Jillam Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 A friend and I were talking in im in Sl and he mentioned something about using a video camera in SL. Suddenly a camera was sent to him. Does anyone know how this may have happend? Someone appears to be watching his im's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pussycat Catnap Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 If your friend is using something like RLV, may have permissions set to let a 'master' chat spy. Or you might have them if you have RLV. - Otherwise, its not technically possible, though a shop in Pruni sim did/does sell a chat spy device that I used to AR now and then back in 2010, to no avail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillam Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 What is an RLV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pussycat Catnap Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 It requires a special third party viewer to even have it - so if you don't know you likely do not have it. RLV is a tool that lets objects and others take over your avatar. Its popular in certain roleplay themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillam Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 Im sure he doesnt have the RLV. Im having him contact linden to find out. The camera showed up right after he mentioned it but there was no way to tell who sent it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pussycat Catnap Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Right after? As in seconds? He may have sent it to himself - if he was wearing some kind of 'tool' device, like a special creator / builder HUD. - Sometimes they have chat based commands, and it could be that what he said happened to be one of the commands. For example, If I say 'fire' in my SL home, the stove goes off or on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qie Niangao Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 a chat spy device Just want to make sure: We're talking here about private IMs, right? Not local chat? (A scripted object can see local chat but not IMs. I'm no RLV expert, but it's my impression that the official RLV spec does not support seeing IM contents, only controlling whether and with whom IMs can occur. (Of course, a third party viewer could be doing anything.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czari Zenovka Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Jillam wrote: Im sure he doesnt have the RLV. Im having him contact linden to find out. The camera showed up right after he mentioned it but there was no way to tell who sent it. Were you and your friend in or near any stores at the time? I'm also thinking it could be a chat spy bot or similar device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qie Niangao Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Jillam wrote: Im sure he doesnt have the RLV. Im having him contact linden to find out. The camera showed up right after he mentioned it but there was no way to tell who sent it. Don't contact the Lindens about this. If he's using the Linden viewer, he doesn't have RLV. [ETA: That's not to say he shouldn't contact the Lindens about the larger problem, if we can't figure out what's going on. But specifically about RLV, the Lindens have no role in it at all.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky Gorky Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Jillam wrote: A friend and I were talking in im in Sl and he mentioned something about using a video camera in SL. Suddenly a camera was sent to him. Does anyone know how this may have happend? Someone appears to be watching his im's. You should get your friend to say "next week's lottery numbers" and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qie Niangao Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 The camera showed up right after he mentioned it but there was no way to tell who sent it. There is a way. He can check his account's "Transaction History" from the web dashboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrie Juran Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Qie Niangao wrote: a chat spy device Just want to make sure: We're talking here about private IMs, right? Not local chat? (A scripted object can see local chat but not IMs. I'm no RLV expert, but it's my impression that the official RLV spec does not support seeing IM contents, only controlling whether and with whom IMs can occur. (Of course, a third party viewer could be doing anything.) You are correct about this for RLV. And it's not available in Firestorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo Hermit Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Jillam wrote: A friend and I were talking in im in Sl and he mentioned something about using a video camera in SL. Suddenly a camera was sent to him. Does anyone know how this may have happend? Someone appears to be watching his im's. Your friend might just be having a bit of fun with you, pretending that someone is spying on you both. It really isn't possible that someone is listening into IMs. There are some people who choose in Second Life to deform themselves and blame other people for it too. People are strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
161488303349 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Echo Hermit wrote: Your friend might just be having a bit of fun with you, pretending that someone is spying on you both. It really isn't possible that someone is listening into IMs. i am tend to agree with this is what happened quite often friends will prank you. the more they a real friend the more they do. well mine do anyways lol. and i do to them back as well (: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pussycat Catnap Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 How did we get -this- far into this thread without this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillam Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 Thanks for all the reply's, he doesnt appear the be a prankster so I count that out. He doesnt use RLV. This was in Im not local chat. He did say it suddenly showed up after we talkied about it and we were in separate places at the time. I will ask him where he was when we were talking. Good thought about the transaction history. Ill have him check it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
161488303349 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 he may having been getting camera stuff off the marketplace previous can be some delays with market place deliveries. even up to 2 or 3 days sometimes. specially when use the shopping basket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Jetaime Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Jillam wrote: Thanks for all the reply's, he doesnt appear the be a prankster so I count that out. ... Some of the best pranksters are the last people you would suspect of playing a prank on you. :matte-motes-evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melita Magic Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I have heard in the past that it is technically possible IF the person reading your IM owns the server the region is on. I am not sure if that is still possible. I have also had someone answer an IM I was in with another person and I KNOW that was not the person's alt. They were also baffled. I know the person too well and they were not lying about it. So I have had this happen once or twice in Second Life too. I think it is possible sometimes that the person's alt is doing this to try to freak you out; but if you know that is not the case, it makes you wonder whose alt it is. (The server/sim owner or a Linden.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parhelion Palou Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 A region owner doesn't have access to IMs. That would require access to the software running on the server. The region owner only owns the data that the simulator software uses to create the region. The Lindens control the server and its software. Note: a region isn't tied to a specific server. Depending on the type of region, it could be running on one or part of a CPU on any of thousands of servers. Someone might hack into the system, but I doubt it's worth a possible jail term to listen in on IMs in SL. A compromised SL client or misbehaving Linden are two other possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melita Magic Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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