Phil Deakins

I've read the whole of the jira page and it seems to me that all is well. What's happening is that LL are making inworld transactions (deliveries) the same as the marketplace deliveries so that they can respond to the myriad of marketplace non-delivery posts with something along the lines of "everything is working normally".

It's news to me that we europeans are used to being capped. I've never come across it here in the UK.

Nothing. I take money out of SL.

Don't worry about it. It's like that because the LL developers don't know what they are doing, which is nothing new, and such things are to be expected from them.

Luc Starsider wrote: /me is liking the amount of information coming from the Lindens lately. Yes but I do wish they would stop trotting out the party phrase, "Thank you for your patience", because most of the time, there is no patience to thank us for - we are forced to live with what they do and we don't feel inclined to be patient about it. Saying, "Thank you for your patience", is ridiculous but they all do it - follow the leader, just like lemmings. And because they all do it, it sounds so false, which it is, of course.

You might find such a spot if you describe the sort of items you sell.

Darrius Gothly wrote: The GSA indexes each Parcel as a complete "unit" .. reading and indexing the names and descriptions of the Objects set to Show In Search. It then assigns a "rank" for the words and phrases it finds. When someone does a Search for one of those words or phrases, the GSA pulls up the Parcels that contained them, sorts them by Rank and then displays them for you to view. I'm going to be picky here. The engine doesn't assign the ranks you described. It ranks pages on-the-fly for each query. It does assign a rank to each page though, which is similar to PageRank, but it doesn't assign ranks to words and phrases at any time.

I can be quite surprising when users become moderators. Some of them get to feel "in charge" and behave accordingly. Example: There's a Linden "commerce" group that was often spammed with ads. It wasn't bad, or a problem, but it did happen occasionally. So a few users asked to have mod abilities to deal with the spam and the spammers, and they got them. That was good. But what happened then was that at least two of them got to feel "in charge". "Because s/he could", one of them decided to regulate the discussions and decide what could and could not be discussed in the group. I came across it when s/he decided that the redzone topic shouldn't be discussed because it had been discussed earlier in the day. In a private conversation about it at the time, another of them asked me if I think they should allow such discussions. So that was two of them who decided that they were in charge when they were only given mod abilities to deal with the spam. So I am against resmods because some people have a tendancy to think more highly of themselves than they should - it's natural for some people.

I was going to post that you haven't listed any tools, as they are all methods, but then you said it youself so I won't bother. Search is another - the All and Places tabs (the Places tab still exists for V1 viewer users, who are probably still in the majority). Search can be the most successful by far.

Top Two Reasons Why People Should NOT Window Shop In The marketplace:- 1. Because many many business, big and small, do not use the marketplace to sell anything, so window-shopping there would cause people to miss a load of excellent choices. 2. Because using the marketplace to buy and/or sell only encourages Linden lab to screw every last penny out of their customers. Using the marketplace to buy or sell is aiding and abetting Linden Lab to continue with their policy of pure greed against their customers.

Dogboat Taurog wrote: are posts being removed? Yes. It looks like somebody doesn't like the word "fanbois".

No, Dakota. The marketplace's display of the number of matches in the displayed category is nothing like the DMOZ displays. Remember, I am not talking about the sidebar - I keep stating "not the sidebar". Contrary to what you say, when you view the main Home & Garden Top Level Category, you cannot see the number at the top for the total amount of products that are listed in the displayed category. Instead, the number displayed is the total for that category AND the sub-categories below it, as you well know, and yet is sits up there pretending to be the number for the category on display. The Home & Garden category is not any of the ctageories below it. It is the Home & Garden category. Except for the lowest level cats, all the sub-categories below it have the same fault - they all report the wrong numbers. It's just a piece of bad design. DMOZ is nothing like it - DMOZ displays the correct numbers (except their displayed number of editors, which has been totally wrong for a very long time, but that's different). If the bad design actually bothered me, I might well create a jira for it, but I've never used the marketplace for buying or selling, and I never will, so it doesn't bother me at all. Besides, the staff's efforts would be far better spent in fixing the non-deliveries that I read about so much than in even looking at a jira.

