Most supported male bodies?

[Paul Hexem]

1 hour ago, Ayashe Ninetails said:

Funny enough, that can be said for most threads these days. 😄

 

I suppose it depends on what you mean by traditional. This is the type of look I'm referring to seeing a lot of when I browse Flickr and go shopping (shoutout to the guys in these pics - your avies are adorbs):

 

 

 

And on the more casual side:

 

 

A lot of the stuff I buy has auto alphas, but yeah, when clothing items don't, that gets a bit meh. That's another point against Legacy for me actually - the auto alphas can take forever to hide/show the body. It's so slow compared to when I'm wearing Maitreya.

One or two of those are nice, but I'd bet you anything most of it won't fit on me or with anything I wear.

[Ayashe Ninetails]

7 minutes ago, steeljane42 said:

It got quite a bit slower with 1.5 update (and later) compared to the older versions, but it's for the best in terms of it actually working properly, most of the time anyway. 1.4 and below had the common issue when you'd remove something with auto-alpha and it would never show the body back, similar to how older 4.x Maitreya auto-hide scripts are. So while annoying it's better that way.

Yeah, it does feel a bit slower now than before, now that you mention it. It's not really a deal-breaker when choosing a body IMO, but it is pretty amusing sitting there waiting for my chest to finish stitching itself back together after I take my shirt off. 😄 I do quite like 1.5, though. Those chat commands save so much tiiiiiime.

 

5 minutes ago, Paul Hexem said:

One or two of those are nice, but I'd bet you anything most of it won't fit on me or with anything I wear.

You must be very picky! 😜 Also, what in the world body are you using that they wouldn't fit? All of those outfits are rigged for either Gianni, Jake, or Legacy (sometimes two or all three).

Quick tip - the last photo (with the jeans) is Cold Ash (jacket) layered over Legal Insanity (jeans) - so if you like that style, maybe go on a demo spree and see if you can fit more Cold Ash tops over Legal Insanity bottoms. That's usually how I find my matches - find some stores that play nicely together and milk it.

[Orwar]

14 minutes ago, Ayashe Ninetails said:

Quick tip - the last photo (with the jeans) is Cold Ash (jacket) layered over Legal Insanity (jeans) - so if you like that style

   I don't know if I'd call that 'style'. Scoffs derisively. 

[Ayashe Ninetails]

47 minutes ago, Orwar said:

   I don't know if I'd call that 'style'. Scoffs derisively. 

Everybody's different, yo! I dunno how Paul rolls. 😄 He said traditional, I kept things pretty traditional. It's a style! A very laid-back chill style, but a style!

No chance I'd make suggestions for him based on anything I'd wear. Pfft. He'd snatch my wig if I tried. 🤣

[Paul Hexem]

2 hours ago, Ayashe Ninetails said:

Yeah, it does feel a bit slower now than before, now that you mention it. It's not really a deal-breaker when choosing a body IMO, but it is pretty amusing sitting there waiting for my chest to finish stitching itself back together after I take my shirt off. 😄 I do quite like 1.5, though. Those chat commands save so much tiiiiiime.

 

You must be very picky! 😜 Also, what in the world body are you using that they wouldn't fit? All of those outfits are rigged for either Gianni, Jake, or Legacy (sometimes two or all three).

Quick tip - the last photo (with the jeans) is Cold Ash (jacket) layered over Legal Insanity (jeans) - so if you like that style, maybe go on a demo spree and see if you can fit more Cold Ash tops over Legal Insanity bottoms. That's usually how I find my matches - find some stores that play nicely together and milk it.

"Rigged for" and "fits" are rarely the same thing. Especially with skinny places like Cold Ash.

Their stuff makes me feel like I've got a big head.

[Ayashe Ninetails]

4 minutes ago, Paul Hexem said:

Especially with skinny places like Cold Ash.

Their stuff makes me feel like I've got a big head.

*gigglesnorts* You would hate some of the pants I've got from...Enforcer, I think it is. Butterscotch, too. Give me these little stick legs, but I keep my shapes pretty slender anyway, so it works overall, and it works out well when trying to fit shirts over them.

In your case, ain't nobody told you to give yourself them Popeye arms, I'm just sayin'!!!!!! 

 

Try some places that favor Gianni and perhaps also rig for Kario. I've noticed they sometimes make their fits a bit wider. I think Etham clothing is a bit wider. Erauqs. Odiren. Gaset. All of those places rig for the "big three" and a few have Kario or Davis.

