Qie Niangao

Scout Schwager wrote: Might as well live on Mainland That's why many of us do. In fact, for anything less than a full Homestead estate rental, you'll get to buy more view on Mainland for the same price. The obvious exception being if your tastes happen to match those of an estate designer -- which as you observed is an easier match for those whose tastes range toward the tropical sandy beach tiki bar aesthetic. Or steampunk.

This doesn't sound familiar. Not to be a scaremonger, but: any chance you could be getting phished?

i understand allot of forums use ip bans and this ruling would put the forum admins and owners in the firing line from those who have been adversely affected by forum bans It's still not clear to me the sort of "firing line" in which forums would find themselves. Somebody with an IP ban would sue them for... what? Are there non-frivolous damages that could be demonstrated to arise from a forum ban? Or is the idea that there's something criminal, maybe somehow a violation of a constitutionally protected right, or... ? (On the other hand, the ruling may have some good effect in the fight against copyright trolls, its actual subject. Even that, however, is far from certain, especially as it applies -- or doesn't -- beyond south Florida, or after appeal.)

Before burrowing deep into this, could you try switching the touch_start() handlers to touch_end() instead? Call me superstitious, but I prefer to think of it as once bitten twice shy. (It may have nothing to do with the problem; I haven't actually looked at the scripts beyond noticing multiple states with and without touch_start events.)

Practically nobody has ever been able to see MAINT issues. What we recently got was the ability to see new BUG issues, and even older ones but (as I understand it) only if those pre-existing ones have been released for public view by the original reporter. That's probably a sensible compromise, given that it would be pretty difficult to get consent from every commenter and, after all, the Lab owns the IP on everything posted to their site. I glanced at your bug earlier, before it got closed, and it was at that point marked as a probable duplicate of another (non-MAINT) bug report... oh, I see you've seen it, too, BUG-4596... I can see that the original reporter was April Heaney, so maybe she can be prevailed upon to release it for public view, if you want to contact her and ask.

So, what's the verdict? Too many drugs, or too few?

Cincia Singh wrote: Have you upgraded from your 14.4k modem yet? :smileywink: Modem !?! We dialed-up and whistled!

First, try logging in to a different sim if you haven't already. Could be content on the sim (e.g., bad mesh) that's crashing the viewer. Second, try using a test avatar (Develop / Avatar / Character Tests / Test Male or Female) with nothing attached, again on the premise that it could be something evil in the scene, but this time something associated with your avatar. Third would be something failing in your hardware. If you have another machine, try running on it. Otherwise it's just a crap-shoot, guessing what might be wrong (although maybe start by checking temperatures for the CPU and GPU). Fourth, and by far the worst: something corrupted in your inventory. Try logging in with a different, alt account, and see if it has the same problem. If not, and if you've already tried a different sim and different avatar on the main account... it's not looking good for your inventory, and that would require Linden help to fix.

Theresa Tennyson wrote: Before you sits a computer with a small, beige, green-screen monitor. A green-screen monitor?! You lucky bastards! When I was a lad, we dreamed of having green-screen monitors! We had to get by with a teletype and rolls of newsprint. Uphill both ways!

[...] ive found the object still shows as clickable even though you cant see it.. so i have to get round that by moving it inside another object to hide it and stop it from becoming clickable.. If the objective is simply to make the prim unclickable, the usual simple way to do it is to switch the script to a state that has no handler for touch, touch_start, nor touch_end events. As to the problem with moving a single prim in a linkset, Cerise is quite correct that it's annoyingly difficult to get that to work on the root prim (i.e., link == 1), but the root prim would also usually* receive touch events from all the child prims, too, which would defeat the purpose here anyway. ____________ *Unless there are touch-handling scripts in all the child prims. See llPassTouches.

Sudoquai Wonder wrote: Bitcoins can be accepted without Problems in Secondlife. You can even make a "Bitcoin accepted" Banner in front of your shop. Heh, yeah, I've seen some banners. But, accepting bitcoin in-world: Where? And then, how? Obviously anybody can do it through a website, and so through MoaP or llLoadURL, but how is it done for real in-world transactions? Or is it?

