Tomomi Fukai

JUST going by the image: It depends on the club. Just showing up? No. I don't have any reference to the avatar size/height to go by, but that is a factor. Would I be suspicious? Probably. The schoolgirl outfit isn't helping you there. I would be looking at your profile for any other red flags and watching you closely. There is nothing in just that image that says to me you definitely underage, but there is nothing saying you're not either. If you ride the line and live in the grey areas you accept the risk.

Getting indignant. The only reason someone would feel the need to put in their profile they are an adult is because they know fully well they don't look like one. It's not that everyone who does that is a child avie pedophile, but everyone who is a child avie pedophile does. If they are a child avie not doing anything or going to an adult themed area not suited for children then their indignation is warranted. If they are and simply trying to use it as a shield or a pass they still act indignant in the same way. (thus the "kinda like you are") That's why I said they should be the ones people should be upset with, not the venue for deciding to just not allow child avies at all because they don't want to bother with having to try and sort one from another. When other people direct their ire at owners for banning all child avies instead of focusing on the ones doing that, it gives their unrighteous indignation an aire of legitimacy.

Nope. Only the people who think it's okay to look like a prepubescent 10 year old and hop on adult poseballs if they say in their profile they are over 18. If that's not you, then you have no reason to be insulted. Edit: I guess pointing out people do that is not okay because it's mocking and shaming... but mocking and shaming the people who don't allow any child avatars at their adult venue because of people like that is apparently just fine. The more you know. 🤨

Then I'll be very blunt as well. There are people (pedophiles) who make avatars deliberately designed to look like a child and then put something in their profile believing that gives them some sort of "cover" to do "adult activities". It doesn't. Then they get all indignant and upset when called out on it (kinda like you are now). But if you want to be mad at someone, be mad at them. And yes, I'm fully aware LL does not hold me responsible for their actions. I don't have a problem with child avatars. I simply don't want them in my place because it is an adult venue not suited for children.

Actually I'm not paranoid. I left for a month and when I came back a had a constant stream of them after they figured out nobody was saying or doing anything. Once I started kicking/banning a few I'd caught in the act it stopped. I can only assume they'd told the rest of their little group of friends and they found someplace else. I'm not sure what part of "there is no legitimate reason anyone needs to be at my place as an underage avatar" people are missing.

If you want to let child avies bump uglies in your place because you give them a free pass for having some bs in their profile about being an adult even though they appear to any reasonable person like a child that's your business. Pedophiles lie all the time. It's what they do. You'll meet plenty of them once they tell their friends your venue is a "safe space" for sexual stuff if that's what you want. And yes, in my place I am the one who decides if you can stay or have to go, just as you are in yours.

I have an adult venue. I've had problems with underage looking avatars coming to my place. I put up signs saying if you want to be here you need to look like an adult. The TOS may say you can be a child avatar in an adult area as long as you aren't actually doing anything adult, but there is no reason you'd need to be at my place as an underage avatar. I'm not going to wait around for them to do something. I'm just going to kick them out. They could say they are just taking pictures. They can say a lot of things. They can say they are a 200 year old elf even though they look like a 12 year old girl. They can say in their profile that they are 18+ (which tells me they know very well they look underage, otherwise why would you even go to the trouble of putting that in your profile?). Would I kick you out for looking underage based on that picture? No, but I still could if I wanted too without being out of line. The fact still remains I can kick or ban anyone from my land for any reason I deem fit.

We came up with a new game when I find a bunch of bots under the water in Belli. Walk into them with your avatar. First person to get a bot across a sim border wins.

I guess what I'll take from this is I will have one less person who will be fighting for one and I won't have them as a neighbor in my community. Again, I'm not seeing how that is a bad thing in this case.

You're saying they look similar to what people are turning their traditional homes into with add ons. Soooo people will get what they already have shown they want without spending their prims on such add ons. I'm not seeing how that is a bad thing. The reveal has only 5 houses on it. The actual sims will have 4 times that. So their goes your argument about them feeling empty once you get 19 neighbors in a sim. But based on your responses I'm getting the impression your lack of "community feeling" aren't related to proximity or an actual lack of said community.

Homes come up all the time, not just when linden releases them. At least two people posted they were able to get homes just last night.

Oh no. We got your point. It's just a very bad one. You said "Yeah hold onto something that I wasn’t happy with when I’m paying to acquire something I am happy with?" You're still under this false impression that you are not only owed not only a new Linden home, but the perfect home you are 100% satisfied and happy with. Problem is, I don't think you'll ever be happy. You'll keep swapping until you get the absolute best of the best, which statistically is very unlikely. In the meantime you'll keep complaining that there isn't an infinite number of choices available for you to easily get just the perfect one to your liking. It's like listening to Goldilocks in a game of musical chairs upset that she keeps losing because "this chair is too hard" or "this chair is too soft."

