Luna Bliss Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said: 6 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: I see some truth in this. I learn more from the darkness then the light unfortunately. The darkness I equate with pain and those are the lessons I remember the most and do the most to avoid in future. I think it's good to see what you might have done wrong, as long as it's tempered with self-love and forgiveness. Sometimes it's difficult to achieve that balance. From my experience, when existing more in the light of love frequently the 'mistakes' fall away all by themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Persephone Emerald said: 35 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: Good point, and I actually do see one such person. Not a griefer, but someone who hangs around the community frequently and advertises herself as a succubus. She appears to be leaving the dark side now. 14 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: I see some truth in this. I know nothing of this person who describes themself as a succubus, but I don't think this necessarily means that someone is "dark" nor that identifying with "darkness" necessarily bad. Darkness is part of life. It can represent mystery. Excessive "light" can be bad too, such as toxic positivity, which does not allow people to express their real thoughts and feelings. Yes, agree...darkness is a part of life, and some want to come to terms with that darkness and play the role to the hilt in SL. For me, evil is when you take from another without their permission, and harm them. I've known people into the 'dark arts' or 'dark magic' in SL and they think it's fine to steal from others and harm them. I don't know if that's the case with the woman mentioned. Edited May 1 by Luna Bliss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaylinbridges Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 22 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: But it's evolving into something good, Jay. People are discussing optimal ways of relating to each other. Nah, you are late to the thread and hijacking it. Another 10 pages now at least. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 minute ago, Jaylinbridges said: 24 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: But it's evolving into something good, Jay. People are discussing optimal ways of relating to each other. Nah, you are late to the thread and hijacking it. Another 10 pages now at least. Seems to me you are trying to hijack the positive turn the thread took....but whatever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaylinbridges Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: Seems to me you are trying to hijack the positive turn the thread took....but whatever... Nope, I am hoping it is closed. The Title and subject are toxic. Start another thread on peace, love, and therapy. Edited May 1 by Jaylinbridges 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, Jaylinbridges said: 6 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: Seems to me you are trying to hijack the positive turn the thread took....but whatever... Nope, I am hoping it is closed. The Title and subject are toxic. Start another thread on peace and love. I'd rather title it "optimal ways of relating to others in SL and on the forum". Would you like to start it? Only fair since you're suggesting the additional thread.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathlen Onyx Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 7 minutes ago, Jaylinbridges said: Nope, I am hoping it is closed. The Title and subject are toxic. Start another thread on peace and love. You could just um...ignore it since you haven't really brought anything of value into the discussion. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Mistwood Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) The dark is comforting and safe. I will always choose the dark of an overcast day over the dreaded, burning, painful sun. The best way to see a clear sky is by moonlight. There is nothing wrong with darkness except what you assign to it. Consistently negative people are a bit of a downer. I see them as playing a character. I also see people justifying their outright rudeness. "Just telling it like it is" or "just being honest" or "I'm Dutch so I can be as mean as I want" or "I'm just JAQing off" It's likely that none of those justifications are even true, but they just sound good to excuse not using basic manners in communication. I have no idea what motivations people come up with in their own heads to justify consciously typing out a response that they know is mean. Is it just for the sake of feeling good themselves? I don't know. Maybe it feels really powerful to know you hurt someone's feelings when you didn't have to and it added nothing to a discussion. That doesn't seem very mature, but neither does commenting on a thread you think is pointless and wanting it to be deleted so no one else can discuss either. It's okay to just... leave. Another post may be more to your liking. Edited May 1 by Cinnamon Mistwood Spelling 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arielle Popstar Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 13 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: I think it's good to see what you might have done wrong, as long as it's tempered with self-love and forgiveness. Sometimes it's difficult to achieve that balance. From my experience, when existing more in the light of love frequently the 'mistakes' fall away all by themselves. Sure, doing an inventory of where one could do things better is a good start and really only possible to do honestly when one starts to understand that others love them unconditionally and they will not be rejected or abandoned because they discovered some not so nice things about themselves. One needs a good support structure when going on such a journey that is why I am a firm believer of self help and 12 step groups. Self love only comes after a while when one is on a journey of self improvement and the realization comes how others loved that person first, in spite of their problems and inconsistencies. True self love only comes after, not before. One cannot hate themselves for years and then suddenly make an about face and start to love themselves unless it comes externally first imo. It might just be the realization that one was loved all along and wasn't acknowledged but just like a newborn is dependent on the love of the mother to grow and thrive, we as adults require the same. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaylinbridges Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 minute ago, Kathlen Onyx said: You could just um...ignore it since you haven't really brought anything of value into the discussion. You are correct. I don't get involved in toxic threads attacking others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arielle Popstar Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 9 minutes ago, Jaylinbridges said: Nope, I am hoping it is closed. The Title and subject are toxic. Start another thread on peace. love, and therapy. Noone is interested in those sorts of threads! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rat Luv Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Cinnamon's on fire today 🔥 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 minute ago, Arielle Popstar said: 25 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: I think it's good to see what you might have done wrong, as long as it's tempered with self-love and forgiveness. Sometimes it's difficult to achieve that balance. From my experience, when existing more in the light of love frequently the 'mistakes' fall away all by themselves. Sure, doing an inventory of where one could do things better is a good start and really only possible to do honestly when one starts to understand that others love them unconditionally and they will not be rejected or abandoned because they discovered some not so nice things about themselves. One needs a good support structure when going on such a journey that is why I am a firm believer of self help and 12 step groups. Self love only comes after a while when one is on a journey of self improvement and the realization comes how others loved that person first, in spite of their problems and inconsistencies. True self love only comes after, not before. One cannot hate themselves for years and then suddenly make an about face and start to love themselves unless it comes externally first imo. It might just be the realization that one was loved all along and wasn't acknowledged but just like a newborn is dependent on the love of the mother to grow and thrive, we as adults require the same. Yes, although there are some things I don't like about AA, or wish they'd modify a bit, I've seen people change and have a fulfilling life again due to the love and support they felt in AA from fellow travelers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 4 minutes ago, Cinnamon Mistwood said: moonlight. There is nothing wrong with darkness except what you assign to it. Luna loves the moonlight.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arielle Popstar Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 2 minutes ago, Cinnamon Mistwood said: I have no idea what motivations people come up with in their own heafs to justify consciously typing out a response that they know is mean. Is it just for the sake of feeling good themselves? I don't know. Maybe it feels really powerful to know you hurt someone's feelings when you didn't have to and it added nothing to a discussion. Sometimes it is really because one realizes another is harming themselves by their own thoughts and attitudes. The problem is though that informing someone is really hard to do in a way that doesn't appear in some ways self serving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathlen Onyx Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 4 minutes ago, Jaylinbridges said: You are correct. I don't get involved in toxic threads attacking others. I'm confused...are you not involved in this thread? In a rather toxic, attacking way? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 minute ago, Arielle Popstar said: 6 minutes ago, Cinnamon Mistwood said: I have no idea what motivations people come up with in their own heafs to justify consciously typing out a response that they know is mean. Is it just for the sake of feeling good themselves? I don't know. Maybe it feels really powerful to know you hurt someone's feelings when you didn't have to and it added nothing to a discussion. Sometimes it is really because one realizes another is harming themselves by their own thoughts and attitudes. The problem is though that informing someone is really hard to do in a way that doesn't appear in some ways self serving. My brother had a great saying about all this...he said "Don't forget when you're pointing a finger at someone there's 3 fingers pointing back at you". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 8 minutes ago, Cinnamon Mistwood said: "I'm Dutch so I can be as mean as I want" "Blunt" is what some often say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathlen Onyx Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 2 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: Yes, although there are some things I don't like about AA, or wish they'd modify a bit, I've seen people change and have a fulfilling life again due to the love and support they felt in AA from fellow travelers.. See though AA isn't meant to be followed by the book. Take what you need and leave the rest. So no need to modify it at all. Even Step 9 where you make amends attributes what that means to each person. It isn't an absolute. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 7 minutes ago, Rat Luv said: Cinnamon's on fire today 🔥 IT BURNS!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaylinbridges Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) As I predicted, the toxic comments continue here. Now it is all about closing a thread that has a TOXIC title. I made one post agreeing with Gopi to close the thread. Look at what comes out of the woodwork now. Bye all - have fun. Edited May 1 by Jaylinbridges 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 minute ago, Kathlen Onyx said: 7 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: AA from fellow travelers.. See though AA isn't meant to be followed by the book. Take what you need and leave the rest. So no need to modify it at all. Even Step 9 where you make amends attributes what that means to each person. It isn't an absolute. Travelers? Are we sure Luna doesn't mean AAA? 😹 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arielle Popstar Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: "Blunt" is what some often say. For some it is the best way, for others it isn't. Discerning the difference requires wisdom and experience and even then it is prone to error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 minute ago, Love Zhaoying said: 4 minutes ago, Kathlen Onyx said: 9 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: AA from fellow travelers.. See though AA isn't meant to be followed by the book. Take what you need and leave the rest. So no need to modify it at all. Even Step 9 where you make amends attributes what that means to each person. It isn't an absolute. Expand Travelers? Are we sure Luna doesn't mean AAA? 😹 LOL poetic attempt FAIL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathlen Onyx Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 2 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: Travelers? Are we sure Luna doesn't mean AAA? 😹 OK THAT made me spit my drink out! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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