Theresa Tennyson

EvaFord wrote: Do you think that being a DJ is a SL business for making money ? When I am being asked repeatedly to tip , is it ok to ask if I am tipping the DJ's ALT? I have several alts and in many ways I treat them as separate "people" that do different things. They have different wardrobes, looks, hobbies and expenses. They're all partly "me" but partly individuals as well (I'm in the theatre in RL so characterization comes naturally to me.) I try to have each one stay "in character" because that's how I prefer to approach things. Avatars have separate inventories that they generally cannot share with each other. Skins, hair, clothing, vehicles, houses, etc. can almost never be used for more than one account. Being a DJ in SL is a business for SUPPORTING AN AVATAR. I know what sort of "income" a SL DJ has, even one that's quite popular among a certain set. It's enough to support an avatar in real style, but as far as real-world income its trivial - not even worth cashing out, realistically. If I see two avatars at a club that are behaving in a way that entertains me, I would be glad to assist in supporting both of them. I don't see why it's such a problem if they both happen to be "owned" by the same person.

There should have been an object in the folder with your wolf parts that will change your posture and movement from human to wolf-y. It will show up in your inventory as an orange cube and will probably say something like "AO" or "Deformer." It won't be something visible like a body part but it will probably show up as a display on your screen. Also, if you use any OTHER "animation overrider" for when you're the non-wolf avatar you need to take that OFF. You can save different outfits for the different avatars that will automatically attach and detach the right pieces once you get everything sorted out.

EvaFord wrote: "And if your going to say, I know someone that knows someone that knows a person that knows the DJ, then... Don't, that's just silly." No, you are right, that is just silly and is not my proof.. But if I post how I know this is a fact, then I will inadvertently give the identity of the DJ away and I will not do that in this forum. We do not agree on the Ethics of this issue and that is ok. I do not have an axe to grind here nor expect this issue to be solved at this moment. As a former club owner, I do think I have a responsibility to my guests and patrons to keep their best interest foremost and if I am paying for two people, I think it is only fair that I get two people not one person dividing time. Sort of like double dipping . I have tried to respond to each person who took the time to write. I might have missed few. But thank you for posting. You could certainly tell us HOW you determined the two avatars were alts of the same person without giving us any distinguishing information. It's pretty easy to selectively hold back information. LIke how in an earlier post to this you simply said, "If I WAS to hire a DJ" as if you'd never actually had an opportunity to do it, in this post you say you're a former club owner who obviously WOULD have had opportunities to hire DJ"s, and in a later post you state that you actually DID hire this person. It's also easy to make things up to try to improve ones argument, of course, but that's a completely different topic. I have to say you're exceptionally tidy for a former club owner. The club owners and promoters I know (and I know a few of them) have information about their clubs in their profile and picks, as well as multiple administrative groups listed for them, and few people bother to clean up old information from their profiles after a project goes belly-up. However, YOUR profile is empty except for a statement that :"SL is RL" and three groups, none of which are club administrative groups. Of course you could be the ALT of a former club owner and haven't disclosed this fact.

EvaFord wrote: How do you chat with people who shop in Market Place? Do ask people for tips? I see a DJ as selling a Service to a venue and a store owner sells a retail product. Am I wrong? If I can assume the information my DJ friend tells me is typical, most DJ's aren't actually hired by the venue - they work for tips and often are expected to pay the owner of the club for an opportunity to play rather than the other way around.

EvaFord wrote: If you were at a restaurant and you waiter brought your food and then changed into a different coat and brought you bread would you tip him twice? Probably not. If he brought me my food and then performed music while I was eating I'd certainly tiip him more though, providing both his table service and musicianship were good enough.

EvaFord wrote: EXACTLY. And they have different rules and you can offer information publically , under certain circumstances,about them with out fear of being sued. This information SUPPORTS my argument. Guess you didn't understand it. It is complex. Oh no, I understood it perfectly. "EvaFord is always right," And if EvaFord thinks that a DJ in an imaginary club is someone who has "thrust themselves to the forefront of particular public controversies in order to influence the resolution of the issues involved", we all can just keep nodding our heads and smiling.

