[Yet Another Disillusioned Mainland Land Owner]

I think this thread has run its course.  If anyone wants to start a thread on how LL might improve the Mainland, then please feel free to do so.

[how to quick select just my stuff without grabbing others? not grabbing 1 object at a time]

It's also an option in the Official Viewer

[Where are the Lindens?]

2 minutes ago, Jaylinbridges said:

This thread has NOTHING to do with Nazi's.  Is this off-topic rant a test to see if the Lindens and moles are still monitoring the forum?  

I think Scylla's point was that she thinks LL ignore Abuse Reports about particular WW2 combat RP groups, which I think is on topic, but I agree that the discussion needs to stick with SL and not go off onto wider issues.

[SSP?]

14 minutes ago, Abnor Mole said:

<insert appropriate popcorn gif here>

[No More Free Lunch]

On this note, I think, sadly, that it's probably time to bring the thread to a close.

[Casino in Second Life? is Gambling Back?]

Fascinating though this discussion of firearms in space certainly is (and I'm now wondering about the implications of recoil in zero or low gravity) I'm not sure how on topic it is.   

Let's please stick with Social Casinos.

[News on Age Verification in Utah - Would Second Life be impacted?]

I think this thread is drifting some way away from the original topic, which is News on Age Verification in Utah - Would Second Life be impacted?

[Victorian Funfair at Merrymount]

1 minute ago, Evangeline Arcadia said:

Where is it - no link was provided and map search isn't returning a result. ??

 The blog post will, I am told, be updated once the map has updated and it's possible to TP to the region with a slurl, but in the meantime, make your way to Carrollton Bay and then approach the region from there.

1 hour ago, Patch Linden said:

Nestled just across from Carrollton Bay, Merrymount is a wonderful place for afternoon tea, a lazy Sunday playing games harkening back to the 1800’s, or taking in a nighttime fireworks display. Now open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. 

 

[Family Nudism Locations on SL]

I think the thread has now reached the point where everything that can usefully be said about the topic has  been said, so it's an appropriate time to close it.

[stolen my identity]

11 hours ago, Missy0102 said:

Someone has stolen my identity, changed my password and taken money from my account, how do I stop them

If you have not already done so, follow these instructions immediately

Help! My account has been compromised!

If you suspect your account has been compromised, contact us immediately.

Follow these steps:

1. Login to your account on the Second Life support portal.
   • Open a support case.
2. Enter the following:
   • Under What type of problem are you having?, select "Account Issue" from the drop down menu
   • Under Account Issue, select "I believe my account has been compromised."
   • Fill in the rest of the fields as directed.
   • Copy the Tracking Number for your new ticket
   • You will receive an email containing your ticket information.

Once we look over your submission, Linden Lab will place your account on hold, and investigate the relevant transactions. This may take a few days in some cases. Once we have finished the investigation, we will send you an email explaining our conclusion and explaining the action that will be taken with respect to your account. As a reminder, all transactions involving Linden Dollars are subject to our Terms of Service (TOS).

https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Account_Security

Please do not discuss compromised accounts in these forums.  

 

[Fallen Hunters Mc & Baddest Fang Reins JC]

Gentle reminder of the Community Participation Guidelines

Spirited discussion and constructive disagreement are welcome, but name-calling and airing of grievances are not appropriate in our discussion areas. 

[Unfair]

Please let's stick to the original topic, the pros and cons of banning bots from the Mainland.    

If people really want to have yet another debate about banlines and security orbs, they should conduct it in a new thread, not here.

[Scam Alert - Please Becareful]

1 hour ago, Rolig Loon said:

If you choose MFA, you don't have to use a mobile phone or get text messages. There are several free apps that will handle MFA codes right on your computer. I use Authy myself.  

Just to add to Rolig's advice, there's a very helpful discussion of MFA here 

 

[New Feature: Scripted Agent Estate Access Discussion]

Please let's not get side-tracked into sniping at each other's typos.    Satisfying though it is, it really doesn't contribute to civil and productive discussion of an important topic, and leads  only to the sort of bickering and ill-feeling that gets threads closed.

[New Feature: Scripted Agent Estate Access Discussion]

29 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said:

I'd give you odds that if I were to post a screenshot of some interesting inworld Profile, my post would get deleted quite quickly as a result. It's public but not within the Forum and therefore by precedent, not really "public".

It would depend on the the context, I think.   We remove posts for many reasons, of course -- that they're off-topic, for example, or they constitute harassment, or they're part of a personal dispute.    

[New Feature: Scripted Agent Estate Access Discussion]

If you think someone has posted something that is mistaken about facts, please correct them politely with a reference, or ask in the thread for clarification -- if it's something one of the moderators can answer, we will do, or we'll try to find out the answer.

Please, though, don't launch general attacks on people's credibility on the lines of "you were wrong about such-and-such earlier in the thread " (or, even worse, that they were wrong about something completely different in another thread) "so why should anyone believe anything you say now?"

That kind of argument, if you feel you must conduct it, belongs in private messages, not the public forums.

