Skyler Pancake

They are using a follow script. It is technically against the rules and you can report it. The payout from PQ is so minimal though, LL isn't going to spend the money actively policing the location just to catch folks. So only way to actually get someone in trouble for this is with video evidence.

Although possible, it's extremely unlikely they would try to tackle that business angle. The issue goes far beyond PayPal. A large part of it has to do with the credit card companies and their policies. Often times they will refuse to service transactions with your business if it's of adult nature or provides services for adult industries. Some of this has to do with the credit risk involved.. The adult industry has the largest amount of disputed charges than any other industry. Thus the credit card companies are often left carrying the loss. Then you get into the pressure they receive from other industries, clients, religious groups, etc that all threaten to boycott, switch services, etc if they continue to provide services to adult services. Basically it's one big ripple effect. It's why you often see new services pop up, quietly allow adult industry, and then later put restrictions into place. It's not that they are opposed to adult industry, it's that they've been pressured into declining the industry.

Not gonna tackle the current conversations.. But if anyone wants an amazing free resource to listen in on experiences of POC in the USA, I highly recommend the podcast Code Switch.

Wanted to get some clarification on what does and does not constitute Keyword Spam, primarily in regards to Gacha's. The understanding I have from this is that terms unrelated to the exact item listed should not be used. For example, if you were selling a pair of shoes that came from a gacha set that also included a hat and dress: Valid: designer name, gacha set name, shoe, shoes, Invalid: designer name, gacha set name, shoe, shoes, dress, hat, Even though the full set includes a hat and dress, since you are not selling them as part of your listing, they should not be mentioned. Another example, a numbered gacha set from 1-10 in which you are selling #7. Valid: designer name, gacha set name, #7 Invalid: designer name, gacha set name, #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10 Again, you are only selling #7, so the other items in the set should not be referred to. Deleting keywords out that could be identifying, but there's another gacha reseller that I found who's definitely been abusing this. And want to make sure flagging the listing they haven't fixed will be valid. "#11,#4,#5,#8,#7,#9,#10,#11,#12,#13,#14,#17,UNCOMMON" Because they are listing every number type they are selling, and a few I believe they are not, it causes every item they have for sale for that item to pull up on the search results if you search for any of them. Thus cluttering the search results and making it harder to find what you are actually searching for. Is my understanding of this policy correct? I don't want to be wrongly flagging or misinforming folk if this isn't actually the case.

They just don't know how to use forums.

Because calling leftists snowflakes and purposely trying to 'trigger' them isn't bashing either. 🤲🙏🤲🙏 Both sides have their rhetoric and insults. Acknowledging that you're just as brainwashed as they are, but from a different perspective, will let you actually listen and try to figure things out for yourself.

I have a gacha resell store. Over 300 items. Not a single one has any keywords that might be considered a slur. And if I'm mistaken and one does? I will HAPPILY spend the five minutes or so changing and relisting the items.

How is it a waste of time if it still improves our situation? Sure, you might not succeed with what your ultimate goal is, but you'll still make improvements. One of the most important lessons any of my teachers ever taught me was to dream big. It's something a lot of successful folks will tell you. Don't fear failure, accept the risk and even often the likely chance of it. Your comment implies that we should also give up on all anti-pollution measures. Because we'll never completely eliminate pollution. There's always going to be accidental leaks, natural disasters, etc that cause pollution of one form or another. The goal is never to fully prevent all forms of pollution, but to minimize and counteract pollution where possible. It's the same idea with equality. Sure, we may not be able to reach full equality, but we can still work toward it, improve things where able, and try to balance out things where we can't. I would also strongly argue against the idea that things like gender discrimination are built into the human brain. It's something built into our society and has deep, deep roots, but there's no evidence of our brains being hardwired to think certain ways. If there is, please enlighten me. What you're describing here isn't equality. It's female superiority. Which isn't something we are talking about at all. But while we're on the subject, feminism is also NOT female superiority. And, as I mentioned above, even if there are still misogynistic or misandrist men or women, that doesn't mean we can't make efforts to counter balance those thoughts and actions. Nor is it impossible for them to try and actively prohibit their own thoughts. There's a very lovely song I love from Avenue Q called "Everybody's a little bit racist." And as the song goes, it's true. We're all a little bit racist. But it's actively acknowledging your thoughts and not permitting them to control your behavior or actions. The same goes for sexism and any other type of discrimination. Acknowledging it exists and then finding ways to prevent it from negatively impacting folks is the important part. And maybe you won't be able to stop all of it, but you can at least make efforts to do so where it matters the most.