Hi Dakota. The marketplace is designed as a directory - with a directory catgegories structure. The 'standard' way of showing the number of items in the main area (not the sidebar) correctly is to show the correct number of items in the category that's being displayed. The way that the marketplace does is to provide incorrect information for all but the lowest level categories. The fact that LL placed a lot of items in the top level categories during the switchover is irrelevant. If the number isn't the actual number of items in the catgeory being displayed, then it's wrong. One way of doing what you want, and be accurate as well, is to also show the categories below the one being displayed, together with their numbers. Have a look at the DMOZ directory - http://www.dmoz.org/. If you haven't heard of it, it's the biggest there is by a long way. It's not pretty but it's huge. They do what you do - put the numbers including sub-catgeories against the categories. But it's obvious where the items are so it's not wrong information. Another, much simpler, way is to add some brief text along with the number, stating that the number displayed is the total if this category and those below it. As it is now, those numbers are wrong - they give wrong information. "Wouldn't you think that the Marketplace was run by a bunch of idiots if the Home & Garden category said it only had 75 products in it, but you can clearly see that there are more than 20K+?" Thare are *not* more than 20k items in the Home & Garden category, and that's the point. (There are a lot more than there should be because LL put them there themselves). My opinion of those who run the marketplace is irrelevent, but I would certainly have an opinion if the Home & Garden category *has* only 75 items in it, and yet the number says it has a lot more. And that's the way it is at the moment. I'm sorry, Dakota, but it's a piece of bad design.

I'm not going to read all of this thread, so I don't know if this has been said before or not but, to comment on the idea that landbot owners would grab such land, it's very unlikely that they will. You can't get a landbot to buy land at 1L/m these days and not even at 0.5L/m. To get a landbot interested, the price has to be lower than that.

SID is correct. Unless things have changed since I last bought land in the auction, the parcel is tranferred to you automatically, and the payment for it is taken out of your L$ balance automatically. I don't know what happens if you don't have enough L$ at the time of winning the auction though.

@Roche. Shoddy customer service:- When you pay LL monthly for some land and someone else uses part of the land in such a way that you can't prevent it (seriously overtanging prims, for instance), and LL doesn't lift a finger to deal with it regardless of how many ARs you put in, then LL is not providing that for which you are paying each month. That's shoddy customer service. When LL tell their paying customers that's it's ok to use a certain type of land for certain things, even going so far as to say that that's what that type of land is for, so that people buy that type of land with real money, and then turn around and put the monthly price up because people have been using the land in the way they said was fine, but now they say it was never ok to use it that way, it's shoddy customer service. When LL accept unfounded ARs as being the truth, and penalise their paying customers without doing anything at all to check on the truth, it's shoddy customer service. When LL reduces the level of "customer support" for paying customers to be almost non-existant, it's shoddy customer service. You want more?

Sassy Dirval wrote: For a very long time I was passive about SL sales -- covering the tier and my shopping habits was enough. The products I made where usually ones I could not find/buy anywhere -- or I didn't like the quality of current offerings. As a result, I filled some gaps in the market and sales picked up as my number of SKUs grew. When it got to the point where I couldn't spend fast enough, I got a bit more serious and aggressive with expanding. I applied my marketing knowledge to the expansions and now I'd put myself in the Hobby category and I do cash out regularly -- which just makes me feel lazy that I'm not building more, more often. That's not too dissimilar to my story. My first business was renting out skyboxes. I only once payed RL money to LL and that was to buy L$ for the first piece of land for the skyboxes, plus the initial premium account fee. During that business, I bought an 8k piece of new mainland with the intention of selling it at a profit when the prices went up, which was what used to happen with new land. But after I'd bought it, the prices stopped going up - the pattern changed - and I was left with it sitting there. It was no good for skyboxes because the sky around it had become full of junk and other stuff. So I decided to use 1k of it for a yard sale so that my tenants could sell their stuff without cost. I put some of the furniture that I'd made for the skyboxes in the yard sale too. Then I thought that I could make a few more things and have my own little shop there. As the weeks went by, I was surprised at how well my stuff was selling. I made more stuff and kept expanding the store into more and more of the 8k parcel. A few months later I was earning as much in a day as the 60 skyboxes were earning in a month. The whole thing was an astonishing accident. I'd no idea that so much could be made from furniture. It ended up with me owning almost all of the sim next door for the store, and getting out of the skybox rental business.

