Prokofy Neva

I could point out that they received less use....because they were broken lol. Either totally broken, as Twitter became, or sporadically broken (like the email to Typepad posting) such as to discourage people. I don't know why these platforms keep changing their interfaces, but it may be like Internet radio stations who constantly change their URLS, baffling and maddening those trying to make SL radios out of them: they want to drive people back to their properties so users click on their own ads or availing themselves to be data-scraped; they don't want to be accessed by someone else's property clicking on that owner's ads and being scraped by another party.

There is absolutely NOTHING "unethical" about posting outside SL. Linden Lab itself recognizes this and put share in the viewer. Taking it out is a technical matter, not a finding that it is "unethical". LL's jurisdiction does not extend past its servers and it can't police speech or images and how they are posted. As in real life, if you are in a public square, you mind wind up in a photograph; deal with it. No lawsuits have successfully been brought on the grounds of people being photographed in public spaces, although there are always some who try. The exception is if you photograph a person or place to use it for a *commercial* purpose, i.e. if they are trademarked or you exploit their IP in some way. But not the mere fact of them being in a photo. Another exception is the Video Voyeurism Prevention Act of 2004 which prohibits filming people in places where they have a reasonable expectation of privacy, their home, a gym dressing room, and notably casinos that have this as a rule on their premises. Then you can fined. No one has pressed a successful lawsuit invoking the Video Voyeurism Prevention Act for a virtual world, involving their avatar. Sure, it's a courtesy to ask people before you film them. But if I am snapping shots of an event, I will include random people who pass by. Don't tell me that they get all dressed up in their finest costumes and holdable dogs to hide and not be photographed. Ridiculous. SL is all about photographs as Flickr will tell you.

Don't use that link, sorry, that's the link FOR ME to keep me out, so get there from your view of the page.

Well, the Lindens could explain but maybe simply because it kept breaking down? And wasn't used enough to bother spending resources on fixing it? It feels like an executive decision. Here are the release notes. It references SL-11984 which I can't see because I'm banned from the JIRA. So maybe someone can read it and see why someone would propose this. https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SL-11984

I would think that if something is entirely removed from the viewer so that the user interface no longer has it, they won't put it back. And if they marked the Twitter malfunction as "fixed" not by being fixed but evidently by being removed. Well, that's a great idea, that works for kidneys, too, remove it entirely, you know?

So I noticed these liner notes that said "share removed from viewer" but I didn't grasp the ramifications until I tried to blog to Flickr while flying around sales and...it's gone. There doesn't seem to be any more option to post to Twitter or Flickr or anything. I was surprised to see that the Grid Status had a note about fixing the Twitter function, which I haven't gotten to work since the summer when they reported it. I thought this was an issue with the Twitter API and how it stops working in various ways in general. Some third-party merchants who made inworld post-to-Twitter devices also stopped working. It seems odd that they would post an emergency and imply they were going to fix Twitter, then take all sharing out of the viewer in a new patch the next day. ? (PS: it occurs to me that this was marked "resolved" simply because they removed the share function entirely from the viewer.) So I guess you have to "save to disk" and post from there. But the chances of that are reduced because it's a chore, for one, but more to the point, you have to hunt around and copy and save the SLURL as well, in order to post later. The beauty of the "share" from the viewer is that the SLURL was added automatically, even to Flickr. I realize that the aspiration of connecting avatars to social media was over-reach (except for perhaps Plurk) because people don't like to link their real life and SL identities. So it was a non-starter. But a lot of people have social media accounts with their avatar names. So now blogging to them is hobbled. Maybe it wasn't used much? Some time ago I was able to use the email photo function from the viewer to post to my blog on Typepad, because Typepad has a system of micro-posts from an email rather than navigating to the site and uploading. But then this stopped working completely (it always had its troubles) and Typepad said they couldn't see anything on their end. That is, it worked, but the pictures stripped out and you had only the text, which meant having to manually fix it but at least the SLURL was there. So that's why I changed to Twitter; when Twitter stopped functioning I changed to Flickr, which I don't really like and now I guess it's face the chores or do nothing (probably the latter). We've come a long way since the days when the Lab let one of its favoured sons with a huge screenshot-sharing site to use its mechanism to post directly to the secondlife.com front page -- can you imagine?! Naturally, it ended in tears, not even so much due to porn, but zillions of store and real estate ads posing as exploration photos. I also pointed out at the time that the third-party site could harvest people's RL emails. The host claimed these were dumped. Whatever. LL now combs through submissions rigorously to put one "photo of the day".

