Quartz Mole
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I think it's time to put the vampires back in their tomb for a while, since the topic has been pretty thoroughly explored.
To summarise -- If you think you're being harassed, file an abuse report. Also block your harasser. Depending on what viewer you're using, derender may be an option. Consider reporting the matter to the data protection authority in your jurisdiction. Garlic necklaces may or may not help.
I'm now locking the thread before we descend into a discussion of what sort of sauce to eat with our stake and chips (see thread on the Official Viewer v Firestorm).
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If people want to discuss consent in SL, they are very welcome to start a thread dedicated to the topic, either in this forum or (probably better) the Adult forum.
But this thread simply isn't the place for that discussion.
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35 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:
Peeve: Slow on the Forums today.
Maybe a little drama will happen to spice things up!Please don't. Remember Dyna and I have to clean up the mess.
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Gentle reminder
Quote- Interpersonal Disputes or Personal Negative Commentary: If you have a personal disagreement, do not post about it on the Second Life community pages. Residents who have personal differences have other channels of communication available to them — private messaging in the forums, IM within Second Life, or chatting within Second Life.
- No Flaming: "Flames" are hostile or disruptive posts, or messages intended to incite an angry response. Spirited discussion and constructive disagreement are welcome, but name-calling and airing of grievances are not appropriate in our discussion areas. We will also not tolerate any post that encourages others to violate any policy of Linden Lab
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[edited to remove quoted post]
If you want to have an extended discussion of something SL-related, be it "I don't like the way the viewer handles outfits, and this is why, and this how how I think it be improved" or "This is what I have to say about sexism in SL" or "Should child avatars wearing space suits be allowed to spam people with bite requests on nude beaches in Gor?" that's great, but it should happen in its own thread, because it's not really on-topic for a thread about pet peeves.
If, however, you want a discussion of something that isn't SL-related, then the SL forums, including this thread, aren't the place to hold it.
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Please, everyone, remember that the qualification " Posts made before 7/29/2022 will be left open unless policy violations cause them to be closed." in the forum participation guidelines that
QuoteNo Discussions Not Directly Related to Second Life: Please keep all threads relevant and directly related to Second Life and Linden Lab. Anything unrelated to Second Life is subject to moderation. This includes, but is not limited to, politics, social issues, current events, and Non-SL discussion posts (Examples such as tell me a joke, make me laugh, etc). If the thread could exist on a non-Second Life Forum, that is probably a good sign it doesn’t belong here.
Note: Posts made before 7/29/2022 will be left open unless policy violations cause them to be closed.
refers only to that particular restriction -- that is, while it wouldn't now be possible to start a thread about Pet Peeves that aren't SL-specific peeves, this one has been grandfathered in as a place there people can still talk about pet peeves provided that they don't contravene any of the other guidelines while they're doing so.
So please don't try to use this thread as a way to circumvent, for example, the rules and guidelines about discussing other threads that have been closed, or the moderation process in general, or by going off topic for the thread itself, which is, of course, "pet peeves."
If the discussion of a particular pet peeve turns into a discussion of something else (shortcomings in various different viewers, for example) then it should happen somewhere else. And if that something else is something that the guidelines say shouldn't be discussed in these forums (e.g. politics or threads that have been locked by a moderator) then that somewhere else should be somewhere other than the official forums -- virtualverse.one, perhaps, or the SecondLife SubReddit, or
TwitterX or wherever.Please help us to keep this thread open, because if it gets locked, it can't be restarted.
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1 minute ago, Rowan Amore said:
That will only change it temporarily? To save one, don't you need to create an asset (setting) from your inventory?
I'm not an expert, but when I've changed the parcel setting on my alt's Linden Homes parcel it seems to persist.
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Here's one way to do it
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22 hours ago, Gabriele Graves said:
As far as I'm aware this could be achieved with an Experience and scripting. The script would have to change the EEP settings for each agent on the land that has accepted the Experience at the time when it is supposed to change.
I don't think you need an Experience to use llSetEnvironment. According to the Wiki,
QuoteThis function overrides the environmental settings for a region or a parcel. The owner of the script must have permission to modify the environment on the parcel or be an estate manager to change the entire region.
An override for a given parameter can be set at the region scope or parcel scope. It can also be set for a single sky track, all sky tracks, or both. If an override of a given parameter is specified for both an individual track and all tracks, the individual track's override takes priority.
You do, though, need an experience to use llSetAgentEnvironment, which is what you describe, but I don't think you'd need that function for this particular use case.
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30 minutes ago, Arduenn Schwartzman said:
So, signature quotes about unnamed cheating golf players aren't allowed
. There goes my plausible deniability.
Sigs about golf, unless it's SL golf, are off-topic for SL forums.
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@Arielle Popstar @Phil Deakins I think if you want to carry on this discussion about viewer features, it might be better suited to its own thread in the Viewer sub-forum.
I can try moving it to its own thread there if you would like (though I hope I don't have to, because it's a somewhat fiddly process).
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45 minutes ago, Arduenn Schwartzman said:
According to the advice I have from Governance, they are liable to be removed if they appear to be political or off topic for SL.
