Pussycat Catnap

Paladin Pinion wrote: Kasya Sciavo wrote: Then I consider it most prudent for you to convince LL to ban all such prim heavy things at once. They should not allow the sale of any such things if that is - which of course it is not - the sole cause of lag in SL. They won't ban what you can buy, but I understand the plan is to limit script usage per avatar as soon as the proper tools are in place. Better go shopping for low-lag stuff. Object have been deleted from the grid and asset server before. But its rare outside of copybotting (itself I suspect much rarer than paranoia tends to claim). But in this case it is much more likely than when script limits finally hit, if ever (sigh, was supposed to hit a YEAR AGO), a lot of those badly made scripts will just cease to work - leaving all the malicious or idiotic builders who've been peddling them facing a mass of support requests from very angry buyers... while the rest of the builders - who frankly often make better looking goods anyway - just laugh and announce discount sales for new converts. And I'm not so much kidding that the responsible builders not causing this problem also tend to have better looking or better quality builds. People who take the time to learn how to do it right tend to do a better job. Shop around more, and you can easily find good low lag product that is very often better looking and more feature rich than the crap that many have been sold a 'bill of goods' for. My neko kit - with animated ears and tail, AO, and flight feather all worn and moving about - and fully dressed, has me using less than 300kbs of script memory. My furry though is a bit bigger than I'd expected. When fully decked out with all my getup in my furry setup, I'm just under 2mbs total. Half of that in my jaw to move it in sync with my typing. That surprised me - some other furries I have come under 1mb, but I do have one that shoots up to 5. But before I landed on a good builder... lets just say that there are items in my inventory that can make me a walking 15mb sim-killer avatar, and that's still mild compared to what I've seen in some places...

Penny Patton wrote: While I agree with the sentiments about scripts (avoid no-mod attachments with re-sizer scripts, they are a plague), it's also just a fact that if there are a lot of people in a sim, even wearing no attachments, scripted or otherwise, the sim will get laggy. The overuse of scripts just makes it worse. Actually, my understanding of it is that scripts do not contribute to the particular type of lag where the whole sim seems to slow down. Modern furry avatars tend to be fairly low on scripts, and high on sculpties. I've been to furry clubs with all 40 possible people, and on estate land been to one with over 60 - and not felt a drop of lag. But its very rare for me to be able to enter any human club and not get hit with severe lag. Furries just tend to be forced to opt for mod hair so they can fit it on their heads.

Dogboat Taurog wrote: griefing is ony griefing when LL says it is You could do well to listen to your own words there. If the shop has a rental script or rental info yeah, then that's kind of evidence that the squatter isn't a squatter. And this is trivial to find out. If its lacking, then a spade is a spade. An example for me just happened inworld yesterday. I saw 'obvious squatters' setting up on some rental land. I IM'd the rental agency. Guess who was right? It doesn't take a genius to spot the difference between a renter and a squatter. That rental lot is now empty again, and the rental agency changed the perms on its lot to prevent getting ripped off again - and thanked me.

Persephone Emerald wrote: Try suggesting stores that have removable scripts & put a script counting board into your club, so everyone will know who the script hogs are. (My roommate says several fighting groups do this, because lag is even more annoying for fighters than it is for dance clubs.) So the links you made are for personal ones. Where can we get the board to put up in public and shame people?

Imnotgoing Sideways wrote: And, sooooo many people (myself included) have written 1-script resizers. Why ain't anyone using them yet? () My free linkset resizer sells pretty well. But it isn't selling fast enough and some of the merchants who put out this crap and caused all the lag we now today think of as normal in SL feel the same sense of entitlement as those breedable pet fans feel... Its their right to lag SL to death, and screw everyone else... screw even themselves when they lag their own connections off the grid... SL needs to to become magical and do things no machine in the real universe can do so they can get away with it... - read some complaints from these people, its that delusional.

Peewee Musytari wrote: Doesn`t everyone know this yet? lol A lot of people know it, but feel that SL should refuse to be laggy because its their right to wear anything they bought and SL just needs to violate the rules of Computer Science and get with it. You can't name the store here, but you can name it on other SL sites, and you can go AR it for abuse of sim resources. AR the hair anytime you see it worn... And you can tell me privately and I'll put it in a blog post.