Yes, that truly is rare. I remember when that area had big palaces of land barons but that was 15 years ago. If it is Lindens that rezzed the boards, can't you file a ticket and ask them to remove them? They will do this.

For that matter put them at 4000 meters. The problem is to devise a rule that still enables this business model where 25 domes are stacked on a sim. I believe you could start stacking at 500 and still stack and still have sufficient distance between them. But for some reason, the dome businesses -- who have extracted profit out of sims the way no one else has -- decided they need to be in the view. This may be a form of advertising, where they imagine the few people traveling on a sim in which all the life has been killed will see a dome and want to live in one, too. I don't know what their reasoning is. But they currently have way more than the 20 m you need for chat not to travel, and camming from to another is still possible with the distances they do have, so there must be some other consideration.

The Lindens didn't deliberately zone the telehubs as commercial regions. If they had, they wouldn't have gotten rid of them. Philip once told me that the highest spending inworld occurred on telehub or next-to-telehub sims, yet he had an aversion to commerce that other early and even current Lindens share ("no business but my business") and he was determined to get rid of the telehubs once they had malls on them. It happened because Anshe and Blue cornered the market and rented out the stores for a high cost and "created value," if you will. The Lindens actually thought some of the more "bucolic" telehubs they created in later years after the screeching of oldbies would help people meet each other. In fact, it did, and I cited that in my defense of the telehubs. But they didn't meet in the way that the Lindens imagined, to form happy building collectives where they could return each others' prims... The oldbies were mad at the Lindens over the telehubs because it freed new people from their cartels and anyone could start in business not by cozying up to an oldbie and getting a corner in their store or getting on their network, but just ponying up the hefty telehub rental fee. That actually opened up the economy from failing oldbie businesses. The other factor was that before p2p, you had to fly great distances to get to oldbie businesses especially on the "colour sims" and they hated that and resented the telehubs where you arrived and were right near stores. Oldbies claimed falsely that telehubs were "avatar traps" based on just one telehub -- actually dominated by oldbies -- that did trap avatars (i.e. it rezzed so slowly with so much junk that people landing would get caught inside buildings and not be able to move). Yes, Philip Linden had this idea that he was putting Jane Jacobs into practice, but not with commerce or zoning per se, but with the notion of "mixed use," that a bodega underneath the "el" could appear next to an apartment building because people needed to shop after work. But in SL, you didn't "need" to buy bits or bling, the dynamics were different. I still have those mailboxes in inventory, but I only recall them in Board and Brown, and because they had this flashing green SL hand insignia that seemed to loom up at you, people didn't put them out. They never caught on. But they weren't everywhere just on a few sims that were "zoned" in the sense that there were streets and "suburbia" and the Lindens did not allow selling or skyboxes. And yes, that's what I said, Bellisseria *is* zoning. And it shows the great appetite of people to be saved from *each other* and have rules and have zoning! Remember when M Linden said "each other" was the killer app? What folly. People want to be rescued from others. They don't want serendipity in fact, unless it is managed serendipity at a "pickle party". This thought seems incomplete: "It may be rude of me to say this on LL's official forum but to be absolutely honest, if you want to buy and develop an entire sim, at least not unless you're a well established and experienced landowner already." You're saying "don't do that unless..."? Or saying you can do this in other virtual worlds for less? But there aren't any people there so there isn't commerce and creativity at the level there is in SL and that matters.