Yeah, I did say First Land had its problems. And I'd forgotten it actually sold for L$1/sq.m. -- and just how hot the land market was back then: L$1/sq.m. was much like giving it away because any ol' chunk of landlocked Mainland would sell for at least ten times that. As much as that made it popular with land baron alts, it was also popular with new residents and drew many folks to Premium for the first time -- including many of my friends at the time, some of whom went on to get their own Estates. Again, that's much what Linden Homes were intended to do, too.

Lots of possibilities. Maybe you changed a graphics setting at some point. Or it could be your network (try rebooting the router). Or it could be overheating; this recent thread describes a similar problem that (we think) was cured by cleaning out the graphics card's cooling.

I'm sorry I couldn't return to this thread sooner, and that my earlier posting seems to have generated so much confusion. It's certainly true that the Linden Homes program is just one option for how to use that 512 sq.m. of free tier -- one that doesn't require paying any one-time purchase price for land, as one must to buy a 512 elsewhere on Mainland. It is not correct, however, that the system otherwise works the same as it always has. Long ago (until maybe 2008?) there was a different program called "First Land" that gave new Premium members free 512 sq.m. parcels in new continents. This was a fantastically popular program while it lasted (not that it didn't have problems of its own), so I was thinking that a friend who had been away from SL long enough might have fondly remembered First Land, and could be disappointed by the standard, free-tier-only bonus, and possibly less disappointed by the Linden Homes option.

Excellent directions! And there is one skin tone that's closer, but to my eye they're still all red-shifted. I do also see there are other male skins at the fair, so maybe I'll find time to try again before the fair closes.

Sudoquai Wonder wrote: Oh really Storm ? Seems there is now a open discussion about Bitcoin in the Forum and i am still waiting for the big crash of Bitcoin Bitcoins can be accepted without Problems in Secondlife. So there is now an other alternative Currency to Lindendollar. How? I keep asking this in all these threads, whenever this business of accepting bitcoin in-world comes up. I can't seem to get anybody to answer what they even mean by it, let alone how they've implemented it (if indeed they have). I mean, if you couldn't see source, would you trade bitcoins in-world? (And if so, umm... just a moment. ... Okay, over here is where bitcoin is accepted in-world. Yeah, that's the ticket!)

Free from tiers, yes. It's possible, however, that your friend is thinking of the old "first land" program which actually awarded 512 sq.m. of land to a new premium account. That program is long gone, but instead there is the Linden Home program which allows premium members to use their 512 free tier to own one of several specific kinds of pre-built houses on Linden-designed sims.

FWIW, you can download .bvh files of all the built-in animations, then re-upload them however you want. See this wiki page for the link. As you see there, avatar_stand.bvh is set to loop in the built-in animation "stand", but if you look at the .bvh, it is in fact a single frame, so can be re-uploaded unlooped, for L$10. Unfortunately, I couldn't get the result to do anything interesting, so.. dunno. YMMV, I guess.

Right, because you're already a premium member and don't like Linden Homes (good taste, by the way; they're pretty outdated now), you should be looking for a different way to use that "bonus" 512 sq.m. of free tier. And that means buying yourself a Mainland parcel of 512 sq.m. or less*. The aforementioned "Buying Land" knowledge base article covers a lot of ground, so the Mainland section is a little light and hard to find. Basically, you have two choices: buy Mainland at auction directly from Linden Lab, or buy it from another user. All of Mainland is "pre-owned" at this point (and has been for years), so the auction parcels are just those that were abandoned by those previous owners, rather than being sold. Besides the auction page (which is uncharacteristically out-of-stock just at the moment), you can find land for sale by owners either by looking for appealing yellow spots on the in-world Map (zoomed-in with "Land Sale" enabled) or, more efficiently, using in-world Search, Land & Rentals tab, "View All Land & Rentals", selecting the desired area and price range for Type: Mainland. Most of Mainland can be had for cheap, compared to the recurring price of tier if one didn't have that free, Premium bonus 512. ___________ *In fact, you can go up to 560 sq.m. without paying any tier, using group-deeded land, but unless you find a parcel sized exactly 528, 544, or 560, we can leave that to "advanced topics."

