Persephone Emerald

Wow. 😳 I've been avoiding this thread because it would take up all the hours of my day to read it and I thought that by now everything that could be said had been said. I'm glad I saw this post though, because now I know where you stand - with the pedos. Try getting rid of that label. You'll probably have as much luck as a politician who admits to shooting puppies. 🐶 🔫

Don't delete your old inventory. There is not enough made to fit LaraX yet. Sometimes Legacy sizes fit LaraX with a alphas, but not for strappy clothes such as lingerie and bathing suits. I like the LaraX shape too, but it's not worth losing all the clothing made for old Lara. I found a free shoulder deformer on MP, which lets me enjoy wearing old Lara again. Look for a few nice LaraX outfits, especially bikinis and lingerie, so you can wear it when you want to show off your body more, but old Lara with a shoulder deformer or LaraX in Legacy sizes works fine for jeans and tops that cover the back & shoulders. Note: old Lara skins and almost all shoes work fine on LaraX.

Unearths several unexpected alliances like TEAMS.

News included Xeroxes of notes. L E A K S (reference to the Pentagon Papers)

Note the dates in this thread and please let it rest in peace.

Videos and denial erode respectability. T A P E S

I propose we start referring to body shapes as fruit - pear, apple, grapefruit, banana, kumquat, ....

What the f*k does the age of users have to do with this thread topic? The new TOS rules are about avatars that resemble children, which are now restricted from Adult regions. I've long stated on these forums - as a matter of clarifying the region Maturity rules - that child avatars were allowed in Adult regions. I didn't say I thought this was a good idea. A Moderate region is perfectly suited to most roleplay scenarios that could reasonably involve children. If a RP sim owner absolutely believes they need to have a realistic setting that includes both families and Adult activities, they can have 2 regions, one Moderate and one Adult, so that child avatars can stay well away from the Adult activities. A residential sim can do the same, separating family-friendly housing from adult-only housing. If people want to in engage in both kinds of activities, it's not that expensive to have a Linden Home for their family and rent an apartment on Adult land or join a group that has Adult facilities.

Actually, it's 91 pages now. I don't think I've ever seen a thread this hot. 🌶 🔥

How do you keep pulling this stuff out of your ass? It's like a stage magician's handkerchiefs.

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Tentacles and Slime doesn't. 😆 The Hentai, Tentacle and Monster sims are going to be in trouble if they have to ban anime characters.

Maybe those regions restrict them because they don't look like realistic humans? Not all anime characters represent children. Many represent teenagers, but some also represent adults.

Did you mean the Bible Discussion Study Meeting (BDSM) group?

My Mom was a 3rd grade teacher, and I usually spent at least one day each year with her class. She sometimes had groups of girl students sleep over at our house (which I now don't think was appropriate). I also tutored two 3rd graders for a semester of college credit. I guess I have a pretty good idea of what an 8 to 9 year old looks like, at least in the US.

AI is still pretty bad at determining age. I wonder too if a racial bias might be part of the problem, or if it's just a gender bias based on how the media expects women to look so young. You know there are people who a assume a young black girl is more "mature" than they would assume for a white or Asian girl of the same age. I'd guess the girl in that picture is no more than 8 years old, based on both her facial features and her neck and shoulder width.

It is now.

We all know that furniture stores sell PG and Adult versions right next to each other, right? They're allowed to be on Moderate land. Clothing stores can sell both modest clothing and sexy lingerie on Moderate land. Skin and mesh body stores can sell on Moderate land, even if their ad pictures show nipples. If a customer gets naked while trying on clothing or a skin, this is allowed in Moderate regions too. Very few stores have to be on Adult rated land.

Not having caught up with the last 10 pages yet, here's my take now on the child skin issue. Linden Lab cannot stop people from using system avatars, so they can't stop people from using whichever skins or BOM layers they wish on a child avatar that does not use a mesh body. They also can't stop people from using any current mesh bodies that are BOM compatible. I don't think they will delete existing mesh bodies that can present as children, because they won't want to break that much content and won't want to reverse themselves about using onion layers vs. BOM. They can rule that going forward mesh bodies and skins marketed for child avatars must have no genitalia or must have a covering such as a diaper, underpants or bikini bottom as part of the skin. They could also rule that mesh bodies made for child avatars may not be BOM compatible. I see no reason for bodies and skins made for child avatars to not have a normal chest with child nipples. A young child without a shirt should not be viewed as a sex object by any normal and reasonable person. Teen skins might need to cover nipples, but I personally take exception to requiring "female" nipples to be covered when "male" nipples are not required to be covered. There's also that whole intersex and transgender territory that makes a hard distinction between male and female nipples rather silly, imo.

"Mormon underwear" is only for teens and older, not for kids.

I have a system child avatar that I never use and a system elderly avatar that I also never use. I like the idea of having avatars that look like me as a child and me as an old woman, but I'd rather have nice mesh versions. If I had plenty of money to spend, I would create a child version of my RL self in SL with a mesh head and body. I would have no need to use it in an Adult region or with Adult animations. I might use it to shop for children's clothing or play at a playground.

It's impossible for LL to make that scenario impossible. The bad actors can easily get around restrictions on what kind of skins they can wear. Nothing can stop them from wearing an adult skin or attaching genital attachments or a Mama Allpa HUD. Nothing can stop them from using sex animations in furniture or in a HUD. Nothing can stop them from soliciting someone in an IM or arranging to meet them in a private sim or parcel with Privacy settings turned on. All Governance can control is what happens in public, and even then they are dependent on other users reporting what they see. Sensible people aren't going to be derendering mesh clothing on child avatars or using a "What is She Wearing" HUD to check their skin layer, so why even set a rule about skin layers for child avatars? The only reason I can see is to restrict what kinds of skins are sold as child skins, to create a rule to enforce against creators of content marketed for child avatars, not to go after everyone who might look like a child, a teen, a fairy or a cub.

I'm fond of making my avatar invisible and then attaching a companion pet or object to my center as an avatar. This works for a pet wolf or a spinning Twisted cube. I imagine this would work for an animesh child as well. An animesh Zooby toddler is probably cheaper than a Zooby child avatar, and according to these new rules it wouldn't even have to have modesty patches on its skin.

That does not look like a 20 year old's face. For comparison, here are pictures of some real 10 year old girls.

Linden Lab is only concerned with laws against what is depicted. RL behavior has nothing to do with Second Life.