Banned for negative review in MP?

[Ultima Cloud]

Firstly, sorry if this is in the wrong forum. Only option I saw for marketplace seemed to be for merchants only.

This avie just hit his 14 year mark over the summer. I've written many reviews pro and con. I've never been banned by a vendor for this nor did I even know this was actually a thing. Is this something that was implemented recently? 

At a recent event I noticed a vendor selling a few products I was interested in. The quality was very good, so much so that I decided to join their group to get updates and what not. So I attempt to join the group and get a message that I am banned from joining such group.. Hmm. As far I know I had not had any interaction with this brand before. I decided to try to purchase the items I was interested in. Cannot purchase item either. Still confused I decide to check the marketplace and see if I can buy from their MP store. Nope. Lastly, I did a search in my purchase history for items I bought from them previously and found one item and one review.

Granted, it was a rather harsh review. It was also blunt and honest. And when you sell things you kind of open yourself up to other peoples opinions. As someone who likes to buy things in this game it kind of rubs me the wrong way when a vendor name drops popular body brands when the item isn't actually fitted for either. In hindsight I believe this brand is kind of new and starting up so I did feel bad and deleted the review then apologized to the vender figuring this would be water under the bridge. A few weeks later, still banned.

I let this sit for a few days but it kind of ate at me and I felt the need to write about it. I don't understand why there are repercussions for negative reviews. Otherwise what is the point in having reviews? Why is this even allowed by SL? Also, from the vendor perspective, what is the gain in preventing someone from buying things from you? Once I hit that buy Ls tab the money is out of my pocket regardless. It's going to be spent somewhere.

So ultimately, the only thing I've lost is the real money I planned on losing to begin with (and maybe a bit of sanity for wondering why this is even a thing). Meanwhile, you lose any future purchases of mine or any suggestions to friends I might make and the suggestion they might ultimately make themselves. Not a big deal, but the type of product you sell are geared toward a relatively small (when compared to SL as a whole) community. One that I have been apart of since like 2008. 

Anyways, sorry this turned into a rant. Still don't get why SL allows this.

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[Mollymews]

the ability to ban people from a marketplace store is fairly recent yes.  I think the motivation was to make marketplace the same as land and groups. Ability to ban same as

 

as an aside I personally don't see the point of the market place review system. I don't care what somebody else thinks of a product. If the image/description fits what I am looking for then I will get the demo if there is one and have a look at it myself

 

[Ceka Cianci]

I'm not sure how they could ban you from anything other than their land or groups..I don't think people can ban you from vendors and market place purchasing, but I may be wrong.. I've just never heard of it happening before.

if you really wanted something from them, try gifting it to your main from an alt..

I'd like to hear from others if it is possible to get banned from certain stores on the MP or from vendors at a fair.. That's a new one on me..

[Ultima Cloud]

2 minutes ago, Ceka Cianci said:

I'm not sure how they could ban you from anything other than their land or groups..I don't think people can ban you from vendors and market place purchasing, but I may be wrong.. I've just never heard of it happening before.

if you really wanted something from them, try gifting it to your main from an alt..

I'd like to hear from others if it is possible to get banned from certain stores on the MP or from vendors at a fair.. That's a new one on me..

It's actually a thing. I couldn't purchase the item from the vendor at the event and the marketplace gave me a message that said item was not available to purchase.

[Ceka Cianci]

Just now, Mollymews said:

the ability to ban people from a marketplace store is fairly recent yes.  I think the motivation was to make marketplace the same as land and groups. Ability to ban same as

 

as an aside I personally don't see the point of the market place review system. I don't care what somebody else thinks of a product. If the image/description fits what I am looking for then I will get the demo if there is one and have a look at it myself

 

Wow that was a bit silly for them to add that option, I think..  Now there will be pressure to only leave good reviews or risk banned from a store..

[Rowan Amore]

Just now, Ceka Cianci said:

I'm not sure how they could ban you from anything other than their land or groups..I don't think people can ban you from vendors and market place purchasing, but I may be wrong.. I've just never heard of it happening before.

if you really wanted something from them, try gifting it to your main from an alt..

I'd like to hear from others if it is possible to get banned from certain stores on the MP or from vendors at a fair.. That's a new one on me..

There was a girl in another thread recently who was banned from buying from a mesh head store.  On MP and inworld so apparently, it's possible.  I don't see the rational behind banning the purchase of a product.  As the OP mentioned, it's kind of shooting yourself in the foot.  If I were banned from a store, especially for a bad review, I'd be sure to tell all my friends about it.  And they'd tell some friends and so on.  If you don't want bad reviews, don't sell on the MP.  It's part of the process and to me, it only shows that the merchant knew they had inferior products and didn't want anyone else to know.  

