Linden Lab your PBR is giving me a headache

[Zalificent Corvinus]

34 minutes ago, BriannaLovey said:

lol your hyperbole is so funny. Your knowledge on the subject is a bit outdated, though, by at least 5 years if not more.

That's because, like most people, I STOPPED listening to Linux Loudmouths over 5 years ago, utterly sick of hearing that you needed to run Venusian Linux, with a transplanted kernel from Jupiterian Linux, but with a customised set of files from Strawberry Milkshake Darkweb Linux blah blah blah.

 

Why do you think OS usage for FS shows that Linux Loudmouths make up UNDER 1.5 % of SecondLifers?

 

[Love Zhaoying]

I suspect some PBR headaches are from people banging their heads on things while yelling, "NOOOOOOO!"

[Vivienne Schell]

12 minutes ago, Zalificent Corvinus said:

Sansar didn't HAVE any success to undermine, it was dead in the water from day 1.

It didn't fail because there was some sinister cabal of "rotten people" who, against all reason, insisted  in publicly disagreeing with the fact free garbage you spout.

It failed because it was a badly made platform that didn't offer anything anyone wanted, and did it in an elitist way that needed stupid over-priced hardware.

 

Outstanding...

<Sarcasm Mode> There is a sinister cabal of people who disagree with you EVERYWHERE you go. I wonder how that works. </Sarcasm Mode>

 

 

Paul failed cloning himself in real time like 200 times or so. If had succeeded there´d be the amazing number of 250 people to praise that not needed, not demanded, not functional and not wished for giant dollar dump being the "future of the metaverse". And calling the few biilion human lifeforms who never demanded nor needed it "rotten" people.

[Love Zhaoying]

1 hour ago, Zalificent Corvinus said:

with a customised set of files from Strawberry Milkshake Darkweb Linux blah blah blah.

On topic, some Linux users switched to using "Wine" (at least, on Windows) blah blah blah. 

ETA: I added "blah blah blah", to make sure I was speaking the same "lingo"!

Edited June 27 by Love Zhaoying

[BriannaLovey]

Just now, Love Zhaoying said:

On topic, some Linux users switched to using "Wine" (at least, on Windows). 

Wine is a translation layer that lets Windows programs be run on Linux. It isn't an operating system unto itself.

[Paul Hexem]

6 minutes ago, Vivienne Schell said:

Paul failed cloning himself in real time like 200 times or so.

Wonder what @Scylla Rhiadra would say to 200 clones of me!

[Vivienne Schell]

💥

[Love Zhaoying]

3 minutes ago, BriannaLovey said:

5 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

On topic, some Linux users switched to using "Wine" (at least, on Windows). 

Wine is a translation layer that lets Windows programs be run on Linux. It isn't an operating system unto itself.

I know, I was just trying to be a bit humorous since Zal was ranting about Linux and listed "Milkshakes" (a non-adult beverage). Whereas, "Wine" is an adult beverage.

[BriannaLovey]

2 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

I know, I was just trying to be a bit humorous since Zal was ranting about Linux and listed "Milkshakes" (a non-adult beverage). Whereas, "Wine" is an adult beverage.

ohh heehee

jokes go over my head a lot :c

[Irina Forwzy]

32 minutes ago, Alwin Alcott said:

must have been a lot of power for 7 regular visitors

Including myself for about 1 hour to see the Egyptian exhibit.