[Rowan Amore]

The one thing I've noticed with a LOT of male avatars run by men as opposed to.women is that unless the man is doing some photos or blogging, most men are perfectly happy with a dozen or so outfits.  They especially love mix and match pieces with HUDs so they can wear those pants with this shirt and add a vest or jacket.  Shorts and pants that work with one type of shirt.  They don't need or even want a ton of clothes/shoes/accessories.  And most women are fine with men who are like that as long as they DO change outfits.  One hair can last them for years.  So, when women make male alts, they shop like women.  Men who make male.avatars shop like men. (Yes. I know...A generalization but it's what I've observed over 14 yrs)

Whether Jake remains supported by Belleza isn't really important to a lot of men.  They like it, they have enough clothes for it, they're good.  

[Ayashe Ninetails]

42 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:

The one thing I've noticed with a LOT of male avatars run by men as opposed to.women is that unless the man is doing some photos or blogging, most men are perfectly happy with a dozen or so outfits.  They especially love mix and match pieces with HUDs so they can wear those pants with this shirt and add a vest or jacket.  Shorts and pants that work with one type of shirt.  They don't need or even want a ton of clothes/shoes/accessories.  And most women are fine with men who are like that as long as they DO change outfits.  One hair can last them for years.  So, when women make male alts, they shop like women.  Men who make male.avatars shop like men. (Yes. I know...A generalization but it's what I've observed over 14 yrs)

Whether Jake remains supported by Belleza isn't really important to a lot of men.  They like it, they have enough clothes for it, they're good.  

This is somewhat true, yup. A lot of guys definitely collect a few decent mix/match pieces and call it an SL, for sure.

On the other hand, I have somehow found myself surrounded by male fashion divas for most of my SL experience (even in pre-mesh days) who usually wound up dragging ME shopping all the time. Not for photos - they were just that into styling themselves. The type of men who had tons of landmarks and knew the most obscure joints on the grid to find everything from specialist clothing (latex, leather, feathered accessories, costumes and fantasy outfits, you name it, all of which could be rather difficult to find in large quantities in male sizes - though that's a bit easier now) to the finest suits. One was determined enough to build a massive latex clothing and boot wardrobe (which is how he dressed in RL) that he swapped between Gianni and Maitreya + V-Tech to pull it off. It's rare, for sure, but guys like that are FUN AF if you love to shop. If you don't, it's probably dreadful. Some men can be pretty relentless and stubborn when they're in focus mode - hitting every store in existence to find ONE specific thing, omg.

I learned my best shopping secrets from some of them. My female friends were not about that life. 😄

I do think some men do get rather attached to a body and run with it forever. Under no circumstances could I ever get a guy to change his head around for funsies or try a new body or skin or a new shape unless he specifically was looking to do so (or unless he was a shapeshifter with a ton of unique looks/avatars). Once they get stuff working and the wardrobe starts flowing, they're locked IN.

[Persephone Emerald]

9 hours ago, Paul Hexem said:

That said, even when you do hunt around, you get wildly different styles of clothing that will never be able to be worn together, if you even like them at all. Which is actually sort of on point... You're a woman saying there's plenty for men. Many men will tell you that a lot of those options don't count.

Many women have male alts, and we find clothes for them. Because they're alts, we may not want to spend alot of money on them, but we take this as a challenge to find free stuff, sales, and shops with store credit and gift cards. Like most male users then, we don't want to spend much money on our male avatars, but unlike them, we don't mind spending time to look for stuff. Shopping for a great bargain or a perfect look is an activity we enjoy, not just a necessary chore for achieving a passible wardrobe. 

The L'Homme Magazine group, Access event, and ManCave event are good places for finding male clothing stores you may like.

Boston Blaisedale on YouTube and the Virtual Bloke website are also good for showing male fashion options.

[Isaac Ashton]

9 hours ago, Ayashe Ninetails said:

Funny enough, that can be said for most threads these days. 😄

 

I suppose it depends on what you mean by traditional. This is the type of look I'm referring to seeing a lot of when I browse Flickr and go shopping (shoutout to the guys in these pics - your avies are adorbs):

 

 

 

And on the more casual side:

 

 

A lot of the stuff I buy has auto alphas, but yeah, when clothing items don't, that gets a bit meh. That's another point against Legacy for me actually - the auto alphas can take forever to hide/show the body. It's so slow compared to when I'm wearing Maitreya.

Luckily you've spared us the usual sneakers and training pants that flood men events 😁

[Alwin Alcott]

7 hours ago, Ayashe Ninetails said:

Quick tip - the last photo (with the jeans) is Cold Ash (jacket) layered over Legal Insanity (jeans) - so if you like that style, maybe go on a demo spree and see if you can fit more Cold Ash tops over Legal Insanity bottoms. 

It's not only taste that prevent me to shop a lot at some stores. I dont say that it's ugly or badly made, but as in RL some brands have a fitting that makes me think no thanks.
Cold Ash is on the edge of that, but often it's a long thinking and often still a no. Same for Mossu, Etham. There are more, in special in pants'jeans i'm not happy fast.
To get me in Gabriel i'd be cuffed and sedated.. that's a misery for me. I don't know why but it's like allergies, somtimes we don't know what causes it.
It's sad that the creator of the bést jeans ever made in SL didn't rig them new for the mesh bodies, and not for sale since long time anymore.. the crude mad jeans by Jomo.