Dogboat Taurog wrote: lets not forget they are alleged squatters. before the keystone cops start griefing. oh they have done already... Person's not the landowner and not in the landowner's group rezzed on the landowner's land. That's pretty cut and dry. This is established not only from seeing who owns the land - but also by their failure to remove the prim placed on the land. But you've got one thing right. It is griefing. Building on land you don't own is griefing both the landowner and those nearby. I would say its not griefing to fill up prims however if done non-visibly, as you're not leaving clutter or causing a sim-resource drain. AR the squatters and fill up the emtpy prims to prevent future griefers from setting up shop.

If you stop by my newbie help location I've got a notecard with landmarks to a lot of handy places for new users: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Isabel/109/148/81 And I -might- have some good shopping help in my getting started guide, though its more about getting to the point where you're ready to go shopping: http://catnapkitty.wordpress.com/2010/08/08/getting-started-in-second-life/ But what you need is basically an AO, a skin, hair, shoes, and 5 outfits to get looking good in SL. I just put a short blog post together on that, but have yet to fix it up with more than a few landmarks: http://catnapkitty.wordpress.com/2011/06/05/second-life-on-the-cheap-getting-kitted-out-for-as-little-as-possible/ - The idea here is to get a great and ready to go looking avatar for about $10 USA. (It can be done for less on freebies, but I think its better to just jump in and buy good stuff). Another tip: When I was new I would ask people I saw where they got things, all the time. Or I would inspect them - click on the item they're wearing and view its properties, get the name of the creator, and search for that person - look for their shop in their Picks, and go. When asked, some people will be rude and all "this is my look so bug off ya noob." Most will answer with the name of the maker and maybe shop landmarks. Some will go nuts like me and give you all kinds of tips and sometimes when not busy even offer to go shopping with you. (I always find it fun to run around with a noobie who's actually willing to go buy stuff for themselves. And I know several people who are just like me in this regard, albeit lacking my other flaws ).

Today I've been exploring one of those places on mainland that's been there forever which I'd never bothered to look at before despite hearing about so many times. I'm wearing my Lion of Judah knee-shorts and a Jah-Love v-Strat blouse. Made by me. Finally opened the clothing end of my shop - though I'm very new to making clothes. My neko kit is from AnthroXtacy - its the black kit btw, recolored by me (very easy to do btw, but I recommend doing it with the white kit if you want more color variety than I'm able to get. I bought tan (so pale its almost like the white) for an alt a few days after getting black and found it easier to deal with). Hair by Jonah Dreads, recolored by me. Eyes from a place that is no longer around that used to be called 'Naughty Pussycat' - the shop owner moved to Zindra and changed product lines. I couldn't even find a corner in the current shop for old neko products when I went looking a few days ago. Skin is from a place called Pixel Paws. The best neko skins in SL in my opinion. I've had this skin since I had my old avatar... buying it twice despite the cost of a skin being severe sticker shock for me back when I was first transitioning off of freebies (in fact I think this skin was the final push for me to realize I'd prefer buying a little quality over having a lot of... well, you know... though some of the freebies I got were quite good. ). Pose is by Ran Peccable - bought a whole stack of her poses the other day on a mad whim, so I could take cuter snapsots.

Tingting Drammond wrote: the owner is always not online...,but he opened other residents to build Ah, this seems to make it make sense to me. 1. Somebody rezzed something on land near you. Not on your land. Its just so big that it also covers your land. ps: If english isn't your first language. Post a full explaination in your native language as well. We've all got access to google translations - they're not perfect, but can help. I suggest you get some friends to come by and click the object to report it as well. It helps the Lindens notice it seems, when several ARs come in from the same location.

Cartoons vs. cartoons, far as know. Seems like the difference between death metal and heavy metal - which I can't tell apart. But since there's apparantly some actual difference, one should assume that the linden who made the mistake of grouping them is, like me, not a part of this particular subculture and not aware of it. In which case I guess educate them with specifics of where each does belong and why.

Above water it just looks like a little platform in one of the lakes. A hidden dorr inside of it and suddenly you're in this complex. I think the spider was 38 prims or something... only reason I never used him myself. I think the sim names was Frodes.