It would seem to me if you don't have enough of something for everyone you'd want to get the ones you do have into their hands as fairly as possible. That seems to me what they are doing, mixing up times and days as much as they can to make it as fair and random as possible. Sounds more like they are trying to keep people from camping all day. Even when they release a sim by the time someone says something in the group or forums they are already all taken. So it's really just happenstance and luck no matter what time of day you try. You might get a new home or you might get one someone abandoned.

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Linden Homes have always been a limited commodity. They only have so many. This is just the first time in 10 years the demand has been greater than the supply. They don't want to make the same mistake they did 10 years ago either. Look at the old Linden Homes on the map. There are 4 continents of them. Everyone wanted one because they felt they were "owed" one as part of their membership so they cloned them. Most people played with it for a bit then got bored and moved on or kept it just because they could and it didn't cost them anything extra. What do people call them now? "The SLums?" No one is owed a Linden Home. You are owed 1024sqm of free land tier. You can use that toward a Linden Home in the style you want if one is available. That has never changed. It's just that nobody has wanted them much since a decade ago. I want to see everyone who wants a Linden Home to get one, and at some point they will. And if the limited availability and slow roll of new (and what people seem to agree are better) sims means the people who get them seriously want them for all the right reasons and not just because they can, then the end result will be all the better.

My take away is that when people saw the houses by themselves they thought "Meh." But once they saw them in the context of a planned out community where every location was unique in some way it changed to "Oh hell yes!" So the very thing that makes them so desirable is the one thing that makes it impossible to simply pump out 50 or 100k copies overnight. If they *had* done that, the reaction still would have been "Meh" and they'd be left with a glut of empty homes. I think everyone understands this on some level and people aren't as much upset that they didn't "make enough for everyone" from the get go as much as they are upset they haven't been able to get one yet. It just sounds more egalitarian to cloak desire for yourself as concern for all.

On a side note, I always roll my eyes when I tp someplace that has 8, 10 or even 15 thousand active scripts on the sim but they have a scanner that puts my name on some billboard of shame and pings me with a message like "Uh, if you could remove some of your scripted attachments to help reduce lag that would be greaaaat."

I think you might be missing the point. No, there isn't a hard limit to the number of scripts you can use, but there IS a limit to how much processing time and memory the simulator can devote to everyone's scripts before performance degrades for everyone. So yes, you *do* need to worry because you have to share that sim with as many as two dozen other people. It's not just the number of scripts either. It's also what those scripts are doing. Someone can easily use a disproportionate amount of simulator resources with just 351 prims of stuff. If that happens people can report it and they'll find a bunch of their stuff returned along with a warning for abusing the sim resources. I had to do just that a few weeks ago when a neighbor in my sim on the mainland set up a giant breedables "mill" and had so many rezzed out constantly it drug the whole sim down to a crawl.

I wouldn't call it "democratic". Nobody gets a vote. It's more pure libertarian if anything. And definitely chaotic beyond measure.

You know much of the time you log in or teleport total strangers see your avatar naked anyway, right? Every time your body rezzes in for them before your mesh clothes do they get an eyeful.

I've seen plenty of avatars that were short but did not resemble a minor. I've also seen plenty that obviously do resemble minors and try to say they are just short, petite, normal, real life sized, etc. No one characteristic can be used as a metric for determining the age your avatar appears to be.

Only by fetishists who get all of their information from watching too much anime. "-chan" is not delineated by the age but by familiarity. Unless you think calling your grandmother "O bāchan" is saying she is a little girl. It's no more reserved for minors than "baby" is in English.

Saying you're not an underage avatar does not by itself make you not an underage avatar . The fact that you even have to say it means it's obvious you know very well your avatar doesn't clearly look like an adult. Otherwise, why would you bother? Don't be mad at the people who look at you and think you look like a kid even though you say you're not. Be mad at the ageplaying pedophiles who have been using that excuse for years. You have complete control over what your avatar looks like. If you don't want to be mistaken for one of them in an adult sim, don't look and sound like one of them in an adult sim.

This is where you went wrong. You're focusing on how disgusting and disturbing you thought content was. That just makes you sound like someone with a personal beef because you object to the content, not whether or not there is an actionable offense. So when they read your AR they immediately chalked it up to someone with a bug up their butt about something they didn't like and everything else became "blah blah blah blah." In regard to maturity ratings you should have kept it short and sweet. It is obviously adult content. It's visible from the outside. Done. End of story. The fact is, the only content that isn't acceptable in any circumstance is if it were depicting minors. By focusing on the nature of the content you undermined your argument and took it on an irrelevant tangent. If you want your AR's addressed, don't do that. All they want to know is, "What is the actionable offense here? Give me something and get to the point. I have 300 more of these to read today."

What they did wrong was making a big ugly box and filling the sim with bots. If they had kept the windows closed so you couldn't see from inside, left the outside of the house looking normal, didn't charge any L$ for anything and weren't selling anything, locked the furniture so you had to be in their closed group to use it, and didn't list it in search (which you can't in Linden Homes anyway) then it wouldn't be breaking the rules.