I don't use V2 so I can't answer your question, but it's easy enough to find out. Create an alt

Roche Runo wrote: I pointed out that I didn't want to silence them on that the method is which they make their complaint known was derogatory to the staff and the company that makes the game possible. It's not easy to be derogatory to Linden Lab because the company is like that. Calling someone who lies a liar isn't derogatory to the person, because the person does lie. Linden Lab deserves the comments that are made about the company and some of the staff there are the ones who make it so. Some of the staff there are very good and don't deserve the flack but the company as a whole does merit it. Paying customers have every right to complain about the shoddy service they they receive from any company, and Linden Lab provides *very* shoddy service to their paying customers. I wouldn't agree with insulting specific members of staff in public unless they start the insults, but that's not because some of them don't deserve it. It's because I don't agree with resorting to insults unless the other person starts it.

I was going to say that, if you could do it, it was before my time, but I came in 2006 so I'll settle on saying that, if you could do it, I never knew, and I never saw anyone without a name on show. I'm still inclined to think that it was never possible though.

Hi Dakota. Yes, I know that "Home & Garden" is a legitimate category. Being a top level cat doesn't mean that it isn't a category. The matching items numbers displayed in the main area (not the sidebar) are mostly wrong though - bad design. When a category is displayed in the main area, the "matching items" number should be the number of matching items in the category that's being displayed, and not the number in that category plus all the categories below it. The way that it's been designed, the only categories that display the right numbers are bottom level ones. Apart from bottom level cats, wrong information is provided because there aren't that number of items in the category being displayed.

No I'm not suffering because of it. It's what I've intended for a year and a half. I'm surprised it's taking so long - and it could still take quite a few more months. There are a number of people who make RL livelihoods from SL - it's not a rare thing. I think there were more before the financial slump though but I think that, even now, new businesses can grow to make good money from SL if a person puts time and effort into it. There isn't any successful SL business that can't be competed with successfully, imo.

First let me say "well done" for being able to cash out enough to pay an RL bill! A lot of SL businesses just make enough to pay their way in SL (tier and some shopping), and some don't even manage to make enough for their tier. So very well done! My business has deteriorated over the last year or more but it still just about makes enough for me to live on, bearing in mind that I don't have a mortgage or rent to pay. In the past it earned more than the average UK person's RL wage so it was good back then. In the future, it will continue to deteriorate to the point of closing the business. But that's not a bad thing as I decided to let it do that about a year and a half ago. It's taking a long time but it's getting there.

Another one that still makes me chuckle when I think of it ... Later in the skybox business, I improved the skyboxes with a decor system. From the menus, tenants could change the texture and colour of every inside surface, including the ceiling and the floor. There were 2 small walls inside the boxes, which they could choose to make disappear ("hide") if they didn't want them there. When they disappeared, they became phantom so that they weren't in the way. But I made a mistake when writing the system and I put a "hide" button in the floor's menu. Clicking it made the whole skybox phantom. It was in the system for quite a long time until, one day, a tenant IMed me to ask why he'd just fallen through the floor and plummeted to the ground. That's when I discovered the mistake. It made me laugh, and still does, when I think of unsuspecting tenants going through those menus, reaching the floor one and thinking, "I wonder what this button does" :smileyvery-happy:

Hippie Bowman wrote: I found this in the Knowlage Base! I use a version 1 viewer but i think it is the same. Showing or hiding usernames To show or hide usernames inworld, both in chat and over every avatar: Log into Second Life. Choose Me > Preferences from the top menu. Click the General tab. Select the Usernames checkbox. If the box is checked, usernames are shown. If the box is not checked, usernames are hidden. Click OK. Peace! That's for you to hide other people's, but you can't hide your own name from other people.