ZoeTick Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Having reviewed the extensive, but almost exclusively politically correct, anti-discriminatory, and hyper-sensitive, corpus of work attempting to define "flaming", generally by offering examples of situations where it is blatantly obvious that the supposedly unbiased commentator has an axe to grind, I have attempted to extract the essence of the interpretation of the concept by those given the power to label behaviour as such.Simply, it appears to mean "you made my stupid friend feel bad".Would you like to offer your own definition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irihapeti Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Tennyson Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 ZoeTick wrote: Having reviewed the extensive, but almost exclusively politically correct, anti-discriminatory, and hyper-sensitive, corpus of work attempting to define "flaming", generally by offering examples of situations where it is blatantly obvious that the supposedly unbiased commentator has an axe to grind, I have attempted to extract the essence of the interpretation of the concept by those given the power to label behaviour as such. Simply, it appears to mean "you made my stupid friend feel bad". Would you like to offer your own definition? Moot; you've just done it for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenMichelle Lane Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 ZoeTick wrote: Having reviewed the extensive, but almost exclusively politically correct, anti-discriminatory, and hyper-sensitive, corpus of work attempting to define "flaming", generally by offering examples of situations where it is blatantly obvious that the supposedly unbiased commentator has an axe to grind, I have attempted to extract the essence of the interpretation of the concept by those given the power to label behaviour as such. Simply, it appears to mean "you made my stupid friend feel bad". Would you like to offer your own definition? This is my fave kind of Flaming........ ..any similarity to the OPs name is purely coincidental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dresden Ceriano Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 ZoeTick wrote:. Would you like to offer your own definition? No... I'm too busy grinding my axe. ...Dres (That is a euphemism, right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Ceawlin Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 ZoeTick wrote: Simply, it appears to mean "you made my stupid friend feel bad". So it's a synonym for "bullying" and "trolling," too, then. Some hypersensitive souls even call it "terrorism." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dresden Ceriano Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Griffin Ceawlin wrote: ZoeTick wrote: Simply, it appears to mean "you made my stupid friend feel bad". So it's a synonym for "bullying" and "trolling," too, then. Some hypersensitive souls even call it "terrorism." Stop raping me!!! ...Dres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Ceawlin Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 LOL. OMG, I can't even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus Petrov Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 ZoeTick wrote: Simply, it appears to mean "you made my stupid friend feel bad". Would you like to offer your own definition? I think it's closer to 'you reminded me how stupid my friends are so what does that make me, huh!?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrie Juran Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 ZoeTick wrote: Having reviewed the extensive, but almost exclusively politically correct, anti-discriminatory, and hyper-sensitive, corpus of work attempting to define "flaming", generally by offering examples of situations where it is blatantly obvious that the supposedly unbiased commentator has an axe to grind, I have attempted to extract the essence of the interpretation of the concept by those given the power to label behaviour as such. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TWO TOO MANY COMAS THERE. Would you like to offer your own definition? NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenMichelle Lane Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Perrie Juran wrote: ZoeTick wrote: Having reviewed the extensive, but almost exclusively politically correct, anti-discriminatory, and hyper-sensitive, corpus of work attempting to define "flaming", generally by offering examples of situations where it is blatantly obvious that the supposedly unbiased commentator has an axe to grind, I have attempted to extract the essence of the interpretation of the concept by those given the power to label behaviour as such. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TWO TOO MANY COMAS THERE. Would you like to offer your own definition? NO! Oh that's the trick.... Insert a Coma into the sentence. How long should each of the the comas be for? Who will wake us from the coma? Doesn't too long a coma cause us to lose perspective about the sentence we read before entering into the coma? What if we never awake from the coma? When reading the paragraph with the inserted comas, are we allowed to re-read the previous text when we awake? I'm so confused!