[Ceka Cianci]

Just now, Ultimo Constantineau said:

It's actually a thing. I couldn't purchase the item from the vendor at the event and the marketplace gave me a message that said item was not available to purchase.

Yes, I just had seen Molly post about it.. Have to say,at first glace, I don't agree with LL's decision to add that option.

[Ceka Cianci]

2 minutes ago, RowanMinx said:

There was a girl in another thread recently who was banned from buying from a mesh head store.  On MP and inworld so apparently, it's possible.  I don't see the rational behind banning the purchase of a product.  As the OP mentioned, it's kind of shooting yourself in the foot.  If I were banned from a store, especially for a bad review, I'd be sure to tell all my friends about it.  And they'd tell some friends and so on.  If you don't want bad reviews, don't sell on the MP.  It's part of the process and to me, it only shows that the merchant knew they had inferior products and didn't want anyone else to know.  

I agree, it's just a silly thing to put on the MP and event vendors.. I can't see any sense to it really..

[Ultima Cloud]

11 minutes ago, RowanMinx said:

If I were banned from a store, especially for a bad review, I'd be sure to tell all my friends about it.  And they'd tell some friends and so on.  If you don't want bad reviews, don't sell on the MP.  It's part of the process 

I actually only told one friend. Maybe if I had vented more I wouldn't have felt compelled to post this :D. Again as far as I know they are a somewhat new brand so I don't want to bury them or anything. I actually appreciate new things in SL. I just won't go out of my way to suggest them to other people like I typically would with products I like.

[Ceka Cianci]

5 minutes ago, Ultimo Constantineau said:

I actually only told one friend. Maybe if I had vented more I wouldn't have felt compelled to post this :D. Again as far as I know they are a somewhat new brand so I don't want to bury them or anything. I actually appreciate new things in SL. I just won't go out of my way to suggest them to other people like I typically would with products I like.

Well, I'm glad you posted about it..Because it's something I never heard of until you mentioned it.. As much as I shop, it's just a good thing to know..

So thank you for posting about it.

[Kitteh Whiskers]

43 minutes ago, Ultimo Constantineau said:

I attempt to join the group and get a message that I am banned from joining such group.. Hmm. As far I know I had not had any interaction with this brand before. I decided to try to purchase the items I was interested in. Cannot purchase item either.

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This happens to me after a certain....... disagreement ..... with a certain top brand. I cannot get demos, join group, tp to the store etc etc etc for a post I made on my facebook account. I understand you completely.

[Kitteh Whiskers]

33 minutes ago, Ceka Cianci said:

I don't think people can ban you from vendors and market place purchasing

They sure can 

[belindacarson]

Well this was a waste of 5 minutes reading time.

[Ultima Cloud]

7 minutes ago, belindacarson said:

Well this was a waste of 5 minutes reading time.

Thanks for your critique of my post. I will work harder and be sure to make posts that are more appealing to you in the future. OR I WILL BAN YOU!. 

Edited September 22, 2020 by Ultimo Constantineau

[Alwin Alcott]

58 minutes ago, Ultimo Constantineau said:

 Still don't get why SL allows this.

because .... many reasons, one for example is that merchants asked for it...

but don't make a drama about it, if they don't want your money, spend it somewhere else

[Kitteh Whiskers]

2 minutes ago, Alwin Alcott said:

because .... many reasons, one for example is that merchants asked for it...

but don't make a drama about it, if they don't want your money, spend it somewhere else

Exactly this. If they don't want your business, take it elsewhere and support a more deserving creator

[Ultima Cloud]

1 minute ago, Alwin Alcott said:

because .... many reasons, one for example is that merchants asked for it...

but don't make a drama about it, if they don't want your money, spend it somewhere else

To be honest the drama started when the vendor decided to take repercussions for a bad review. I mean, my opinion of them changed in a month from the time I saw an item in the MP to what I saw from them recently at the Signature Event. Rather than be like "oh hey im an idiot these guys are actually good" and moving on. Instead I was banned and hence the drama. And if this what merchants are asking for then it really says very little of them since literally nobody that sells things does this.

[belindacarson]

1 minute ago, Ultimo Constantineau said:

To be honest the drama started when the vendor decided to take repercussions for a bad review. I mean, my opinion of them changed in a month from the time I saw an item in the MP to what I saw from them recently at the Signature Event. Rather than be like "oh hey im an idiot these guys are actually good" and moving on. Instead I was banned and hence the drama. And if this what merchants are asking for then it really says very little of them since literally nobody that sells things does this.