Doesn't LORE have one?

I didn't realize there were ranks OR that as you got higher they "unlocked privileges". Where can you see this? I guess Laetizia isn't liking her rank then.

I don't know why you're making that characterization of Eisenhower. https://www.nps.gov/features/eise/jrranger/5accompX.htm

A classic method of totalitarians and propagandists of various political persuasions is to try to "turn on their head" their opponents' values by claiming some obvious actual feature of their own system (like subjugation and brutalization of women) is actually not what it seems, and authoritarianism is actually a feature of their critic, or the enemy country or "ex-residents of ex-neighbour countries". Very typical. But it can't disguise the obvious features of this objectionable system. It's not anyone who has "told the BDSM practitioner what to do"; it's the BDSM practitioner who is telling women (and men for that matter) what to do. Backwards ideologies that borrow bits and pieces from oppressive societies over the ages or just make stuff up then claim it's their critics who are "trapped" or "unfree" blah blah. It's such a shop-worn method that it self-discredits. So thanks for sharing lol. This is a debate about *why men don't come into SL*, and so discussion of the tendency of men to dominate women is in order, and doesn't mean that if a discussion of the opposite, or men with men or women with men is not raised, that somehow the interlocutor has "failed" or is "hypocritical" or blah blah blah. Most of the men including famous journalists or journalists from well-known publications who don't like SL or even ridicule it actually tell you why: o they are uncomfortable because they can't tell if the women are really women when so many are actually men o they are annoyed at the boorish behaviour of their fellow males when they are let loose in a virtual world You don't have to look far to find these sorts of accounts so it's silly to keep pretending these reactions aren't factors. I've also noticed there is a certain type of blogger or podcaster who hates SL because they aren't used to having their porn talk back.

The Lindens are selling the abandoned sims on the auction list; you can also simply request an entire abandoned sim if you have the funds and tier. It's not going to end the abandoned sim tomorrow. But I see more the dynamics of abandonment now, and how it is a reaction not just to high tier or the inability to get tier paid with rentals and businesses, but it's the antics of a few destroying the view and commercial viability of the many. The Lindens ended the reign of the Bush Guy and his various imitators by finally realizing that they couldn't sell sims any more on their auctions, which used to have more on them and move faster. They couldn't entice people to faster more expensive sims on later auctions -- when they would be instantly crapped up. So while it took 4 years, Jack Linden finally made and enforced the ad farms rule and stopped caving to the notion that this was "creativity" or "freedom" when it led to tyranny of a few over the many.

It's completely unacceptable to have land "ownership" extend only to 256 because zillions of individual parcel owners have skyboxes and you couldn't accommodate them all. There are likely more individual owners with skyboxes than rentals, but maybe not. Even so, it's not a solution to end ownership of the sky above land; the solution is to prohibit what ruins the enjoyment of SL everyone else, the old community rule 2C. There is a big difference between skydomes that are taking up an entire sim and skyboxes that sometimes are very small and fit above a 512 or less. There are too many spam cars, period, and once we have the numbers that prove that hardly anyone actually rides them so there is absolutely no purpose in letting them continue to spam the highways, the Lindens might be persuaded even if the spam kings aren't.

No, I would definitely oppose a resident governance body, even if I were on it. and the Lindens would, too, especially if I were on it. And that's because it's not elected democratically, and doesn't exist under the rule of law but is an artifact of an authoritarian company, it wouldn't work. Even if you could somehow hold a Soviet-style ballot, you'd still have the problem of the lack of independent press and judiciary. The only point of this discussion is to see if there is any broad agreement on certain themes so that eventually the Lindens might put in rules or experiments. But no one will put up with resident government.