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexia Moonstone Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 KarenMichelle Lane wrote: Perrie Juran wrote: ZoeTick wrote: Having reviewed the extensive, but almost exclusively politically correct, anti-discriminatory, and hyper-sensitive, corpus of work attempting to define "flaming", generally by offering examples of situations where it is blatantly obvious that the supposedly unbiased commentator has an axe to grind, I have attempted to extract the essence of the interpretation of the concept by those given the power to label behaviour as such. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TWO TOO MANY COMAS THERE. Would you like to offer your own definition? NO! Oh that's the trick.... Insert a Coma into the sentence. How long should each of the the comas be for? Who will wake us from the coma? Doesn't too long a coma cause us to lose perspective about the sentence we read before entering into the coma? What if we never awake from the coma? When reading the paragraph with the inserted comas, are we allowed to re-read the previous text when we awake? I'm so confused!!!!!! http://blogs.sap.com/innovation/sales-marketing/thanks-social-media-average-attention-span-now-shorter-goldfish-01251966 I forgot what I was going to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrie Juran Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 KarenMichelle Lane wrote: Perrie Juran wrote: ZoeTick wrote: Having reviewed the extensive, but almost exclusively politically correct, anti-discriminatory, and hyper-sensitive, corpus of work attempting to define "flaming", generally by offering examples of situations where it is blatantly obvious that the supposedly unbiased commentator has an axe to grind, I have attempted to extract the essence of the interpretation of the concept by those given the power to label behaviour as such. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TWO TOO MANY COMAS THERE. Would you like to offer your own definition? NO! Oh that's the trick.... Insert a Coma into the sentence. How long should each of the the comas be for? Who will wake us from the coma? Doesn't too long a coma cause us to lose perspective about the sentence we read before entering into the coma? What if we never awake from the coma? When reading the paragraph with the inserted comas, are we allowed to re-read the previous text when we awake? I'm so confused!!!!!! I know it's rough being comatose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeTick Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 Perrie Juran wrote: I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TWO TOO MANY COMMAS THERE. I don't believe I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrie Juran Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 ZoeTick wrote: Perrie Juran wrote: I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TWO TOO MANY COMMAS THIER. I don't believe I do. my bad: i've corrected my spelling now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Perrie Juran wrote: ZoeTick wrote: Having reviewed the extensive, but almost exclusively politically correct, anti-discriminatory, and hyper-sensitive, corpus of work attempting to define "flaming", generally by offering examples of situations where it is blatantly obvious that the supposedly unbiased commentator has an axe to grind, I have attempted to extract the essence of the interpretation of the concept by those given the power to label behaviour as such. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TWO TOO MANY COMAS THERE. Would you like to offer your own definition? NO! One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeTick Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 Pamela Galli wrote: One. I am sorry Pam, but I have to disagree with you. In addition to the list commas, there's an optional, but correct, Oxford comma, and also an appositive comma, as demonstrated near the beginning of this deliberately convoluted sentence. The test I generally apply for the application of an appositive comma is whether you could replace it, and the opening clause comma, with parentheses. Like this: The test I generally apply for the application of an appositive comma is whether you could replace it (and the opening clause comma) with parentheses. For ESLers who are interested in furthering their understanding of a paradoxically arcane but still developing language, as well as those who slept through English 101 thru 109, this webpage - and the rest of its associated site - offers clear help. Not that you need it, Pam, although I would agree with what I presume is your underlying conviction, that too many commas (and parentheses) - and even hyphenated clauses - are an indication of pretentiousness of style and possibly intentional obfuscation of meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeTick Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 Perrie Juran wrote: ZoeTick wrote: Perrie Juran wrote: I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TWO TOO MANY COMMAS THIER. I don't believe I do. my bad: i've corrected my spelling now As an aside, I do not believe it is possible to flame a grammar nazi . . . . . . other than by the use of egregious LOLcats. Although perhaps you should note this press release from the Society Of Feline Typists (henceforth known as the SOFTies) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpman Lane Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I knew an expert on such innanet behavior...but his name escapes meh! hehehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 It depends on what precise nuance of meaning you want to give, I suppose. Contrary to popular belief, punctuation is not merely decorative but enables us to "hear" inflection, tone, and emphasis, and thus clarifies meaning.