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13 minutes ago, Bubblesort Triskaidekaphobia said:

Confirmed breaking headline emergency apocalyptic news...

Elon Musk has bought SL, and is renaming it Second X!  LOL

omg, let's hope not :P

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48 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

But it's also true that the performance of FS 7, at least on older or lower-end computers, is markedly and quantifiably inferior to that of other TPV PBR viewers -- including even Black Dragon, in my personal experience. That's why some FS users have migrated to Alchemy and CoolVL. It's why I now split my time between three viewers -- FS, Alchemy, and Black Dragon.

There is no set way to make PBR work well for everyone, different viewers are bottlenecked by insufficient hardware in different ways under different situations. In like for like AB testing, there is almost nothing in it when hardware issues are removed and settings are correctly normalized. Alchemy side by side with FS is not any faster in use cases that matter (hundreds of FPS alone on a platform doesn't count for anything). CoolVL is out on it's own as that does things unavoidably differently.

There will be entire classes of hardware that are now out in the cold. That can't be fixed. Limping along with a 10 year old GPU or a cheap "business laptop" is not acceptable anymore.

18 minutes ago, Sparkle Bunny said:

it's layoffs isn't it.

If a barely functional limited access mobile client was some sort of one-shot hail mary then yes, there should be layoffs. Starting with everyone who thought that was a good idea. I will be honestly very angry if this turns out to have been the plan.

 

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18 minutes ago, Bubblesort Triskaidekaphobia said:

Confirmed breaking headline emergency apocalyptic news...

Elon Musk has bought SL, and is renaming it Second X!  LOL

That would be good news and restore my faith in the viability of SecondLife.

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1 minute ago, Arielle Popstar said:

That would be good news and restore my faith in the viability of SecondLife.

lol yes. Because he's made such a success of Twitter.

According to a Guardian article from January, "The social media platform X has lost 71% of its value since it was bought by Elon Musk, according to the mutual fund Fidelity." And an online app monitor notes that it has dropped approximately one fifth of its users.

The man's an undoubted genius.

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14 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said:

There is no set way to make PBR work well for everyone, different viewers are bottlenecked by insufficient hardware in different ways under different situations.

Of course not. There's no magic bullet for this. But I didn't say there was. I suggested that FS could perform better than it does on older or weaker computers.

15 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said:

In like for like AB testing, there is almost nothing in it when hardware issues are removed and settings are correctly normalized.

The "hardware issues" that you're "removing" are precisely the issue, aren't they?

AB testing notwithstanding, my experience of Alchemy -- and for that matter of both the LL viewer and Black Dragon -- is that they perform measurably better on my (relatively new) laptop. And I'm not the only one who thinks so.

So, whatever your testing may be telling you, in "real world" conditions, the other viewers work better for some computers. That's based on the numbers actually appearing on my screen as I use them, and upon the comments of friends who've been testing out Alchemy.

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1 minute ago, Arielle Popstar said:

That would be good news and restore my faith in the viability of SecondLife.

No it wouldn't, not least of all that by that clown.

We have no share value to pump and hype. Crypto isn't a thing. We're not politically relevant. Heavily LGBTQ+. Avatars humping couches rather than each other would just be a day that ends in Y. There are no government contracts at stake or on offer. We would deadname the platform harder than he deadnames his child. We're insular to the point of being culturally divested from the real world. We don't tolerate actual Nazis. He can afford to own a real yacht.

Some of us might exchange sexual favors for a horse (rezzer), but only once (it's copyable).

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10 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

lol yes. Because he's made such a success of Twitter.

According to a Guardian article from January, "The social media platform X has lost 71% of its value since it was bought by Elon Musk, according to the mutual fund Fidelity." And an online app monitor notes that it has dropped approximately one fifth of its users.

The man's an undoubted genius.

Tesla hasn't been doing so well lately either...I think there is something wrong with him :(

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1 minute ago, Arielle Popstar said:

He made Twitter and now X a household word/name. Second Life could use a little of that.

Twitter was a household name way before he set his sites on it...

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1 minute ago, Kylie Jaxxon said:

Twitter was a household name way before he set his sites on it...

Not nearly to the degree since he started to talk of buying it and then did. I'd expect some major changes to how SL operates if he took over and that is what I think the platform needs.

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9 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said:

He made Twitter and now X a household word/name. Second Life could use a little of that.

Twitter was already a household name, and he took away distinctive branding for a letter. Not exactly a genius move. Now it is just a nazi hellscape and porn bots. We definitely don't need that.

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3 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said:

Not nearly to the degree since he started to talk of buying it and then did. I'd expect some major changes to how SL operates if he took over and that is what I think the platform needs.

He made HIMSELF take center stage not Twitter.  

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4 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said:

Not nearly to the degree since he started to talk of buying it and then did. I'd expect some major changes to how SL operates if he took over and that is what I think the platform needs.

Sorry, but this is flat out absurd. He has turned X into a dumpster fire.

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12 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said:

He made Twitter and now X a household word/name. Second Life could use a little of that.

OMG

Like band-aid is for sticking plasters or google is to web search, companies have wet dreams about being part of the general nomenclature. What was a short post online? .. A tweet .. and he got rid of that and lost $36 billion monies in the process. With his big brain.

 

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36 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said:
58 minutes ago, Sparkle Bunny said:

it's layoffs isn't it.

If a barely functional limited access mobile client was some sort of one-shot hail mary then yes, there should be layoffs. Starting with everyone who thought that was a good idea. I will be honestly very angry if this turns out to have been the plan.

Instead of layoffs, just fire the head of the mobile project. 🙂

 

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4 minutes ago, Cristiano Midnight said:
5 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Yeah, they post their conspiracies on here a lot recently, as if they are to be seriously considered. 🙂

 

I have never known Daniel to be a conspiracy theorist.

Ok, then he recently posted "realistic, believable counts showing the decline in SL usage, private regions, and concurrent users".  In a "doom and gloom" thread. Something I don't really worry about. Because I have faith in LL and SL. 🙂

 

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4 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Ok, then he recently posted "realistic, believable counts showing the decline in SL usage, private regions, and concurrent users".  In a "doom and gloom" thread. Something I don't really worry about. Because I have faith in LL and SL. 🙂

 

So someone posting something that doesn't match your sunny world view is a conspiracy theorist? I have noticed the decline myself not from anything other than my friends list and events I frequent. Some of it can be explained by it still being summer, but it does feel more steep than usual.

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