I read the whole thing as a drama post, when it's just a simple resident to resident dispute

[Ultima Cloud]

Just now, belindacarson said:

I read the whole thing as a drama post, when it's just a simple resident to resident dispute

Reading some of your previous posts Im not surprised by your feeling the need to belittle other people's threads.

[belindacarson]

4 minutes ago, Ultimo Constantineau said:

To be honest the drama started when the vendor decided to take repercussions for a bad review. I mean, my opinion of them changed in a month from the time I saw an item in the MP to what I saw from them recently at the Signature Event. Rather than be like "oh hey im an idiot these guys are actually good" and moving on. Instead I was banned and hence the drama. And if this what merchants are asking for then it really says very little of them since literally nobody that sells things does this.

I read the whole thing as a drama post, when it's just a simple resident to resident dispute

[Ultima Cloud]

6 minutes ago, belindacarson said:

I read the whole thing as a drama post, when it's just a simple resident to resident dispute

Yes you've stated that already. Are you like some antagonistic bot or something?

Edited September 22, 2020 by Ultimo Constantineau

[Arduenn Schwartzman]

45 minutes ago, Ultimo Constantineau said:

OR I WILL BAN YOU!

Please, ban me too! If you do, I promise to issue the finest of insults in this thread, directed at you personally.

Edited September 22, 2020 by Arduenn Schwartzman

[Archivalda]

1 hour ago, Ultimo Constantineau said:

Firstly, sorry if this is in the wrong forum. Only option I saw for marketplace seemed to be for merchants only.

This avie just hit his 14 year mark over the summer. I've written many reviews pro and con. I've never been banned by a vendor for this nor did I even know this was actually a thing. Is this something that was implemented recently? 

At a recent event I noticed a vendor selling a few products I was interested in. The quality was very good, so much so that I decided to join their group to get updates and what not. So I attempt to join the group and get a message that I am banned from joining such group.. Hmm. As far I know I had not had any interaction with this brand before. I decided to try to purchase the items I was interested in. Cannot purchase item either. Still confused I decide to check the marketplace and see if I can buy from their MP store. Nope. Lastly, I did a search in my purchase history for items I bought from them previously and found one item and one review.

Granted, it was a rather harsh review. It was also blunt and honest. And when you sell things you kind of open yourself up to other peoples opinions. As someone who likes to buy things in this game it kind of rubs me the wrong way when a vendor name drops popular body brands when the item isn't actually fitted for either. In hindsight I believe this brand is kind of new and starting up so I did feel bad and deleted the review then apologized to the vender figuring this would be water under the bridge. A few weeks later, still banned.

I let this sit for a few days but it kind of ate at me and I felt the need to write about it. I don't understand why there are repercussions for negative reviews. Otherwise what is the point in having reviews? Why is this even allowed by SL? Also, from the vendor perspective, what is the gain in preventing someone from buying things from you? Once I hit that buy Ls tab the money is out of my pocket regardless. It's going to be spent somewhere.

So ultimately, the only thing I've lost is the real money I planned on losing to begin with (and maybe a bit of sanity for wondering why this is even a thing). Meanwhile, you lose any future purchases of mine or any suggestions to friends I might make and the suggestion they might ultimately make themselves. Not a big deal, but the type of product you sell are geared toward a relatively small (when compared to SL as a whole) community. One that I have been apart of since like 2008. 

Anyways, sorry this turned into a rant. Still don't get why SL allows this.

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SL can ban you.. well.. shadowban you if you say something remotely critical about them... just see all the comments in their YT channel... 5 or 6 comments and everyone praising the content.

The cancel culture is here! President and vice president are all about them.

[Syo Emerald]

12 minutes ago, Archivalda said:

SL can ban you.. well.. shadowban you

Whatever you want to say by that...

Youtube is not SL and this thread is not about being banned from SL.

[Archivalda]

Just now, Syo Emerald said:

Whatever you want to say by that...

Youtube is not SL and this thread is not about being banned from SL.

Read again, SL youtube channel shadowban you if you say something they don't like.  I'm not talking about insults.  Anything they don't like.  That's cancel culture right now and that's what's happening in society.  SL emulates RL in many aspects.  So it shouldn't have been shocking for me after 13 years in SL that these stupid politics entered. 

And what is the theme of this post: people cant just accept criticism.. and go ahead and cancel you, a whole community or whatever they want to.  A bunch of millennials that haven't face real world, like Evergreen University.