Oh, I think the Lindens should have done that ages ago. You could have: o residential o experimental (scifi, art, etc) o fantasy/RO o commercial o club The clubs could have extra avatar space. Since "open" is the default, what the Lindens could have done was set aside 4-square areas here and there that could only be clubs or only experimental or whatever. Zoning also implies the rules I suggested so these could apply to residential/covenant or however you would refer to those rules. I wouldn't bother trying to sub-divide because they won't sell. It should be as broad as possible. But the Lindens do not want babysitting or anything that makes them more responsible than they are already. Once Section 230 is redacted and there is more regulation of the Internet as there should be, that may change. I don't think there would be enough financial incentive for the Lindens to build entire zoned continents. They started in fact with zoning for residential, and created Linden Homes, like it or not. No commerce, no re-renting, no putting in search. I suppose they do allow skyboxes? But there aren't that many people who want the things you have put out like "scifi" and "art". If there were, they would appear, but they didn't. A few of the muck up the mainland now but if they were consolidated they wouldn't make up a continent.

Let's start by noting that the Lindens will never zone the legacy Mainland. They never have in 15 plus years, and never will. Their notion of zoning is to make the Linden Homes, and put extra rules in them or simply to build them in such a way that it is hard to make problems for other people, i.e. there are a lot of easements and levels so that view isn't so easily destroyed around the coast. They don't allow commercial activity, which is one way they keep out ugliness. But let's pretend they might consider this, or that groups of residents could actually band together and make rules among themselves that they might try to enforce at least with "soft law" i.e. by banning those who break the rules. I find this even less likely to happen than Lindens changing anything, because as in real life, various communes that get started usually end in tears; one famous socialist commune coddled heavily by the early Lindens ended with the builder bombing and deleting her builds to spite the people who controlled the sim when she had some sort of disagreement with them. I find that a lot of the time, you can keep areas nice by just informally getting along even in a superficial way with neighbours, so that you don't shock them with big black boxes in the sky or giant billboards or whatever. But here's what I think are the minimum guidelines: o No domes or builds of any kind in the view, which means nothing below 500 meters or even ideally 1000 meters for those with higher draw distances. The ability to de-render on some viewers isn't a solution, because when you're driving around or riding around you're not going to stop every few meters and de-render giant domes. I have studied these more and now I understand something I didn't at first -- it's not that they put them at 100 or 200 meter so that they dominate the view for 4 sims and kill all organic life underneath them because they want their tenants to look *out of* the dome to the pretty scenes that perhaps you and your neighbours created years ago; in fact they tint the glass of the dome so the tenants cannot see out and no one can see in casually unless they cam in. The reason they are so low, as it turns out, is because there are exactly 24 or 25 of them stacked up all the way to 4096, after which you cannot build or get teleporters to work. Apparently they guarantee their customers "privacy" that requires more than the mere 20 m required to keep non-IM chat private and not overheard in public chat. Or maybe they want to hamper camming. Or who knows. But it's the need to cram as many domes into a big pile up that puts them so low. Since most of them stand empty a lot of the time, they could cut out one or two of the lower ones and make for much nicer areas. But they don't need to, because usually when they buy a sim or part of a sim, they drive many people to abandon their land. I didn't realize this, either, until I saw the process unfold in several areas. Of course, the Lindens could figure out how many sims these companies own, and make a "dome continent" where they allow them all in one place to stack up. But that's not likely something they will ever do. The dome rentals aren't going to buy expensive islands; their money making machine depends on cheaper sims, often purchased abandoned or for low prices on the auction; stacking; and as I said, killing all organic life for miles. It's really quite something to fly around and behold -- continent after continent, killed by domes. Making the domes sky blue isn't much of a help when they loom over you like a spaceship. Plus, the undersides are scraggly messes of all the cheap sculpty landscaping they pile into the domes. They could mitigate this with false bottoms but they don't. o No self-driven vehicles -- People who tout the scourge cars once rode them years ago and retained a romantic memory of them. They maybe ride them more frequently and find them "convenient". But if you have land next to them, you see them coming all day, every day, every few minutes, with no one in them. They are driverless cars WITH NO PASSENGERS. Only the owner