KanryDrago

Yes we are sick of talking to self entitled little *****s ar me all you want

Yes we are sick of talking to self entitled little *****s ar me all you want

No what you are neglecting is most dont start with a dislike of child avi's , we met them and then decided we want nothing to do with them. And a lot of sims without apparent adult content still ban them for very good reasons. So the conversation can be adult without someone keep telling us . You cant say f..k there are children about. Thankfully the more you campaign the more people turn against you and the more sims kids will be banned from

Because apparently those that wish to play children (some not all) think they should be allowed gridwide access

There is also a difference between rl discrimination against black and so called discrimination against child avis. Rl discrimination is wrong because its based on something you have no control over. Child avi's you do have a choice and you can simply put on an adult body to visit those sims you cant goto as a child avi. We dont need to pander to your choices. You want to make them fine but dont expect everyone else to change how they want to be because of it

The correction is fair I meant of course sims which have adult activity as their theme

It doesnt hurt my feelings I merely want to be able to not have to watch what I say , do, and wear on an adult sim. I am happy for you to play a child all I ask is you stay out of sims where you have no business so you can get on with your child experience and I can get on with my adult experience. This is why I goto sims where child avi's aren't allowed. You don't like that then frankly I don't care it is no more discrimination than in real life preferring to goto bars with a no children policy

I dont go to Sims where children should be the difference is if a sim allows children I dont campaign to have them banned I just accept it and go elsewhere. In effect your prescence restricts my sim choice too. A child avi has no business being on an adult rated sim in my view any more than a child should be in a bar or night club irl In addition you have a choice if you want to goto those Sims simply put on an adult avi to visit. See you aren't banned just one particular avi of yours is banned. Choices have consequences. You want to be a child then face the consequences

I don't have anything against child avi's however I do not wish to be around them, I suspect that goes for a lot of people. If a sim has child avi's on it on a regular basis I simply stop going there. It is a situation I personally don't feel comfortable with because it constrains what I feel I can say, how I act, what I wear. As you say child avi's are played by adults. Just because it is their rp I don't see why I should be told when on a sim where there is a child avi that I can't say that, do that, wear that. Your chosen existence in SL is affecting my chosen existence simple as that. Therefore sim owners have to decide do they cater for the handful of child avi's that want to visit or do they cater for the larger number of people who prefer to not be exposed to the censorship of their sl experience. That is why sims ban you

It is exactly this. Where child avi's are they change the way you can behave, the way you can dress etc. All my interactions with child avi's (thankfully few) have been fairly negative where you have been told off for how you are dressed or the content of what you are saying because child avi's. I goto sl to relax not be bound to change my behaviour because child avi's. Even apart from this I find the ridiculous baby talk they all seem to engage in nauseating. A sim which has a regular child avi prescence is one which I dont visit on the whole. This I suspect is why a lot of sims have a no child avi rule. Their presence puts others off visiting and using the sim. I don't hate child avi's I just prefer not to be around them. I have heard a lot of people say the same.

Thanks will do so when I can

thanks innula will try it

A flashing chat box is hard to ignore. Yes she has rlv, she just doesnt want to block all ims merely ones from a particular person

A question for everyone A collar can block im's I know however what I am looking for is slightly different A friend wants to be able to block the im's of a specific person but not block that person in local. The reason being she is on an rp sim and therefore wants the local chat but doesnt want any im's. Anyone know of such a thing

Doubt clubs will work in vr to be honest the viewpoint gyrating while you dance would be vomit inducing. I doubt as well social chat will work well in vr as it more or less constrains you to using voice and thats something SL shows to be unwanted by the majority of those I meet possibly because it constrains the gender they wish to appear to be. While I now appear to be negative about Sansar I was initially enthusiastic about it. The more I heard about it the more I came to the conclusion it was of little interest to me and the more it appeared to me that I could not see it taking off in any big way

The problem as I see it is Sansar is being marketed currently to creators and consumers seem to be an afterthought to Linden labs. Now I am not a business genius but it seems plain to me that you need a huge amount more consumers than creators so working out how to get consumers through the door should be paramount not an afterthought. Currently as someone who often uses vr experiences of the sort Sansar purports to offer I see no reason why I would choose an inferior Sansar experience over one custom codes using unreal or unity.