EvaFord wrote: There already is a definition of Public Figure in real world Law. Read it. And I konw that LL does listen to the concerns of residents. And this is a Major concern not an isolated incident. I do like your suggestion of Scam Detective ! Unfortunately for your line of argument, I already did: PUBLIC FIGURE A term usually used in the context of libel and defamation actions where the standards of proof are higher if the party claiming defamation is a public figure and therefore has to prove defamatory statements were made with actual malice. Harte-Hanks Communications v. Connaughton (1989) 491 U.S. 657, 666-668. The "public figure" issue is not cut and dried. To begin with, a fairly high threshold of public activity is necessary to elevate a person to public figure status, Brown v. Kelly Broadcasting Co. (1989) 48 Cal.3d 711, 745, and, as to those who are not pervasively involved in public affairs, they must have "thrust themselves to the forefront of particular public controversies in order to influence the resolution of the issues involved" to be considered a "limited purpose" public figure. Gertz v. Robert Welch, Inc. (1974) 418 U.S. 323, 345. A "particularized determination" is required to decide whether a person is a limited purpose public figure, Bruno & Stillman, Inc. v. Globe Newspaper Co. (1st Cir. 1980) 633 F.2d 583, 589, a standard ensuring that reasonable minds may differ on this subject. Advertisements themselves are not usually sufficient to transform someone into a public figure. Vegod Corp. v. American Broadcasting Companies, Inc. (1979) 25 Cal.3d 763, 770 [a person in the business world advertising his wares does not necessarily become part of an existing public controversy]; Rancho La Costa, Inc. v. Superior Court (1980) 106 Cal.App.3d 646, 661 [advertising is not thrusting oneself into the vortex of a controversy].

There are a lot of minor things you do that affect the pathfinding setup of your sim, but they don't affect anything else. If you don't have any pathfinding characters you can ignore it. (We TOLD them to do something about that button.... *sigh*)

EvaFord wrote: There is a DJ in SL who uses an Alt as his Hostess/Partner. He claims "She" is voice verified implying that this ALT is female. He even made a fake first life profile with a fake photo of this ALT Partner. I find this unethical. Guests are being asked to Tip the DJ's Alt. I see it as a Scam. Since this is a Public figure in SL. Someone asking you for L$, is it ok to post information about this in your profile? I feel that people who ask to be compensated in SL, need to be required to be honest as to where that money is going. Public Figures should be exempt from some TOS disclosures. There, you can read it your own self.

EvaFord wrote: WOW I am amazed at the nerve this touches. I do not think I am the appropriate target for your hostility. "Methinks the lady doth protest too much" Revealing information is NOT the issue. I t is not my place to out this ALT to his fans. But a Club owner has the right to know who she/he is hiring and if they are subjecting their guests to ridicule. Please KNOW that I will NEVER post this info. It is un ehtical. That is the ISSUE. Business ETHICS. Honesty in business practices is MY concern. And that HONESTY falls on the shoulders of the business owners and the Club owners. There should be a code of Ethics. Two-and-a-half hours ago you were saying you wanted to post this information in your profile and your only concern was whether you could get in trouble with TOS.

There aren't any "public figures" in SL because there's no public sector or government. If asking for money was the definition of "public figure," everyone who owned a Subway shop in RL would be one. I also have a close friend who's a DJ in SL so I know what's involved. If someone's able to run two viewers simultaneously in a crowded club environment, juggling back and forth between them to make comments, while simultaneously streaming audio I'd be very impressed and want to know what kind of computer and internet service they had. I think the simpler explanation would be that you're, well, wrong.

Have you tried clearing your cache and then checking your lost and found? And have you looked in your lost and found RECENTLY or only right after you hit the return button? Over 700 prims worth of stuff will make a huge bundle and it sometimes takes quite a bit of time for all the communication to get done.