knows how many people actually ride them. The Lindens could track this and discover that there's only a tiny percentage of users, relative to the huge number of spam cars. There currently isn't a script that calculates how many *driverless* vehicles go by; only those that have people in them can register on some kind of visitor tracker. In theory, it could be done even manually to prove the point. But the Lindens always love people with grid-wide ambitious because they love load-testing for free by other people than their paid staff. There are a few forums' regs who howl at any indication that these scourges might be curbed. Still, this spam could be significantly reduced by having them put out ONLY at rez areas. That should be plenty. Every sim or every other sim has Linden rez areas; let the Lindens put out their own created vehicle, or let them choose their spam car friends even, but keep them only at rezzing areas and only when someone actually wants to get in their spam car. Particularly awful are the "out of theme" ones -- buses on the water, airplanes on the road, cars on the railroad etc. There's a green bus with wings that is particularly obnoxious. All of these pile up; get stuck at seams; don't budge even when you get in them to try to push them away. In any other context it would be conceded that these are spam. o Regulate billboards and signs and ads of any kind as to size, style, and location. Ideally, the Lindens should provide a network of advertising boards at hangouts, infohubs, and roadside. It would be a great sink for them and help the pent-up advertising of SL that then bleeds into other venues where it shouldn't be like the events list or bots that spam things or idiots getting into groups trying to sell stuff, etc. Those types will always persist but some of it could be addressed by advertising on a scale that isn't just the classifieds, which basically can't be seen or can't work unless you spend like $10,000. Sure, you can spend just $1000 and get some click-throughs, but it's rare. The Linden search system is rigged by their own admission to be "fair," so they don't let the highest bidder or the store with the most traffic rise to the top, as these are "gamed," but they use whatever they use, their secret formula, like Google, which they change -- various key words, picks that aren't paid picks; who knows, perhaps something like snapshots taken or purchases made. But whatever, search doesn't work very well and frustrates people trying to start or maintain a business. Perhaps the point here is to drive people to the MP, where search might work better, and the Lindens can skim off their 10%. So that's why I don't think we'll ever see any change here. Still, it can be posed as an issue and a need, and perhaps independent entrepreneurs could make better billboards. Currently, the lion's share of them are political messages bought up by people with strong views, money, and time on their hands. There's Trump, Sanders or the French yellow jackets. Or spammy things that aren't even in SL, but some kind of click bait Internet sites. Or "fishing games" where you can "earn Lindens" which don't really work. I fly around a fair amount and I don't think I have ever seen a thing on a billboard that I actually wanted to click on, except for the ones I maintain at some infohubs that people rent, and possibly a few other managed communities with ad signs like Mieville. o No photo-real "privacy" boards; flat trees and bushes, giant pictures, walls, etc. I find these things the ugliest manifestations in SL. There are very nice areas with really nicely maintained builds and landscaping for a 24 sim radius, but some idiot will put up a giant photo-real mountain picture or something, completely out of place, for "privacy" or because they "like to look at them". I ban them in my rentals because while you may like to look at them, those outside of your picture box don't. The ones that have sandy beach scenes from Florida in New England sims or other out of place things are the worst. This is something that I think absolutely nothing can be done about, as the Lindens won't police it and some forums regulars likely are hearty practitioners of this aesthetic barbarism. It's worth pointing out that if you are doing this for "privacy," it's insane, as anyone can came over or through those big boards. You can uncheck "avatars can see me" and be invisible. You can put up 3D trees and discourage most casual look-sees and look so much better. There are very cheap good-looking 3D trees -- I see my tenants put out all kinds of them. You can go up in the sky in a skybox with an orb. Or you can stop obsessing about someone seeing you on your cheap Mainland parcel and live with it, if you don't want to spend on a humper bunker island or homestead. There's more -- like not building smack on the property line for 16 or ideally 32 m -- but that's also something people endlessly argue about -- although when it happens to them, and a giant black box club modeled after the Black Sun in "Snowcrash," they get it better. What could you do to incentivize this better behaviour? Perhaps group gifts by a neighbourhood association. Perhaps the Lindens could hand out free land to "best neighbourhoods" or something. It's easier to envision the disincentives. For example, I know a store I will never shop at if they don't texture their outward-facing plywood pretty soon....