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@BilliJo Aldrin @Gabriele GravesI've checked and the answer is an emphatic "No" on mentioning any RL political candidates or their campaigns in Forum Sigs.
However, mentioning your RP Campaign Headquarters in a sig is OK, so long as there's no indication in the sig of the RL candidate or cause you're campaigining for or against.
I hope that clarifies things for everyone.
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1 hour ago, Fay Starlight said:
So that's what causes crop circles. I'd always wondered.
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11 minutes ago, Perrie Juran said:
Which raises the question, under what category would you abuse report this?
Good question. I think I know the answer but I'll check with Governance before I commit myself.
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46 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:
I swear you had one, and now it's gone! (I had to check and make sure I still have it turned on.)
I can see Sid's signature. It''s an advert for his shop.
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3 minutes ago, BilliJo Aldrin said:
Actually, the campaign headquarters is RP, but my support for the (RL) candidate is real.
But you could drop by and get a poster and a lawn sign.
I'd love to see them all over Bellissaria
You will, I fear, be disappointed: from the Bellisseria Covenant
Quote*Activities and/or displaying items that could be construed by Linden Lab as political campaigning is not permitted in Bellisseria.
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27 minutes ago, BilliJo Aldrin said:
well then how about “Kama City Campaign Headquarters (RP)” for my chosen candidate.
but i wont do anything before i get clarification 😁
Thanks. I'd have thought that the general probition on political advertising in-world would also apply to advertising for an RL candidate at your RP Campaign Headquarters, but it's not up to me.
I've made Governance aware of this thread and the questions it raises, and doubtless we'll have a response soon enough.
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7 hours ago, BilliJo Aldrin said:
Are RL political ads allowed in a forum signature?
I doubt it, but I'll try to get a definitive answer.
Best to assume they're not allowed until further notice.
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I think this thread has now wandered so far into the woods and off topic that it seems an appropriate time to call it a day.
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Part of the idea behind the 16x64 parcels is that they give you plenty of room to sail your yacht in and out of your parcel, and even keep it moored there if you want.
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20 hours ago, Silent Mistwalker said:
As I recall, LL disallowed ban lines because a few Belli residents raised a big enough stink. At least, that's how it looked to someone who is always on the outside looking in.
I checked on this, because my recollection was that we never planned to allow ban lines in Bellisseria, and I'd not realised they were ever enabled.
It seems that, because of a miscommunication when the first regions were released, ban lines were not initially disabled but this was rapidly rectified when we saw the practical consequences of allowing them.
We didn't disallow them because people "raised a big enough stink." We disallowed them because those first few weeks proved, at least to our satisfaction, that our initial decision had been correct and that enabling them would make Bellisseria far less attractive and usable for everyone.
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34 minutes ago, Hunny Bunny said:
The quote you provided emphasizes the importance of avoiding unjust punishment, even if it means that some guilty individuals might escape consequences. However, in the context of banning someone from a virtual space like a person's home in SL, the consequences are less severe and don't involve physical harm, imprisonment, or permanent damage to a person's life.
It's essential to consider the appropriate level of response and consequences for the situation at hand. In the case of a virtual environment, actions like banning or ejecting disruptive individuals from a private space are often intended to maintain a positive and enjoyable experience for the community, rather than causing harm or punishment.
I took one of the first reports that led us to change to Belliseria Covenant to ban security devices that add people to automatic ban lists.
It was from someone who wanted to know why there were ban lines around the slip next to her houseboat. I suggested her neighbour must have banned her from the parcel, but she said that couldn't be the case since she'd only acquired the parcel the day before and had never met her neighbour.
I went to investigate and it transpired her neighbour had something that added people to the parcel ban list and she'd triggered it inadvertantly the previous day when flying round her new home looking at what the area was like. It permanently banned me from the parcel, too, when I flew over the parcel (after giving me a 1 second warning, as I recall, which is also not allowed).
Certainly "It's essential to consider the appropriate level of response and consequences for the situation at hand," and I can't imagine how anyone would consider it an appropriate response to ban someone from a private space simply because they flew over it when you weren't there, or even because they stayed within the parcel boundaries for too long after being warned -- very easily done on a houseboat region when you're hovering over the water.
That's why we now say people can be banned from parcels only after the parcel owner has considered the appropriate level of response for the situation at hand, as you put it, rather than set a device to its most aggressive setting and leaving it ban everyone who remains on the parcel too long when the owner isn't around, regardless of the actual circumstances.
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1 hour ago, Qie Niangao said:
Yes, that's what I've been trying to convey. The current baking service only works on the Blinn-Phong diffusemap. So when all viewers are PBR-capable and people want PBR content on their avatars, all the existing BoM content will be hidden on those surfaces. So if the Lab wants to retain any of the advantages of a baking avatar surfaces they're going to need to find a way to bake those glTF materials. Otherwise it's back to onionskin applier layers, one tattoo at a time. That just can't be what they have planned.
That's a very good question! I'll try to find out.
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This thread went completely off topic long ago, and now it's turned into sniping at individual posters, I'm locking it.
Please feel free to discuss differences between viewers in a new thread in this forum or in the SL Viewer subforum, but let's try to keep the next one on topic, enjoyable though the food fight has been.