KanryDrago

To highlight the visibility issue, I have been here on these forums for a while and never realised the section was there as I guess I got down to where we were doing sections such as land forums and thought they were becoming more irrelevant so stopped scrolling

Well if we got a Linden to buy into the idea that could make it happen (the handing to new players bit) I would be happy to put some work into it. Though I suspect the first argument would be what notecards should there be

Ah you mean the section. See I dont see that as too useful. What I think they need is a single forum section where new players can go and ask questions and it needs to be near the top. Faced with that section a new player who just wants to know "Where is good place to get new hair?" is going to wonder where to stick the question It is not highly visible however is the main issue

hehe you laugh but I just went up to the forum list and couldn't see it so either I am too hungover or its well hidden

There is an answers section?

Oh and another good idea would be a new player forum section, where new players can ask questions and people that wish to can answer. A section where maybe trolling gets you a black mark

Ok I am often negative on ideas for improving SL retention and in most cases I think I am justified as they are often a case of "I would like this so everyone else would" type. However being christmas and all for you heathens I will try and be positive and suggest something that might be both uncontroversial and help. Simply put a welcome pack of maybe a dozen notecards, Tutorials on certain things such as editting your shape, how the avatar system works explaining shape, alpha's, skins etc. Also a notecard full of landmarks to get free stuff and a couple of notecards to places to visit organised by category such as for example "Silly fun places Duck racing at Quackerstone". This welcome pack however would not be written by the Lindens (though they would have to set it up so newbies got it maybe a vendor in starting areas) It would be written by people like us. We could for example have a thread for each notecard where people could suggest bits to include and forum users could vote them up and down. With each thread having a curator that pulls the highest voted items into a single post which can then be picked up for the pack every three months. Hopefully even with some feedback from the newbies so we can improve things with each notecard having a link to its discussion thread at the bottom. Happy christmas all

We dont want it and if we opt out it will be by going to somewhere that doesnt put us through crap like that. The question you should be asking is how many will you drive off compared to how many that will attract....my suspicion is the latter number is approximately zero. "Hey come to sl its really great and one of the best bits is they make you rub shoulders with a lot of idiots before you get to do what you want to do!!!!" now does that really sound like a selling point?

For what its worth I meet quite a few genuine newbies but then I go out of my way to say hi if I see someone with merely days on their age on radar and try and help. Several of those I have greeted are still around in sl, some leave. From my small sample retention rate seems about 20% which is higher than most claim. Maybe someone experienced willing to spend an hour or so teaching them a few basics helps....just a thought

Well if you want to drive people away sure go with this. I spend all day everyday having to rub shoulders with people I would rather not. I come to SL to relax. Forcing me to spend time with even more idiots than I already have to merely by visiting places where most people are the sort of people I interact with would make me decide that sl is worthless

makes a note not to send a friends request to selene

This is how I deal with this sort of thing It is not my loss losing them as a friend but there loss losing me....egocentric yes but it means the hissy fit and block merely makes me shrug

Which was sort of what I said with the caveat that you need a thicker skin if you follow that route

Sl has retention issues Linden labs cant do anything about it however only the residents can. Personally I have a stash of links that help newbies for free stuff. If I see them and I am not busy I will im them and welcome them to sl and offer them links and if I am really not busy even offer them a short tutorial in all things sl and take them to see some things after finding out what interests them. I dont regard it as being an altruist I merely regard it as being in my best interests to help people join in

Was he rude? Yes he was However why friend him in the first place? You talked once for a few sentences. Sl is full of very lonely people who want to connect. First find out if you are compatible and have stuff to talk about or realise the one conversation friends a lot of them will go rude on your ass and learn to make it the water that lands on a ducks back. Personally I have found enough of the one conversation and friends people good company that I am willing to tolerate the low hit rate. Your mileage may vary as it inevitably gives you the self entitled and merely insane in large quantities

Beat saber is a good game and a very simple game as in not complex to code....sprites....motion detection.....hand postion detection...the bare bones of vr, when something half as good and half as complex can be made in sansar then give us a shout

Sorry Scylla politicians mouthing platitudes about rights doesn't mean a thing unless they have the power to enforce those rights. The un is a particularly good example of this with their charter of human rights, all very nice all laudable but the un can't enforce them which makes them no more than worthless words. Altruism works in small communities. Once you move to a global stage then altruism frankly means nothing as we see time after time in real life. The only innate human right any of us have is the right to die. The rest we believe we have are gifted to us by those with power, those can be stripped from us also at the whim of those with power as has happened time and again throughout history. When the gun is pointed at you then you only have as much in the way of rights as the wielder allows, except for the one they can't take away

So care to tell us who Sansar is for? Educators are making their own custom apps Large companies that want vr ads are making their own Any gamer is going to see the guff that Sansar dishes up as worthless Plenty of museums and other exhibit types are making their own apps Social media? Nope those people like vr chat, rec room etc Sansar holds nothing for them either So you keep telling us Sansar isnt for sl'ers I agree. Now try telling us who is the customer for it

My specs far exceed those, Sansar is not performant. Every other vr app I run is including dcs, assetto corsa, elite, skyrim and obduction to name a few of the more machine stressing apps. The main issue being the long load times (I have 300mbps down) and the 2012 graphics quality.

dont be unfair its "beta" and they have only been developing it for 5 years or so, just come back in 20 years when its really ready

Sadly not the case in many nations your local law enforcement will look at it and goes looks underaged to us you are nicked mate. It doesnt matter what you claim your avi is.

Couldnt agree more, and we should remember why geocities websites were avoided by discerning users

most sl users arent gamers as such would be my guess, they merely sl on the same machine they use for email, web browsing etc and a potato is adequate for that

well Australia I am told is always rip off city for pc stuff but in the rest of the world where prices are saner....

just to dispel a myth here as an aside, it costs nothing like 6000 to get a perfectly good vr setup. The total for my rig including the headset was a total of 1500$ and runs things like skyrim just fine. The oculus rift retails now for just over 300$ and any i5 or better with a gtx 980 or better will give adequate power