Just because something isn't achievable doesn't mean you can't strive for it. There will always be injustice in the world, that doesn't mean we get rid of laws and courts. True equality may not be achievable. I'd argue that it isn't. That won't stop me from trying to work toward it though.

Although I do agree the posting of the store images was unnecessary, I don't believe they violated any stated policies. I've looked through the TOS, community guidelines, and community standards. I can't find anything related to a 'no naming and shaming' policy. Nor any mention of posting publicly accessible information as being against policy. I think this, in itself, is part of the issue. There are multiple policies for different areas of SL. The forums have policies, the market has policies, in world has policies, content creation has it's own policies. And none of them state the same thing. They all state slightly different things, so in some situations something would be against the policy and in other locations it's not. In addition, a lot of the policies or guides reference things that are no longer valid such as Sansar, forum post reporting, etc.

First: Do the listings show up when you are on 'All'? Or do they just not show up at all on the MP management screen? Second: This frustrated me and made me panic so much the first time I sold something. When you relog, you'll notice the stock=1 will change to stock=0. For some reason SL won't update the actual stock properly when you're in world. So it'll unlist the item, you'll 'know' you have 0, but it'll still show you as having one until you relog.

Had a friend argue once that women shouldn't be allowed to go topless, because if he was driving and saw a topless woman he'd become distracted and likely end up crashing into something. Which, is probably true. But that's still HIS fault for not controlling HIS reaction. Not the womans. Personally, that argument frustrates me so much. We shouldn't be stopping people from doing things, unless the action is directly causing or promoting harm, because of someone else's reaction.

There's a whole area that is set up with a Native American feel. It's not very authentic... But it exists. It's probably because your comments are usually nonconstructive and often bordering the line of disrespectful.

Okay. I need to expand on what I said earlier. The Cruelty/Hatred clause could arguably allow me to report the Aborigine avatar, as you could argue that racism always promotes hatred. But... I doubt LL would agree. Clearly racist items like this need to be banned from the MarketPlace and preferably all of SL though. Banning keywords would not solve this issue. There needs to be a change to the content policy itself. "Cruel or hateful content that could harm, harass, promote or condone violence against, or that is primarily intended to incite hatred of, animals, or individuals or groups based on race or ethnic origin, religion, nationality, disability, gender, age, veteran status, or sexual orientation/gender identity." Currently there's no phrasing preventing items that are intended to promote oppression, discrimination, or ridicule of people or groups based on their identity. Least not from what I'm interrupting the current policy. "Cruel or hateful content that could harm "Cruel or hateful content that could harass "Cruel or hateful content that could promote or condone violence against "Cruel or hateful content that is primarily intended to incite hatred of animals, or individuals or groups based on race or ethnic origin, religion, nationality, disability, gender, age, veteran status, or sexual orientation/gender identity."" None of those statements directly prohibit content that promotes oppression, discrimination, or ridicule. Yes.. There's arguments they could be, as all of those can result in harm, harassment, or violence, but that doesn't explicitly state it's not allowed. If I wasn't so tired I'd try to draft some wording myself. But I'm too tired to try and speak legalese tonight. I would love @Kristin Linden to chime in on this issue as well though.

Tombstone definitely is! I popped over there the other day to look around myself. Apparently they've lost some sims over the years but it's still decently sized. I feel like there was one corner with some teepees as well. I honestly wish I could get some of the Hopi I know into SL. I can only imagine how impressive and unique the worlds they would create would be.

Because I was curious, here's their YouTube video talking about the subscribed blog idea they have. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df2_Ra91qY8 Personally, I'd really recommend asking for some sort of payment or confirmation of payment prior to any work. As well as proof of concept.

