when it is searched (the 2 main post regarding it). Keep that in mind before commenting. TIP to learn something : Many follow keyword posts. There are 2 primary posts regarding the ASN alternan networks with incorrect information. I have updated it so this will clarify those searches with no need to create another additional post post in the forums with further confusion. The topic says the network is down, when in fact it is not, and moved to a new server. Now when people search and see this post they will have CORRECT information - not outdated INFORMATION. Keep forums neat and clean without redundant posts on search information. That is also stated in Forum use. Novatech type was also shared There has been a revitalization of Stargate RP areas that we ran many years ago. So therefor information in case of search, as pointed out to us by others seeing this, has now been updated. ASN GET A FREE GATES PACK LOCATION: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Eternal Calm/128/146/3105 ASN Website Gate request: https://www.alpha-fox.com/asn/get/ Lead Gate addresses: Egypt / Goa'uld / SGC / Atlantis / Q'tesh / Vagonbrei (new RP outposts will be listed soon) Edited February 25, 2023 by Kavarek 1 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemLordAnubis Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Kavarek said: Date is irrelevant nor is creating a NEW POST needed (redundant) for posting updated information at the end of existing posts when it is searched (the 2 main post regarding it). Keep that in mind before commenting. TIP to learn something : Many follow keyword posts. There are 2 primary posts regarding the ASN alternan networks with incorrect information. I have updated it so this will clarify those searches with no need to create another additional post post in the forums with further confusion. The topic says the network is down, when in fact it is not an moved to a new server. Now when people search and see this post they will have CORRECT information - not outdated INFORMATION. Keep forums neat and clean without redundant posts on search information. That is also stated in Forum use. There has be a revitalization of Stargate RP areas that we ran many years ago. So therefor information in case of search, as pointed out to us by others seeing this, has now been updated. ASN GET A FREE GATES PACK LOCATION: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Eternal Calm/128/146/3105 ASN Website Gate request: https://www.alpha-fox.com/asn/get/ Lead Gate addresses: Egypt / Goa'uld / SGC / Atlantis / Q'tesh / Vagonbrei (new RP outposts will be listed soon) Thanks for the update! Rejoined the groups. Miss it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmoe Whitfield Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 36 minutes ago, Kavarek said: Date is irrelevant nor is creating a NEW POST needed (redundant) for posting updated information at the end of existing posts when it is searched (the 2 main post regarding it). Keep that in mind before commenting. 8 years is a dead topic. that's all there is for me to say about that. Have fun. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 1 hour ago, bigmoe Whitfield said: 8 years is a dead topic. that's all there is for me to say about that. Have fun. Look at all those Thank You reactions from brand new to the forums accounts who all logged in and posted at the same time! That's not suspect at all! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Is this an ad? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Pancake Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 If its an ad for a working stargate that isn't made from an obscene number of PRIMS I sure am interested ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 I think Novatech is familiar, I buy their scene rezzers. Seems more like an ad for "ASN". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Pancake Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said: If its an ad for a working stargate that isn't made from an obscene number of PRIMS I sure am interested ... I just checked and ... You want stargate RP?? 125 Li is not how you get stargate RP. I love stargate and am rewatching it right now with my SO. Stone cold serious. 134 Li .. for this one. You're killing me. 32 .. That's a whole room's li allowance. 24 at the lowest .. for this basic thing ? I used to have a busy location on Qetesh's RLV Stargate network back when I had a full region to play with, and even then I stripped this mess down to a few prim. We need mesh gates that are better looking and lower far lower Li. We also need a script kit so we can build our own working gates with minimal fuss. It would be nice if that script kit used modern features like llSetLinkPrimitiveParamsFast rather than a script in every single active element. The Milkway gate lists as 2624kb of script memory, the "lightweight" forerunner is 1280kb .. yes I know how mono script memory works, my point is does a stargate REALLY need to be 41 scripts ?!! If you're serious about SG RP in SL .. this all needs to change, because right now .. no one can afford to build locations to visit with these gates. Edited February 26, 2023 by Coffee Pancake wrong picture for last gate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 I'm sure the Bellisseria neighbors love it! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said: I just checked and ... You want stargate RP?? 125 Li is not how you get stargate RP. I love stargate and am rewatching it right now with my SO. Stone cold serious. 134 Li .. for this one. You're killing me. 32 .. That's a whole room's li allowance. 24 at the lowest .. for this basic thing ? I used to have a busy location on Qetesh's RLV Stargate network back when I had a full region to play with, and even then I stripped this mess down to a few prim. We need mesh gates that are better looking and lower far lower Li. We also need a script kit so we can build our own working gates with minimal fuss. It would be nice if that script kit used modern features like llSetLinkPrimitiveParamsFast rather than a script in every single active element. The Milkway gate lists as 2624kb of script memory, the "lightweight" forerunner is 1280kb .. yes I know how mono script memory works, my point is does a stargate REALLY need to be 41 scripts ?!! If you're serious about SG RP in SL .. this all needs to change, because right now .. no one can afford to build locations to visit with these gates. Just curious, did you check the NovaTech stargate for comparison in LI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Pancake Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: Just curious, did you check the NovaTech stargate for comparison in LI? 20 - 42 according to their slm page .. but thats a different gate and afaik , doesn't work with the main SG network .. It's also old as dirt and hasn't been updated or refreshed in years. It's all prim. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Coffee Pancake said: 20 - 42 according to their slm page .. but thats a different gate and afaik , doesn't work with the main SG network .. It's also old as dirt and hasn't been updated or refreshed in years. It's all prim. That's a shame, I like NovaTech. They are an active company with active support. I never tried any StarGates of any company. Are they "fun" to use? Seems like they would be an eyesore scattered someplace like Bellisserria..as @Rowan Amorementioned. Who has that much extra LI in Linden homes?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: That's a shame, I like NovaTech. They are an active company with active support. I never tried any StarGates of any company. Are they "fun" to use? Seems like they would be an eyesore scattered someplace like Bellisserria..as @Rowan Amorementioned. Who has that much extra LI in Linden homes?!? Fanatik has one that's mesh and would actually look great in the Fantasy linden home areas... https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/FANATIK-Zodiac-Portal-grid-wide-experience-teleporter-mesh-with-materials/21792113 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Pancake Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 27 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: Are they "fun" to use? Yes, .. although the only really active part of the network is the RLV locations. Click a vendor for the destination, the gate does it's thing, walk in, get teleported and appear out of an active gate at the other end. It's less RP than the main network as there is no DHD or someone shouting out the chevrons as they lock .. but whatever. The whole 'using a network of portals to get about' fits SL very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said: Yes, .. although the only really active part of the network is the RLV locations. Click a vendor for the destination, the gate does it's thing, walk in, get teleported and appear out of an active gate at the other end. It's less RP than the main network as there is no DHD or someone shouting out the chevrons as they lock .. but whatever. The whole 'using a network of portals to get about' fits SL very well. With PBR, it will be cool when we have portals that are "mirrors" you can "step through"! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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