[Marianne Little]

Jake is a good body for avatars who change their style.

With Jake, you can be cyberpunk on Thursday, latex and harness on Friday, pinstripe suit on Saturday, full steampunk on Sunday, street wear on Monday, casual conservative in khaki on Tuesday and full floorlength gown on Wednesday.

You can be all that with Legacy, but Jake is lower in price and complexity. To select a male body, demo both and see if you hate Jake so much that you must have Legacy instead. If Legacy could fix the glitch, ditch their weird HUD (Seriously, whyyyyy?) and lower the complexity (A lot), I would buy Legacy in a sale. Until then, Jake it is.

Signature Gianni is too muscular for me, but some love that. But I am female in RL. I have a feeling that those who are male in RL like big deltoids and arms. Of course that is very sterotypical thinking on my side. If a guy ask for advice and I tell him about the different bodies and he choose Signature Gianni, I am sure he is male RL. Again, just me speaking, and my opinion.

Legacy Athlethic is also a body I think a "male in RL" could want.

----- And I want to give Meshbody Classic a bit love, genious for the low budget and where a small inventory is perfectly serviceable. It takes some time and effort, searching the Marketplace and stores who has not retired all their clothes from previous years. Last time I sent an alt in Cold Ash, he found they had some in the back of the store. And the quality of Cold Ash clothes from several years back, is better than much of what you find today. For suits, all they need is that they fit around the neck and the hands, the rest is hidden in an alpha layer. Honestly, I would take this 1L body instead of LL starter mesh avatar. Of course you do not find new clothes for it... so it is not an answer to "most supported" body. Mea culpa.

Edited December 21, 2023 by Marianne Little
changed a word, underlined one

[Orwar]

2 hours ago, Marianne Little said:

Signature Gianni is too muscular for me

[Ayashe Ninetails]

7 hours ago, Isaac Ashton said:

Luckily you've spared us the usual sneakers and training pants that flood men events 😁

LMAO yes! I specifically avoided that because I hate it, too. Real talk - I learned early on that the majority of events are the absolute WORST places to shop - for men and women (but especially men, unless you're in need of your 54th tattoo or a spiked baseball bat).

I have my best luck with small stores and specialty designers - some of which I find by scrolling through photos in male and fantasy/roleplay fashion groups on Flickr and then digging for styling credits and TPing over to see what else they've got. Time consuming, but way easier than relying on in-world Search and the MP, which can be prettttty bad.

 

7 hours ago, Alwin Alcott said:

It's not only taste that prevent me to shop a lot at some stores. I dont say that it's ugly or badly made, but as in RL some brands have a fitting that makes me think no thanks.
Cold Ash is on the edge of that, but often it's a long thinking and often still a no. Same for Mossu, Etham. There are more, in special in pants'jeans i'm not happy fast.
To get me in Gabriel i'd be cuffed and sedated.. that's a misery for me. I don't know why but it's like allergies, somtimes we don't know what causes it.
It's sad that the creator of the bést jeans ever made in SL didn't rig them new for the mesh bodies, and not for sale since long time anymore.. the crude mad jeans by Jomo.

I do agree with you about all of this - especially fits. The more I shop, the more I've noticed that some clothing does entirely ignore the body its made for and takes on a whole independent shape of its own (which may or may not be a good thing, depending on what you're aiming for). I see it very occasionally with Maitreya, but I see it more with Legacy M. Thing is, I run my male avatars pretty slim, so it's not usually too bad when that happens, but if you've got more muscle or body mass and prefer to keep it, it's jarring for sure. Paul's example is a good one.

As for Gabriel, the collection is very hit or miss for me. There are pieces I adore (the safety pin suit I tried on the other day looks so gooooooood and I love my wrap jacket), and other pieces that I'm just not into. I get the style they're going for, though, but like you mentioned - sometimes the fits are way off and if you just want no-frills casual wear, it's a bit much.

I don't actually shop Cold Ash myself, though I've known people who do. I'm not a fan of Etham myself, either. Mossu I do like for things like pants, but not really tops (unless I'm trying to shove Maitreya into a Jake-fit sweater or something). I'm usually on the other end of the fashion spectrum (I like my clothing a bit nutty and over-the-top, for both male and female, and I tend to look for things to match my RL fashion interests and fav designers - I was just in Hotdog and Jeys the other day, so you see where this is going), so it's pretty rare that I'm hunting around for casual wear, but I do see it a loooot while rummaging for the other stuff and if it's nice enough, I might give it a demo.