* Commas sometimes depend not on sentence structure but simply where you want the reader's voice to pause (perhaps for emphasis). Personally, I depend on dashes, to the point of overuse, because I like more emphatic pauses. (And btw I am a violent supporter of the Oxford comma.) I think any ambiguity about punctuating this sentence would be cleared up by moving the appositive clause forward (and I think also maybe putting it in parentheses). See what you think: Having reviewed the extensive, anti-discriminatory, and hyper-sensitive, but almost exclusively politically correct, corpus of work attempting to define "flaming", generally by offering examples of situations where it is blatantly obvious that the supposedly unbiased commentator has an axe to grind, I have attempted to extract the essence of the interpretation of the concept by those given the power to label behaviour as such. ALTHOUGH I also have to agree with Perrie that the first two commas could be omitted and still be correct, depending on whether you want the reader to pause for emphasis or not: Having reviewed the extensive anti-discriminatory and hyper-sensitive, but almost exclusively politically correct, corpus of work attempting to define "flaming", generally by offering examples of situations where it is blatantly obvious that the supposedly unbiased commentator has an axe to grind, I have attempted to extract the essence of the interpretation of the concept by those given the power to label behaviour as such. You could even omit the comma after "correct" without changing meaning: Having reviewed the extensive anti-discriminatory and hyper-sensitive, but almost exclusively politically correct corpus of work attempting to define "flaming", generally by offering examples of situations where it is blatantly obvious that the supposedly unbiased commentator has an axe to grind, I have attempted to extract the essence of the interpretation of the concept by those given the power to label behaviour as such. Again, it depends on how you want the reader to hear/understand it. * I found that the ONLY way to teach many students where a period goes is to have them read their work aloud and listen for when their voices dropped a little. No amount of sentence diagramming helped, but listening for that drop did. That said, IMO forum posts should get a little punctuation and spelling grace -- as long as the meaning is still clear, which too often it most certainly is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qie Niangao Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Jumpman Lane wrote: I knew an expert on such innanet behavior...but his name escapes meh! hehehehe Jumpy! His name escaping you is one thing, but nothing compared to your own escape. Welcome back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrie Juran Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 ZoeTick wrote: Perrie Juran wrote: ZoeTick wrote: Perrie Juran wrote: I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TWO TOO MANY COMMAS THIER. I don't believe I do. my bad: i've corrected my spelling now As an aside, I do not believe it is possible to flame a grammar nazi . . . . . . other than by the use of egregious LOLcats. Although perhaps you should note this press release from the Society Of Feline Typists (henceforth known as the SOFTies) Flame? I wasn't 'flaming' if that is what you are insinuating. I was just having fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeTick Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 Perrie Juran wrote: ZoeTick wrote: Perrie Juran wrote: ZoeTick wrote: Perrie Juran wrote: I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TWO TOO MANY COMMAS THIER. I don't believe I do. my bad: i've corrected my spelling now As an aside, I do not believe it is possible to flame a grammar nazi . . . . . . other than by the use of egregious LOLcats. Although perhaps you should note this press release from the Society Of Feline Typists (henceforth known as the SOFTies) Flame? I wasn't 'flaming' if that is what you are insinuating. I was just having fun. I wasn't insinuating anything. In fact I was stating that you could not be flaming me. And yes, I recognised that you were having fun; as was I; as was the intent of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeTick Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 Jumpman Lane wrote: I knew an expert on such innanet behavior...but his name escapes meh! hehehehe I am sure your memory is better than you claim, Jumpy. You can't spend that amount of time banged up in the Second Citizen cornfield without your cellmates' names becoming ingrained in your psyche. Your jailers on the other hand . . .who remembers them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeTick Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 Pamela Galli wrote: It depends on what precise nuance of meaning you want to give, I suppose. Absolutely. And I think very hard about such matters before I set my fingers to the keyboard. And I think even harder while reviewing the first draft, and any subsequent ones. I agree with most, if not all, of what you say, Pam. And you, or Perrie, or anybody else may believe that I have used too much, or too little, or even the wrong punctuation, but you would not have thought about what I wanted to convey as much as I have, and I do not make "errors". So criticism is rather futile. But may not by any means be considered flaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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