If you have the prim space to rez it, there is a pet spider available for free if you can find it hidden on some linden park builds on mainland and zindra. Last saw it in the giant underground complex reached through the reservoir in Zindra.

Osprey Therian wrote: Why is Machinima put with Animation? That makes no sense at all. They're not the same thing?

Start by trying Caledon and Babbage.

Melita Magic wrote: /me puts out a plea to anyone thinking of abandoning their land: Please, set the Object return to 1 or higher first. Abandonment flips the toggle to 0 as the post below yours noted. The solution is to set no build and no entry before abandoning. The other solution is a support ticket. Lindens will come by and set an auto-return if asked to.

Marigold Devin wrote: No, I know it's not against ToS to be a frankenbarbie (great word for it btw), but I still don't have to like it. The term has been around since this kind of attack against small avatars started. A frankenbarbie is just a word for the kind of avatar that usually launches the attack: one of those giant 7-foot + tall pimped out super boobed avatars. I think you're getting the term backwards right up there... Since the term applies mostly to your own side of thise debate.

Marigold Devin wrote: Imnotgoing Sideways wrote: Marigold Devin wrote: I get so annoyed with people who complain about amazonian avatars. Amazonian size IS the scale in SL. Just like Barbie is the scale she is, she fits her car, she fits her house, etc. Buildings are taller in SL, avatars are to their own scale. Whereas I get annoyed that people are in denial that a meter is a meter. If things were supposed to be out of scale, they should have been called Slilimeters, or something. (=_=) And that's just the crux of it. So often those playing small are playing out being the victim. "I'm 5'2" in RL, I'm 5'2" in SL, I'm not a kid, I'm age verified" said one, 5 pages of this rant by your frankenbarbie side and you claim the small folks are 'playing out the victim'? Who launched the first shot here? There's a non-issue here, save for people with a complex against short AVs.

Carole Franizzi wrote: I'd seen by page 2 of this thread that it was impossible to have a civil, half-intelligent discussion, since the more I wrote that I was referring to hypersexualised child avies in sex sims, the more many posters replied talking about witch-hunts against poor innocent child-avies trying to have nice clean SL fun. All completely irrevelevant to the discussion. Hence I decided not to reply anymore (utter waste of time and energy) - HOWEVER - the crass stupidity of the above remark to Marigold takes the biscuit and I feel, since it was my thread, that the above sort of not-very-subtle abuse shouldn't go unnoted. No. We object to you calling anybody who is not giant sized a lolita pushing some 'age-play' boundary. NOT being some giant frankenbarbie does not mean you're a child, nor a 'child-boundary-pusher.' Its the giant frankenbarbies who've got issues here, if anyone. At least the few of them who keep up with this misdirected attack against normal avatars.

Nothing says it will get listened to, but ahead and file an AR and a support ticket. In both simply ask the lindens to set an auto-return. And I have seen lindens come by and clean up junk that was put there by a non-owner on a lot of an absentee owner. They will do it if they can be sure the junk is not owned by a landowner. And sometimes even if it is if its causing trouble or the owner has been away long enough. Failing that - your friend might just have to consider moving... But I would also very quickly fill up the lot with its full allowance of prims. Using blank prims in the sky or just under ground (way out of sight either way), and name them as filler prims to prevent griefing. PS: As Qie said there is a lot of abandoned land that failed to get abandoned. Users left SL and are no longer paying but the land remains in name. Filing support tickets as I describe above had gotten some of it set to abandon, auction, or direct sale to me in past. And as long as you put filler prims out of sight, you're not griefing anyone. Its a good tactic to use on any land on mainland with open perms and no auto-return. As for actually abandoned land - lindens will set it to auto-return and remove banlines on it if made aware of it.