Sudoquai Wonder wrote: There are some shops in Secondlife, which are accepting Bitcoin now ! Really? As I've been asking all along, by what specific means are these shops "accepting" bitcoin? If the whole transaction is done outside SL, as with MoaP or just llLoadURL, then never mind: nothing of interest there. (Well... it might be interesting to see if any customers would actually risk coin to MoaP vulnerabilities.) (Oh, and don't direct me to the bitcoin botfest in Miramare, whatever the heck that mess is supposed to be.)

(I'm surprised that nobody has answered yet. I'm surely not the best to answer, having only ever worked on full sims for others, not owning them myself. But in lieu of anybody who actually knows whereof they speak...) It seems you're most likely speaking of a private Estate region, not Mainland. (A full sim of Mainland can be a little challenging to find for sale, and a bit pricey up-front, but of course much cheaper per month: $195, compared to $295 for a full Estate sim. You have much less control of a Mainland sim, however, even if you own the whole thing.) It also seems you're speaking of a full-primmed region, not a Homestead. That's judging from the fact you want to rent some out, and want it to be an urban setting which tends to demand more land impact than a Homestead can support. Homesteads are much cheaper, $125/mo, but first you have to have a full-primmed region -- assuming you're going to be running your own estate, not renting from an existing estate. You might, however, start out by renting a Homestead and building there, so when you later get your own full-primmed sim (perhaps your own estate) you already know what you'll be rezzing there and how you'll be terraforming it, so you can "hit the ground running" after making that steeper investment. (A Homestead only supports 3750 land impact, compared to 15,000 for a full-primmed sim... but if you'll be renting out parts of it, you'll proably want to devote most of those for tenant use -- although of course that greatly limits how much you can build for your own use.) However you decide to do it, yeah, you can terraform a private region any way you like (and use RAW files to perfectly copy your region's terrain to another, or vice versa). You can hire others to help, or you may know people who'd be willing to help set up a sim just for the fun of it. (Not so likely to find anybody willing to manage rentals for free, although possibly in exchange for free rent.)

Nina Jashan wrote: Qie Niangao wrote: Pamela Galli wrote: No one in SL should be forced to do business with someone they dont want to. Again, just stop using the Marketplace. Problem solved. So very many problems solved. Just try it for a few months. Second Life is infinitely more enoyable when one simply pretends Marketplace doesn't exist. so obviously you're not enjoying the flow of big bucks from the MP like many others. Lol, no, I quit selling stuff in SL long ago. RL prostitution is so much more respectable, at least in the estimation of non-SL civilians.

Marianne Little wrote: Men has some to pick from now. It's fun to use male alts these days... so much great mesh clothes. Last skin I bought was from Aeros, they have 2 new skins at the Fair. Well, they have more than 2, but the rest was out before the Fair. I must demo 4 male skins, 2 from Aeros, Kooqla and Clef de Peau. Thanks for the tip on where the male skins could be found -- saved me a lot of time and frustration. Got all those demos, but jeepers: WTF is it with male skins this year, such that they must all be some paler or darker shade of fuschia? I guess it's some improvement from past years, when every male skin used the identical muscle-bound torso shading. Oh well. Saves me a couple thousand L$s, I suppose.

Pamela Galli wrote: No one in SL should be forced to do business with someone they dont want to. Again, just stop using the Marketplace. Problem solved. So very many problems solved. Just try it for a few months. Second Life is infinitely more enoyable when one simply pretends Marketplace doesn't exist.

And you can abandon your land you currently own, but at a loss to what you paid. You can also put a classified ad IW for your land for sale. Just a tiny clarification: although one could use an actual classified ad, that's very rarely done except by large land agents trying to sell many different parcels. Instead, just setting the land for sale automatically puts it in Search -- so give it a good name and description when you set it for sale! Everybody who's serious about buying Mainland either uses Search or looks for yellow plots on the Map, hence real classified ads aren't worth the cost and effort. I don't know the Boreal region and haven't had a chance to get in-world to visit. Generally snow regions fetch slightly lower prices than other land types, except early in the Northern Hemisphere's winter, but of course everywhere has some value -- worst case, it's a cheap spot for somebody to float a skybox. So a "reverse auction" makes sense if you have the patience to start at some higher-than-really-expected price and gradually drop it until somebody eventually buys. Used to be that landbots would buy any parcel anywhere for a low enough price, but they're no longer allowed. I imagine that humans have re-assumed that role, at a slower pace.