There's already a way to re-name the Mainland. It's called buying a private island, and naming it whatever you want, if that name isn't taken already. I think if everything is coded with that name, it might become a chore to write code to make some change or cover for that.

If your point is that the Lindens may make a profit on the float, that is, the money that is in their hands after you turn it into dollars, but before they let you have it at PayPal, yes, they may do that, although a Linden once swore to me that they didn't. But if they did, they'd be doing what every red-blooded Silicon Valley online business does -- makes bank off the float. PayPal itself does that. You don't instantly get your cash in your bank account unless you pay an extra fee; if you don't want to pay the fee, wait a day or even three. This is a normal if predatory practice.

Maybe the task should be to make SL more welcome for everybody, and then males, females, whatever, will take care of itself. The forums wouldn't be putting the best foot forward. And indeed, the topic of *this discussion* is indeed why women want to be subjugated and brutalized. So if you think that's fine, and some sort of "culture" or "lifestyle," then your plan is to attract the most brutal and authoritarian men who retreat from real life where their wives and girlfriends want freedom and equality, to a world where they can have a harem, and subs, and capture roleplay. I guess I don't see the Lindens, who are basically liberals and leftists, as doing that. I think if they were to deliberately advertise to the worst sort of men who want to brutalize women, before long, their peers in Silicon Valley and the tech press would go after them.

I have never found a grass in SL I am happy with, but some I'm less unhappy than others. An issue is whether you can afford to have the grass look good AND have a high land impact count. I think these merchants have pretty good grass: Simply Shelby KIDD alir flow/allirium Hayabusa But I find myself mixing and matching and using different ones for different things, for example Fourth Wall has the coloured grasses. Dysfunctionality (DDD) has grass with wildflowers. A lot of grass looks like a circle or has gaps in it requiring you to mix and match them.

That's silly. That's not the topic. The topic is, why, in our emancipated time when women are equal and have their rights, do some women wish to set the clock back. And some men revert to a less civilized time. And people in our age, who live in our time, did not adjust to the cultural changes that made the normalized bondage of marriage and relations between the sexes more obsolete.

I'm telling you the truth. A lot of relationships are destroyed when someone finds out the person of their dreams is the "wrong" gender. Ordinary men are creeped by the idea they may hook up with the "wrong" gender. You wanted to know how to attract more men, and I'm telling you the answer, like it or not. I don't care about someone's A/S/L myself. It's not my purpose or interest in SL. I'm telling you that if you wanted SL to have more men in it, you would have to provide them with more assurances that they weren't coupling with other men, as that can get them seriously angry and crazy. So you could have that path in SL, that it is more like a real life dating site attached to social media. And you can have the other path such as it is now. But social media and RL never really took off related to SL because the base population wants it to be a masked ball. But again, if the question is "how to attract more men," you need to ensure that there are more verifiable females. The idea that you don't have to do this, or that you shouldn't do this for ideological reasons, means that you won't attract more men. So it's up to you, what your goal is.

Because people have a propensity for doing what they are told, and some don't have enough inner drive to make their own way, and want to be told what to do. Some like being contrarian to what the prevailing norms are. The changes in culture have come very rapidly in the last 50-100 years, much faster than other times in human history, and this has been painful for some and they wish to resist it and have a place to enact the old ways.