Personally I dont like this idea. I prefer to choose which companies have information about me. This would lead to the same as we often find for websites now with the whole sign in with facebook/google account thing. The troubling thing for me is I can imagine the following situation : I am at a club in sl I get chatting to someone. We get on they tell me come back to my house I have this game you will enjoy. TP offer comes I accept. Bang I am in IMVU suddenly that company has access to all my details even though I never made a conscious choice to use them. At least with single sign on such as facebook/google etc I am aware I am visiting a different website and giving them my details. I fear with a universal avatar that the push would be to make it seamless and half the time you would not even be aware you are spewing your personal info to other companies

And I am not the target market for Sansar either which is what I have been saying. However you are still not answering the point of what I have been getting at. Given we think the target consumer is someone who drops in occasionally. Given the experience creator can dictate what you can wear. Given the target consumer cannot easily customise any home they rent(assuming any of the target consumers want one as they only drop in occasionally) . Where is the market for avatar clothes, furniture etc? Answer is there isnt one. Yet these are mostly the creator types Linden Labs are pitching too. The only creators who will benefit from Sansar are whole experience creators as far as I can see These will fall into two camps 1) Companies using it to promote rl stuff 2) Experience creators who charge to goto their experiences In the case of 1) as I have said I think most companies will create their own custom experience and just give it away on steam or the rift store or the equivalent of the vive store . This is already happening In the case of 2) why would anyone pay when there are plenty of similar experiences given away free already on steam and the rift store and the vive equivalent I just dont see any path for creators to make enough to make it worthwhile to create. Sure some may do so for the sheer pleasure of it but not that many. Nothing you say contradicts my view that Sansar is a solution in search of a problem as in my opinion will be quietly shut down within the next 2 years as their wont be enough consumers to make it worthwhile

Yes I know they said that however What consumers is it targeted at? Which of these users are going to be full time residents that makes it worthwhile for creators to create clothes, furniture,buildings etc. Companies aren't likely to use Sansar in any case frankly it is easy enough to create a custom experience that they can control. I use those sort of experience a fair amount as I said I do like VR. So you make an assertion which I tend to agree with that Sansar isnt aimed at people that think SL is where they like to be. Tell us who you think are going to be the longtime residents that make being a creator of avi addons there worthwhile. I doubt you can because it is quite clear to me that Lindens don't have a clue who they are going to be either

In which case the users will be one off people sent from someone like Fords website to view a car model, dont see a role for the type of creators there that are in SL In addition why would any company want to do it when they can create a much better experience without using Sansar and have it work exactly how they want. It isnt that hard to produce a vr program these days. My prediction still stands Sansar wont have many long term residents that are interested in clothing , housing , furniture. There is just nothing in their planning to entice them.

Sansar is already 3 years overdue, I have little faith it will be a viable platform that people will want to visit in the next 5 years. Every document I have see from Linden labs tells me that they have no clue even what their target audience is going to be consumer wise

I am judging from what the Lindens say its going to be Experience owners can decide what you can wear strike one Multiple instances of an experience strike 2 Experiences that you havent been too take an age to download strike 3 No adult content strike 4 No easily customisable user housing strike 5 That is before even you get into I have to buy a whole new inventory. Linden labs basically dont understand SL in my opinion and Sansar is SL with all the things taken out that makes SL a place worth coming too. If I want experiences I can get those custom made from steam or the rift store, same with games. They are already better than anything Sansar can offer. Let me turn it round and ask you what Sansar can offer in your opinion to get me to come hang out there like I do in SL

I wouldn't expect too much from Sansar frankly. I have a powerful computer, have a vr headset and touch controllers. I like vr. Should be a perfect customer ....just one thing nothing about Sansar that I have seen so far remotely wants me to spend a second there. I really cannot see any reason for any of us consumers to want to go there if I am honest. Yes it may be great for creators to use but if consumers don't come who are you going to sell to?

still 6$ more and I value being able to complain about other tenants if need be when they are being antisocial (not that I have needed to as yet) plus if something happens my landlord is happy to defer payment for a week or two. LL wont do that

why would people wish to migrate to mainland even at 1$ a parcel? 1) Annoying neighbours that you cant do anything about 2) I would need to be premium costing a minimum of 6$ + 25$ for tier on a 4096 parcel whereas on a private island I pay just 5200 lindens per month which costs 21$ so it costs me 10$ more a month for mainland The only advantage is your landlord doesnt vanish and that is such a small problem that its not worth talking about it