[linkandlink]

I don't think just anybody will pretty much will understand how eeps works meeting one or two things will happen  that 1 people might end up quitting second Life or 2 or end up getting a new computer I don't think a lot of people understand how mesh works it's based on polygon count I have to learn this the hard way when I was using the blinn-phong system you can't have a lot of polygons or it will slow another person's computer down  if you have too many things going on regardless of who's to really to blame here saying that it's the Creator's faults isn't going to fix the problem what needs to happen you need to remake the code what I'm thinking what's going on it's not happening with second Life it's happening with a lot of 3D games that is running on older code the only reason why second Life is doing this they're trying to compete with VR chat  and we know it's not working at this point you need to remake second life from scratch and make it up to date. If you just want to compete with VR chat. But that's not the reason why we all went on second Life in the first place is it?, I'm pretty sure that we need to get new computers at some point but right now our main priority is to make the messages is clear  that we need to Prioritize how we make stuff, that are up to standard mean it has to be less maintenance why do you think most people are going to to make avatars more lighter the lesser the avatar weight is the more performance on your PC.

 

I may apologize if this does sound rude   I'm just also a bit concerned as well. But I'm not ready to pretty much use PBR system yet but learning to deal with it i'm just have trouble making a mirror and it was hard to pull off.

Edited August 14 by linkandlink

[Fluffy Sharkfin]

26 minutes ago, linkandlink said:

we need to Prioritize how we make stuff, that are up to standard mean it has to be less maintenance why do you think most people are going to to make avatars more lighter the lesser the avatar weight is the more performance on your PC.

It's true that SL creators can do better at reducing the polycount and VRAM usage of content in SL but reducing polycount and texture usage alone won't be enough unless you can also convince SL residents to lower their expectations as to what should be achievable on a platform like SL.  It's all too common to hear people talk about how SL avatar customization is the best on any platform and SL avatars look better than any other game character, but they often fail to realise that's because no sane developer would dream of using a game levels worth of geometry and textures for a single character.

[linkandlink]

1 hour ago, Fluffy Sharkfin said:

It's true that SL creators can do better at reducing the polycount and VRAM usage of content in SL but reducing polycount and texture usage alone won't be enough unless you can also convince SL residents to lower their expectations as to what should be achievable on a platform like SL.  It's all too common to hear people talk about how SL avatar customization is the best on any platform and SL avatars look better than any other game character, but they often fail to realise that's because no sane developer would dream of using a game levels worth of geometry and textures for a single character.

 that is true i do agree 

[Yorkie Bardeen]

19 hours ago, Fluffy Sharkfin said:

but they often fail to realise that's because no sane developer would dream of using a game levels worth of geometry and textures for a single character.

Jacket.

[Love Zhaoying]

1 hour ago, Yorkie Bardeen said:

Jacket.

Like, "straitjacket"?  

[Yorkie Bardeen]

41 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Like, "straitjacket"?  

I was being a bit silly, but I was thinking back to the original quote from years ago which compared avatars to a Quake game level.

[BilliJo Aldrin]

On 6/24/2024 at 6:18 PM, CaithLynnSayes said:

Ok, picture this scenario. Let's say you own a older car and your local governance has made a fairly steep bridge and your older car is struggling to get up and over it. Is your local governance suppose to buy you a new car?

My old car had a failing transmission, and without a running start, it couldn’t get up steep hills. i asked the city council if they could smooth out the hills, but they just laughed.

Eventually, when the car stopped moving forward at all I had it towed it to a transmission repair shop and had it rebuilt. It worked just fine afterwards, and I got another 10 years out of the car, untl I scrapped it this summer

[Fluffy Sharkfin]

1 hour ago, Yorkie Bardeen said:

I was being a bit silly, but I was thinking back to the original quote from years ago which compared avatars to a Quake game level.

That is an old quote!  Apparently attributed to Lee Linden, I couldn't find the original quote but it's mentioned in an old archived thread from 2005 (which goes to illustrate just how long "content overload" has been an ongoing issue in SL).  As Ventrella Linden put it at the time...

Quote

The issue of people putting Quake map equivalents on their bodies is part of a more general problem (and a difficult one) of people making things that are prohibitively expensive, causing a bad time to be had by all.

 

Twenty years later and we're now seeing the full extent of the issues a world filled with un-optimized content can cause when attempting to use anything but the most basic of real-time rendering techniques.