[New Feature: Scripted Agent Estate Access Discussion]

26 minutes ago, Jaylinbridges said:

The Linden response is not from the Lindens that specialize in land and land development.  Not all Lindens are experts in everything.   Testing shows your assumptions are wrong.  Zoha will explain how they can assign estate manager options on ONLY the region a renter "owns". Since they are in the land business, I will take their explanation as facts.

Don't forget that the estate owner can split their holdings up into several smaller separate estates.  I don't know offhand if they can do that in the viewer or if they have to ask Linden Lab to do it for them, but that's certainly an option.  It is, in fact, what the Land specialist I asked to clarify this suggested.    To allow bots into some regions on an estate you own but not onto others, you'll need split the estate up into smaller ones with separate settings.

[New Feature: Scripted Agent Estate Access Discussion]

3 minutes ago, Ayashe Ninetails said:

Hmm, I can't even see that option on Firestorm. Everything else is there but the scripted agent button. I was going to ask if there's a way for a lowbie parcel "owner" (renter with parcel rights) on a private island to tell whether or not the Estate Owner has flipped the scripted agent switch or not, but I suppose...not?

I could always ask them, but I'm with a company that owns over 900 regions, so um, I'd rather not bother customer service with a question like that. 😄

Take a look at https://lindenlab.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/31000169561-scripted-agent-estate-access-faq#How-do-I-confirm-that-my-region-is-obeying-the-Estate-setting-for-deny_bots?

While obviously you need to be an Estate Manager to change the access settings using the console window,  you might be able to check whether the setting is on or off by using the:

• Open the Region Debug window from the menu item:
  Develop > Consoles > Region Debug Console

• Type into the command line:

get deny_bots

[New Feature: Scripted Agent Estate Access Discussion]

9 minutes ago, bunboxmomo said:

Thank you quartz!
Ok so if we're understanding your reply *to your current understanding pending a response from another at person LL*,

The setting is estate wide, but individual bots can be added to an estate's allow list?
But the deny_bots flag itself is estate wide?

Just to make sure we're understanding right (pending the confirmation of course)

That's certainly my understanding.   You can allow or ban bots across the entire estate, but any exceptions at the region level have to be made by allowing/banning individual named bots on that region.

[New Feature: Scripted Agent Estate Access Discussion]

21 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

I do think we need a clarification from above on whether this can be applied on a region-by-region basis; we're spinning our wheels at the moment.

Not sure which Linden fronted this part of the equation, but I'm sure @Quartz Molecan find out for us. And of course earn our eternal gratitude  . . .

I'm trying to get a definitive answer, but I'm an estate manager for several Linden estates and, in the latest Official Viewer, I can see a setting on the Estate tab of World>Region/Estate that would let me ban or allow bots over the whole estate 

However, I can't see anything similar on any of the region settings that would allow me to override the Estate setting other than by allowing/banning named bots on particular regions.

This leads me to think it really is an estate-wide setting.

[New Feature: Scripted Agent Estate Access Discussion]

2 hours ago, bunboxmomo said:

Then we need clarification on if this is a Region level function, or an Estate level function, but all the correspondance we've had from Linden Labs says it is an estate function, not region.

 

@Quartz Mole sorry to bother you, but can we have clarification on this bit in the thread to clear this up?

As far as I know, it's an estate setting, though you can, of course, allow individual scripted agents access to particular regions by adding them to the allowed list.   

I've messaged someone who will know for sure, though, and will update this post if it turns out I'm mistaken.

ETA:  I've had confirmation that it's strictly an estate-level setting, so it can't be over-ridden at the region level unless the estate owner moves the region into a separate estate.

[New Feature: Scripted Agent Estate Access Discussion]

17 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Feels like a dumb question:

Along with the announcement  of the new feature ("scripted agent Estate access") - which is initially via Debug setting: Was there any official mention of a plan to make a more "normal" setting for this than a technical Debug setting?  Assumedly, this would be a change in the Estate dialog.

I can see many reasons why any "promise" to change it would be delayed, including:

- See how the change goes - such as "acceptance" by users

- Need to change both the official LL and Third-Party viewers to add it in a "standard" (non-debug setting) dialog

- Difficult to "promise" a valid timeline, and "soon" is not always an accepted answer

etc.

My question is because, not all users are "technical".

 

It's already in the Official Viewer.  As the blog post announcing this change (linked to in the first post in the thread) says

Details on using this new setting can be found here. You will need to download the latest version of the official Second Life Viewer to manage access on your estate through the Region/Estate floater

[New Feature: Scripted Agent Estate Access Discussion]

Please let's stick to the topic, New Feature: Scripted Agent Estate Access Discussion.

If people want to discuss topics like permissions for machinima, what to put in profiles, etc, it would be better to start threads specifically about those subjects.

 

[New Feature: Scripted Agent Estate Access Discussion]

1 hour ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

IS there currently a way to tell if a bot is registered?

Not that I know of, I'm afraid.

[New Feature: Scripted Agent Estate Access Discussion]

15 minutes ago, benchthis said:

when bots are ejected from the regions they are at every week for resets when they return to the region is their traffic counted then at least once or is there a way they can be modified like the debug un register somehow mod the code. 

If it's registered as a bot, it doesn't get counted at all.