This person is not the actual Lee Harrington who is well known in the kink community as an educator. Doing a quick google search shows the email address they have listed on their profile to not match the one publicly available on Lee's Facebook. Also, ICQ? Really. Who the hell uses that? If this was the actual Lee Harrington there would have been valid contact information that could be confirmed via Lee's website, http://passionandsoul.com/blog/, Facebook, Twitter, etc. This might be a Lee Harrington. But I find it sketch they didn't include a link to the blog they are supposedly hiring folks for, the supposed youtube video, or anything else that might give an idea of what this person is actually about or trying to do.

Kytteh, have you tried using a different web browser? IE, if you are using Firefox, use Chrome. It might be an issue with the browser and not SL directly. Would be good to try to eliminate any issues before making a ticket so they have an idea of what might be causing the problem.

If you are using the in viewer browser, than it's an issue with the viewer you are using. I know Firestorm rarely likes to keep my login information saved, but I tend to alt tab and use an actual browser for listing items anyways.

This is a tricky subject. LL actually does prevent certain words from being used as keywords, but from my knowledge only in the case of Trademark issues. 'Star Wars' for example will make your listing inactive until you remove it. So it would be easy for them to add other words, as the function is already in place. The problem is, what words? Most slurs are contextual. I'm quite glad we are, for the most part, past the phase of using 'gay' to mean stupid. However, the would gay could be considered a slur even though it also has many other potential uses. There are numerous words like this, which although can be used as slur are not necessarily depending on how or who is using it. However, you CAN report content that you believe promotes cruelty or hateful content. This of course is up to LL to define. There's definitely an argument for and against the Confederate flag being a symbol of hate. There will always be some gray zone. What would be be helpful is an update to the Marketplace Listing Guidelines https://marketplace.secondlife.com/listing_guidelines If the last line of that instead stated "towards individuals, groups, or animals" it would further make clear the limitations as stated in the Content Guidelines.

So you're basing your conclusion off a sampling of four sources? Sounds legit. I guess I'm just going to have to accept that I'm an unfriendly person. Aside from drawing more comments to this post though, this track of conversation isn't enlightening or going to assist syrup in finding friends. If you wanna talk more about how you believe gender is irrelevant please do feel free to message me in SL though.

I'm normally quite friendly. Not so much to people who dismiss other peoples identity. You shouldn't allow someone's identity to influence how you interact with them. However, you can't ignore that our society does on a regular basis. It's the same issue as "Color blindness" when it comes to race. Deciding that YOU are going to ignore their race doesn't mean other people are going to. And by ignoring their race, you're also ignoring their history, their struggles, etc. So although it's important to acknowledge your own biases and your reactions based on those biases you also can't simply ignore the persons identity.

Aaaaand this mentality is EXACTLY why someone who's non-binary would be seeking out other non-binary friends. 🤲🙏🤲🙏 Big round of applause for you completely missing the point and dismissing someone else's gender. For those who think that gender and sex, two completely different subjects and do not mean the same thing by the way, do not matter? Well, that's called privilege. Here's an example of gender and sex being important: https://community.secondlife.com/forums/topic/454271-accused-of-being-a-male-while-on-sl/ Need a non-SL example? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_pay_gap I can definitely find more examples if desired! It's reaaaaal easy. Gender identity and structure is a major concept used globally around the world in various ways to define relationships, hierarchical positioning, purpose, etc. As much as we shouldn't let it define things, it does. Also, to anyone wanting to chime in because syrup identifies as non-binary, please ask yourself this first. Would you care if this was a man looking for other men to be friends with? Or a woman looking for other women to be friends with?

Google exists and works really well for researching things you are unfamiliar with. Labels exist to help easily explain things. They let us explain a concept in a brief manor. Like saying you're a 'sports fan' or a 'trekkie'. And sometimes, people just want to find friends they can relate with. A sports fan might want a friend who's also a sports fan. Cause then they can relate more easily on a shared subject. That's what syrup37c is trying to do here. Find people they relate with. And as your intention was clearly to come into this topic and criticize them for doing so? Well, clearly you aren't someone they should bother trying to be friends with. That said, hello syrup! I'm also non-binary! Hurrah for fellow enbys! Can also understand the struggle of finding people to be friends with, though I've been pretty lucky to find some decent folk. I can imagine the struggle being even harder if there is a language barrier involved. Feel free to send me an IM in world sometime!