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9 minutes ago, Profaitchikenz Haiku said:

But neither have Android interests or any (stated) intentions to try and eat Fussbook's lunch.

Even just a rudimentary search shows both are interested in getting on the android bandwagon:

https://www.ibm.com/cloud/learn/how-to-make-an-android-app

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/developer/articles/technical/cloud-gaming-for-android-reshape-the-ecosystem.html

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5 hours ago, Gavin Hird said:

The iPhone and iPad processors – which are pretty much identical to the desktop M1 and M2 processors in terms of single core performance will not have any problems running a natively compiled viewer.

But we're not talking about the almighty apple whos store a full fat SL client would never be allowed to enter.

We're talking about the potato patch that is Android.

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2 hours ago, Coffee Pancake said:

But we're not talking about the almighty apple whos store a full fat SL client would never be allowed to enter.

I don't see any particular reason it would not be able to enter. It is already notarized and free apps is perfectly fine. 

Before you have made a test submission and looked at their response, IMO your take is simply an invalid assumption. 

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1 minute ago, Gavin Hird said:

I don't see any particular reason it would not be able to enter. It is already notarized and free apps is perfectly fine. 

Before you have made a test submission and looked at their response, IMO your take is simply an invalid assumption. 

Read the iOS app store guidelines. https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/

Full fat SL as it stands hits so many points as to require significant changes to the actual service before it could be permitted.

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2 hours ago, Coffee Pancake said:

Read the iOS app store guidelines. https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/

Full fat SL as it stands hits so many points as to require significant changes to the actual service before it could be permitted.

As I said, only submission can reveal their objections and if some, if they can be resolved. There are lots of strange apps and services out there already accepted. 

Personally I would not bother with the desktop apps, and time works against Apple for the other devices.

Both the EU and the US Congress will most likely break Apple's monopoly on app distribution within the next year or so.

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18 minutes ago, Gavin Hird said:

As I said, only submission can reveal their objections and if some, if they can be resolved. There are lots of strange apps and services out there already accepted. 

For all we know they may have been rejected already considering their stopped development on the Mac mobile they were working on.

It was never mentioned why the sudden flip flop but that seems the most likely cause. If they were rejected once, it is doubtful they would succeed in a future submission without some major changes that in all likelihood would drastically change S/L as we know it.

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20 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said:

For all we know they may have been rejected already considering their stopped development on the Mac mobile they were working on.

I have no idea Arielle, but I believe it had more to do with the technical requirements for iOS and iPad apps that deviated too far for comfort from the current mainly C++ base.

It would be interesting though to find out what they actually would say about "the service" for a submission of the desktop viewer. 

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13 minutes ago, Gavin Hird said:

I have no idea Arielle, but I believe it had more to do with the technical requirements for iOS and iPad apps that deviated too far for comfort from the current mainly C++ base.

It would be interesting though to find out what they actually would say about "the service" for a submission of the desktop viewer. 

Well you could be right though to my mind that would have been something they could have been more upfront about as it is a technical issue. Their lack of communicating the justification for abandoning the project I sense has more to do with an unwillingness to admit that maybe S/L is too pornographic for Apple's tastes.

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1 hour ago, Arielle Popstar said:

Well you could be right though to my mind that would have been something they could have been more upfront about as it is a technical issue. Their lack of communicating the justification for abandoning the project I sense has more to do with an unwillingness to admit that maybe S/L is too pornographic for Apple's tastes.

Just show them the right flags and Apple is all in 😉

 

You probably know that Tumblr tried to clean up its act a few years back, but the new business model did not work very well and they have drifted back to the old mode throughout this year, to the extent Apple required a warning to view certain content. But apart from that you can dig in to your heart's content.

I suppose the G,M,A settings and filters for SL in the same manner would satisfy Apple. I suppose they also have slapped a 17+ limit on the App, but then again since you cannot use the App store without registering a credit card, they (presumably) know your age. 

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29 minutes ago, Tastic2 said:

I have it running now on the raspberry and it runs  fast thanks to the raspberry pi adding full vulkan support on Oct 10 release.

Are you running a Pi4 or a Pi5 ? Or even an older one?

Silly Kitty! It's in the post above.

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On 10/5/2022 at 2:15 PM, Arielle Popstar said:

For all we know they may have been rejected already considering their stopped development on the Mac mobile they were working on.

It was never mentioned why the sudden flip flop but that seems the most likely cause. If they were rejected once, it is doubtful they would succeed in a future submission without some major changes that in all likelihood would drastically change S/L as we know it.

I don't want to get too off topic, but they had a mobile viewer before the current Unity engine one. And they stopped development because they realized it wasn't what anyone wanted. IIRC it was more like speedlight, which already exists, and wasn't anything like the new mobile viewer they're supposedly still working on. They've been very quiet about it lately so I'm not sure what's going on.

But there was a mobile viewer before the current one in progress and people were not excited about it. AFAIK the Unity mobile client is still being worked on. I would not give up on a mobile viewer yet. I think LL knows laptop and desktop is a shrinking market and they have to do something to get on other platforms.

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3 minutes ago, Flea Yatsenko said:

I don't want to get too off topic, but they had a mobile viewer before the current Unity engine one. And they stopped development because they realized it wasn't what anyone wanted. IIRC it was more like speedlight, which already exists, and wasn't anything like the new mobile viewer they're supposedly still working on. They've been very quiet about it lately so I'm not sure what's going on.

But there was a mobile viewer before the current one in progress and people were not excited about it. AFAIK the Unity mobile client is still being worked on. I would not give up on a mobile viewer yet. I think LL knows laptop and desktop is a shrinking market and they have to do something to get on other platforms.

Yes. You are responding to a post that was from more than 1 year ago (10/5/2022). There are lots of posts about the new Mobile Viewer.

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I have it running now on the raspberry and it runs  fast thanks to the raspberry pi adding full vulkan support on Oct 10 release. I am a sleep derpervated highly caffeinated  kat.

 

I will be in the other topic I opened to go off topic to stay on topic.

I just woke up "pawz FACE" 

Today is episode ][ "Revenge of the Log files" :)

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I was board one like night and cracked the boot loadeR on the quest two then disassembled luminaya, resigned the apk and sideloaded. That was when carfboard first came out. lol

Take away the kids cell phones  at lindon labs and don"t give them back till they have a mobile viewer. THERE PROBLEM SOLVED.

 

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The last time I used a apple, I was given a choice use the Apple ][ or be beaten by the principle for not using apple products. I chose the beating... 

LOok, I can stay on topic I just sort of drift back and fourth.

I tried them all.

So far Genesis x64 had trhe lightest load and download.

Singularity has not been updated in awhile and would crash because the have vlc*,dll dl issues .

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