This is the text from a notecard I got from White Tiger Help Island some time ago: **********"A TRUE STORY"******** I was new. Technically not good with computers, and a little bored. I was wearing my short skirt, bling chest rings, covered of course, but blinging far and wide through my freebie leather jacket. It seemed that was the thing to do in Second Life. Second Life to me appeared to be lacking in depth and communication and I saw males running around wearing unmentionable attachments. (I had clearly been to the wrong places). “There must be some sensible people here somewhere” I thought. “Maybe there are some nice people at a yachting club”. I searched and found Nantucket Yacht Club and teleported onto a jetty. There was a man. No silly attachments, no fancy skin, no chat up lines. And very oddly…....no talking at all! I said hello, but he did not answer. Now, when you are new in Second Life, you don’t understand about chat lag, AFK, invisible avatars……so I believed this person was truly ignoring me. I said “hello” again. Still no answer. Off I walked and viewed the boats. Up one jetty, down the next. Then I arrived back where the man was. I said “hello” again. Still no reply. Determined, I asked “Do you have a yacht here?” *Sigh.* I walked away pretty much in disgust really at being ignored several times. Then……as I was leaving……I saw very faintly on my screen…….. ...............“Yes”. Maybe he does not speak English I thought. Then the next word from him…...….. ”Sail?” This was odd. Not what I was used to. But clearly this man (who I assumed did not speak good English) was asking if I wanted to sail in his boat! I accepted, and not yet having done anything very interesting in Second Life, was quite excited. I was on my best behaviour and followed the man as he walked along the jetties to his yacht. The sailing was just amazing! (Although in silence!!). I had not experienced anything like it! I asked him if I could take photographs. He said “Yes”. The sea, the land, the turns, the commands, a skipper on a small yacht, sailing it just for me. I was so flattered. After a long time out to sea, we returned to the jetty. The man stood up and walked away, without a word, - to the clubhouse. Well, as I like to talk, I really couldn’t accept this. I followed and walked to him and asked “What language do you speak?” No reply. It was puzzling. There were others in the clubhouse. Ravishal and Izabella. Rav (who I had never met before) sent me an IM. “Have you read his profile?” I was new in Second Life, why would I think doing of that? So I did. ******* That was the moment that changed my Second Life. ******* The mans name was Djduerer Zou. – He described himself in his profile……. ✲ Friendly, kind, tall, bedridden, sailor. ✲Can barely type. ✲ Difficulty seeing too. ✲ It gets worse in the afternoon SLT time. ✲ Slow. ✲ I use gestures to speak. ✲ In my life I am terminally ill (soon dead) with progressive brain disease, OPCA also known as MSA. ✲ No regrets, lived passionately. ✲ SL is my life. ✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲ ((**OPCA = Olivopontocerebellar atrophy. MSA = Multiple System Atrophy - also known as Shy Drager. **)). I could'nt imagine to have ever read such a thing in Second Life. I could'nt imagine to have met someone like this in Second Life. The reality of the situation made my mind a whirl. I had been sailing with a man who was living the last days of his Real Life here, in Second Life, living the Real Life that he had known. As a sailor. My computer was a blur. There was something different here, I understood that. Djduerer managed to type - - “dance” “I think he is asking you to dance” wrote Ravishal in an IM. After the short dance I walked outside and stood my avatar looking out to sea. Thinking. I logged off Second Life with a hollow feeling inside but at the same time - a spark - a feeling that there was real life here in these avatars. After this day I returned two times to see Djduerer, and both times he took me sailing. I dropped the bling chest rings and lengthened my skirt! I talked to him, not expecting a reply. I remember once as we were sailing saying to him - “You must have had a wonderful Real Life at sea”. His answer made me happy and sad at the same time….. ”Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” he said. Then a couple of weeks later I heard from someone, that Djduerer had passed away. Three years or more later, when I am helping New Residents in Second Life, this experience is never far from my mind. I see so many things in Second Life - some less than polite. But some wonderful things too. But at no time has anything in Second Life ever taught me so much as the day I met Djduerer Zou and discovered who was really behind the avatar. I see these young avatars ‘doing their thing’ and cannot help but wonder if they have given one moments thought to the other real person they are communicating with. Maybe they just don't know about the community in Second Life. Now, almost every person I meet, I understand very clearly not to take it for granted that who I am talking to is represented in any way by the visual effect they are giving. People come to Second Life for many different reasons and for every word they type there is a real person creating those words. I have used my experience of meeting Djduerer to explain to others who are new here about Second Life and to help them to have an open mind. I doubt my presence in Second Life meant much to Djduerer. If I kept him company for a few sailings, that makes me happy, however Djduerer’s presence in Second Life meant so much to me. He taught me the most important lesson I have learned here. ✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲ Since that time, I have spoken to Djduerer Zou's Real Life wife, who is still a resident. I would like to tell you what she told me about the time that she and Djduerer spent together here. She said that when he was ill, and Real Life a great trial to them both, they would come to Second Life together and live in the same way as they had always lived their real lives. Dancing, exploring, sailing. She told me that at the end of Djduerer's life, Second Life in a way gave them back the real lives they had lost. Of course, she really believes in the power of Second Life and what it can achieve for some people. We all meet moments of sadness in Second Life, but hopefully also many, many moments of fun, development, laughter and happiness. But let us never forget....think about how we relate to people......we never know who they are. ✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲✲ This story is distributed with the full permission of the Real Life wife of Djduerer Zou. Treacle Darlandes.

The default next-owner permissions of things you make are "no copy/no modify/yes transfer" which is the reason you were having problems sending things to your alt. If you just set the object to "anyone can copy" without changing the next-owner permissions on the items there's nothing people can do commercially with the copies - they can't even read your scripts. If you changed the permissions AND set things to "anyone can copy"? You're out of luck.

All I can suggest is that you delete this thread. You've basically told the world that you're upset that checking a box that says "Anyone can copy" means, well, anyone can copy. There are a number of reasons for people to want this function to behave exactly as it does and exactly as it has been pretty clearly described to do. You made a mistake. We all do. But you won't get much sympathy for something like this.

