Chris Corvinus Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Why does LL have this self-policing policy where users have to flag stuff in order for LL to see it and take action (if they even do)? Creators can upload single products in different colors and effectively spam the marketplace with useless products that are tagged with things that have nothing to do with a users search query, even when using boolean. I tried searching for RGB masks and got a bunch of womens shoe heels. Then I tried searching for "rgb AND mask" and got the same thing! Literally over 60+ products from this person and none of them have anything to do with masks and RGB. Look: https://gyazo.com/94360748a4e339e1912c575db1cd4226?fbclid=IwAR0371lW0F4e3i65Yho8fpTv0qP5k8d4Oxehle9-P9fY0LkwTFBsNDXDAhA Does LL really expect me to flag all 60+ product postings? Yeah, no. Hell no. Nobody in their right mind is going to do that. No company should expect this from their customer base, especially when they created the sinkhole that Marketplace is. LL should hire people just to sift through the muck and mire and clean it up. And install some damn uploading/tagging rules to prevent this crap from happening. People should only be tagging their products with words that are relevant with their product. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoiraKathleen Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chris Nova said: People should only be tagging their products with words that are relevant with their product. I agree! Isn't that one of the rules? What's wrong with people ?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Corvinus Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, MoiraKathleen said: I agree! Isn't that one of the rules? What's wrong with people ?!?! I don’t think there are any rules when tagging and if there are, it’s DEF not enforced because, you know, we are expected to spend all day flagging stuff. It’s insane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Pancake Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Keyword spamming is a real problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMe Jewell Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Chris Nova said: Why does LL have this self-policing policy where users have to flag stuff in order for LL to see it and take action (if they even do)? Creators can upload single products in different colors and effectively spam the marketplace with useless products that are tagged with things that have nothing to do with a users search query, even when using boolean. I tried searching for RGB masks and got a bunch of womens shoe heels. Then I tried searching for "rgb AND mask" and got the same thing! Literally over 60+ products from this person and none of them have anything to do with masks and RGB. Look: https://gyazo.com/94360748a4e339e1912c575db1cd4226?fbclid=IwAR0371lW0F4e3i65Yho8fpTv0qP5k8d4Oxehle9-P9fY0LkwTFBsNDXDAhA Does LL really expect me to flag all 60+ product postings? Yeah, no. Hell no. Nobody in their right mind is going to do that. No company should expect this from their customer base, especially when they created the sinkhole that Marketplace is. LL should hire people just to sift through the muck and mire and clean it up. And install some damn uploading/tagging rules to prevent this crap from happening. People should only be tagging their products with words that are relevant with their product. In this particular case, both words are actually in the description -- not just keywords: You see, there was a time when shoes came with feet that were colored to match your skin --- hence the RGB input -- and to wear said shoes, you needed the alpha MASK to make your system feet invisible. So, for that specific example about the shoes, the merchant is not keyword spamming. Both of those words are a legitimate part of the description. Edited July 17, 2021 by LittleMe Jewell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Chris Nova said: Creators can upload single products in different colors Now this part I absolutely hate. Would be nice to maybe add a dropdown menu on an item to choose which color. Flipping through 3 or 4 pages of the same item in all the colors is ridiculous. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said: In this particular case, both words are actually in the description -- not even just keywords: You see, there was a time when shoes came with feet that were colored to match your skin --- hence the RGB input -- and to wear said shoes, you needed the alpha MASK to make your system feet invisible. So, for that specific example about the shoes, the merchant is not keyword spamming. Both of those words are legitimately part of the description. Those need to be removed altogether. Invisiprim? Ha! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMe Jewell Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Just now, Rowan Amore said: Those need to be removed altogether. Invisiprim? Ha! Well, true - I was just commenting on the legitimacy of the words, not the worthiness of the product itself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMe Jewell Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said: Now this part I absolutely hate. Would be nice to maybe add a dropdown menu on an item to choose which color. Flipping through 3 or 4 pages of the same item in all the colors is ridiculous. T H I S IMO, that is one of the major failings of the MP - that every offered color must be listed separately. Edited July 17, 2021 by LittleMe Jewell 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Corvinus Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said: In this particular case, both words are actually in the description -- not just keywords: You see, there was a time when shoes came with feet that were colored to match your skin --- hence the RGB input -- and to wear said shoes, you needed the alpha MASK to make your system feet invisible. So, for that specific example about the shoes, the merchant is not keyword spamming. Both of those words are a legitimate part of the description. Blah. Thats the only response you’ll get from me about that 🙄😒😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Corvinus Posted July 17, 2021 Author Share Posted July 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said: Those need to be removed altogether. Invisiprim? Ha! There’s a lot that needs to be removed altogether. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwin Alcott Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Chris Nova said: Does LL really expect me to flag all 60+ product postings? seen the several posts by some Linden in this matter.... yes they expect that. ( customer support, never been the strenght from the company, and seems to be baked in the employees, they should operate 6 months form europe to learn that part... i'm affraid they will loose millions on fines/claims by the EU laws.) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Hexem Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 6:57 PM, Chris Nova said: Why does LL have this self-policing policy where users have to flag stuff in order for LL to see it and take action (if they even do)? Creators can upload single products in different colors and effectively spam the marketplace with useless products that are tagged with things that have nothing to do with a users search query, even when using boolean. I tried searching for RGB masks and got a bunch of womens shoe heels. Then I tried searching for "rgb AND mask" and got the same thing! Literally over 60+ products from this person and none of them have anything to do with masks and RGB. Look: https://gyazo.com/94360748a4e339e1912c575db1cd4226?fbclid=IwAR0371lW0F4e3i65Yho8fpTv0qP5k8d4Oxehle9-P9fY0LkwTFBsNDXDAhA Does LL really expect me to flag all 60+ product postings? Yeah, no. Hell no. Nobody in their right mind is going to do that. No company should expect this from their customer base, especially when they created the sinkhole that Marketplace is. LL should hire people just to sift through the muck and mire and clean it up. And install some damn uploading/tagging rules to prevent this crap from happening. People should only be tagging their products with words that are relevant with their product. On 7/17/2021 at 1:42 AM, Alwin Alcott said: seen the several posts by some Linden in this matter.... yes they expect that. ( customer support, never been the strenght from the company, and seems to be baked in the employees, they should operate 6 months form europe to learn that part... i'm affraid they will loose millions on fines/claims by the EU laws.) There's two reasons for this. The first makes some sense. Having employees manually check the marketplace would be millions of man-hours that would cost a lot. Making us do it saves them probably hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, if not more. The second is more conspiracy theory. Having lots of things on the MP makes SL look good, makes them money. "Can't afford a Ferrari in real life? Buy one and ride around in SL!" gets users logged in. Looking the other way and not enforcing any rules very hard is better for business than taking all those items down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Tennyson Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 10:45 PM, Chris Nova said: Blah. Thats the only response you’ll get from me about that 🙄😒😂 Gee, I wonder why... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Corvinus Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 27 minutes ago, Theresa Tennyson said: Gee, I wonder why... Oh, for crying out loud. Such an unnecessary comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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