Marigold Devin wrote: Carole Franizzi wrote: Melita, I'm not in a position to ban anyone as I don't have land. In theory I could report. In practice, I'd spend a good part of my time in SL typing out reports as I'm seeing them more and more. Its not a ToS violation to not be a frankenbarbie. Marigold Devin wrote: As Cabbage said, people will try and push the boundaries. I've also noticed and noted this ever-growing popularity for "legal teen" looking avatars all over the place. In one club I visited last week, there were 7, looked like they had been cloned from one brain cell, similar hairstyle in "cute" schoolgirl style of being tied, and way shorter than the SL average avatar. And while I'm on the subject of "to scale". I get so annoyed with people who complain about amazonian avatars. Amazonian size IS the scale in SL. Just like Barbie is the scale she is, she fits her car, she fits her house, etc. Buildings are taller in SL, avatars are to their own scale. The only difference I've seen is that some of the frankenbarbies have gotten shorter. They're still wearing the same **bleep** wear they were wearing Tuesday at 12:35... they've just gone from being James Cameron Avatar scale to noticing that value on the prim with the label 'meter' next to it. Marigold Devin wrote: And so, the "legal teen" brigade make themselves as small and as child-looking as possible, and shoot me down, So... that's what's going on with your rant. If you think they're child AVs and not adults, why are you hitting on them in the first place?

Darrius Gothly wrote: But this also leads my thoughts to a slightly divergent topic .. the money paid to "absent merchants". Let's do a little math. There are roughly 50,000 merchants listed on Marketplace today. If we assume 20% of those have dropped out of sight and are no longer active, that's 10,000 merchants. A very simple solution to this would be to delist any item that cannot be found inworld to be delivered. Perform the check anytime someone views the individual listing for the item. Ie: Pre-queue the item for delivery, if unable to find it in one of the merchant's magic boxes, delist it and shift the user off of that webpage. If a merchant's magic box can't be located for more than an hour - make their entire product line innactive. But do it in an automated 'hide' so that if a magic box appears, part of rezzing that box would be to 'unhide' all those items inside of it. - Simple database tricks could both of these with not too much hassle on the servers. As for people who rez a magic box somewhere with no auto-return and then leave SL... why care? If the box is still there people are still getting goods delivered.

VonGklugelstein Alter wrote: All free items should have a high listing fee because they have no justification on a money driven marketplace. So in other words you're anti-capitalist, since you want a protectionist trade scheme. SOCIALIST! Ok, silliness aside... One of the things about a 'competition model' market is having to compete even with the person who charges nothing. It gives you incentive to better than them. And the larger SL is not a market-experiment. Its a community-experiment. The market only exists to supply goods that further enable the community. The market could go away right now - the ability to sell anything in SL could just get zapped. And SL would not be dead. But if you zap the community of users - there is no place or person to market to. This notion that some merchants have that everything has to be tailored to some for-profit model is not some inherent 'right' - its a by-product of a system that lets everyone make the choice of how they will be a part of the community.

Eileen Fellstein wrote: The problem is - cute domesticated animals. No one wants them harmed. No one would take issue if I were to breed for instance - GIANT TARANTULAS! ...and make them huntable. (I've had one as a pet in RL BTW, though it was normal sized. Very few have the capacity to love such critters) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider_Grandmother I've had an admiration for spider ever since a dream as a child where a giant motherly spider saved me from a monster. Which was years before I was aware of Grandmother Spider. They still freak me out - so its kind a of two-sided coin.

Eileen Fellstein wrote: Well, I don't share my personal RL info on the net but I can tell you this... In the year 2000, there were over 80,000 strays in the metro Detroit area alone. That's not including ones in foster homes and places like anti-cruelty, Humane society and greyhound rescue. I can only imagine that statistic has climbed drastically rather than decreasd. For those that have the option, I encourage anyone to consider giving a home to a real animal rather than a virtual one if your choice is one or the other. They will love you forever. Here in San Francisco feral pets, mostly cats, have gotten so bad in numbers that several of our native bird species are on the verge of extenction. I'm just waiting for the government to come in declare the quail here protected, and then start frying all the cats in the park... But we've got too man darned hippies (hey wait I'm a darned hippie) that scream bloody murder any time anyone goes near those cats. Ok so yeah, I'm a darned hippie, but when it comes to cats vs. native wildlife... give me the microwave and I'll put the cats in it myself (and if it isn't obvious from my avatar, I love cats... but when a choice has to made...). BUT, if people would take those cats in and keep them in... as you suggest, that problem and conflict wouldn't exist. Um, oh and yeah... breedable pets... sigh... annoying pyramid scheme laggy toy... That said I've got a neighbor who must have a good 100 horses on their lot - stacked at varying heights... They were trying to sell one of them for 131-million lindens; but I haven't been able to find that one for a week.