When I was little - about five or six - I was very into cars. We lived near a church so Sunday mornings the streets around my house had various cars parked all up and down and I'd go out walking to take a look at them. At the time, about 1970... (My SL avatar looks up at me. "Gosh, you're old...") (Yes, I am, Theresa. Be quiet. Anyway...) At the time, about 1970, a ten-year old car was like something from Mars. Most people traded in their cars every three years and warranties were 1 year. Now, I drive a 10 year old car with over 100,000 miles on it and it's not even a particularly great car, just a pretty average one. You see ten, fifteen, twenty year old cars every day and nobody thinks anything about it. Throughout history, 90% of things were and are crap. However, when we look back in time the historical crap is long gone and forgotten and we only remember the 10% of things that were actually done well while we see the crappy 90% of the current world and think about how much better things were back then.

MaxFox Howley wrote: I used other worlds based on the Open Simulator platform, and I think SL would beinfit from some of the features they use. Sim Crossing, you are held on a sim untill another can pick you up, no infinity walk between them. Who's with me? Actually, that's pretty much how it already works in SL, you just don't see it because the viewer's set up to try and guess your movement if its waiting for information from the server. If you go to "Develop" - "Network" and deselect "Velocity Interpolate Objects" you'll stop dead at border crossings and only move when the next sim has completed the handoff.

I'm guessing that Rixty will soon be usable with Second Life but isn't yet - the page is a placeholder until the procedure has been worked out. That page might have been put up by mistake. It might not be until SL is available on Steam as well.

JeanneAnne wrote: why is SL so dam quirky like this ?!?!? why dont they fix it ?!?! Jeanne Because people want to be able to use the system for free (sorry, couldn't help it.) Real answer - Avatar rendering, etc. is largely handled by the viewer, which "bakes" your avatar and sends the information to the servers. Information on what you're wearing is also saved in your viewer on your machine, which then sends the information to the server to give it information for other people to see. If you switch from one viewer to another and were wearing different outfits in each the information on what you're wearing in the servers can get out-of-date and other people will see you wearing half of the outfit from from one viewer and half from the other. Your viewer keeps track of what you're wearing separately so what you see in your viewer may be different. They're currently working on completely re-doing the way avatars are drawn to get around this, with separate servers to render avatars rather than relying on people's viewers. I just sent Nyx Linden a bunch of outffits to test the new system.

Look at Redgrave and Dutch Touch too. My personal favorite light skins are from Natural Beauty, which are now only available on the Marketplace but you can still get demos. Also, Asian skin makers tend to use lighter skin tones than Western ones - most of the skins themselves don't look stereotypically "Asian." Look at Pink Fuel (best value for skins in Second Life in my opinion), Heaven's Gate (her "retail" skins tend to be more detailed than the free ones, which are quite nice for what they are as well) and you might consider Sakurako. (A bit dated and overpriced and now available only in world but her faces are lovely.) General advice: Don't worry about makeup because that can always be added with tattoos and give you much more flexibility, and don't pay too much attention to the promotional pictures - they're taken with very specialized, flattering lighting and in some cases (as I look at the skin you're using as your example and cough loudly) are heavily retouched. Always get a demo and look at it on your own shape, and don't automatically assume that a skinmaker's shape will be better - they're tuned to look good for close-up face shots and many of them don't hold up in real-fake-world situations. There are some skinmaker's shapes that I'd only wear to scare children on Halloween.

The date you joined and the "titles" are connected to how long you've been participating on the forum instead of how long you've been participating in SL itself. In other words, you joined the FORUM in March 2012 and that's what you're seeing.

Go to the "Preferences" menu, go to "Sound & Media" and make sure there's a check in the "Enabled" box by the "Voice Chat" bar. If there isn't, click on the box and then select "OK" to turn it on.

By "double talking" do you mean that what you say gets printed out twice in a row, or more sometimes? That's caused by packet loss making your viewer think it needs to send the message again. I had the same problem for a while several weeks ago but it went away on its own. Between that and your inability to cross sim borders, I think there's some sort of issue with your connection.

Did it say you were "banned" or just that it wouldn't let you in? The "age" issue was undoubtedly the fact that your account was only made on September 1 - many places don't allow very new avatars in for griefing reasons and to ensure the person playing them has a certain amount of experience in SL. Regions don't have any way of knowing your actual RL age to the best of my knowledge, only if you're "age verified" or not. The sim is still lthere - Tuesdays are days when much of the grid gets new server software which requires sims to be taken down for a period of time and today was abnormally hectic with many regions needing to be restarted more than once. You probably tried to locate it when it was temporarily offline due to a server update.

Simplebear Bing wrote: Forgive me if this has already been answered among the forums but why is it so laggy to everyone in SL? not everything is rezzing and i can't walk. Others are having the same issues. Is their a cause for this? Whats going on? Most sims get updated server software on Tuesdays. Today, even though the software had been tested pretty thoroughly last week, the regions that have been restarted after installing the new software are running strangely and causing abnormal lag. Linden Lab is aware of it and is working on it.