Orca Flotta

HEY! Did you just call me a Beeeoch??????? LOL nooooooo!!! I call those spamming orbs bitches. Dunno why but I always imagine them to carry the spirit of Sarah Palin.

Hmm, I don't think the sizes of mesh would make you problems because of height. Yes and no, Syo. Since I'm small and skinny in SL I prefer my chest to be rather flat. So, yes, XS is already too big for me. See this comparison stickfigure (me) vs milk-cow (a Lolas wearing friend): OMG! :smileysurprised: Is my noggin too big again? No wonder milk-cow calls me "lollypop".

Yeah sorry, me didn't thinked (or is that thinkered?) about rentals.:smileysad:

I'm going to make this as clear as possible for you Orca: You do not speak for anyone else, you only speak for yourself. I do not care what groups you are in nor what groups you created. They are meaningless here. Those lovely groups do not reflect the entrie user base, let alone the entire user base which uses vehicles. No one on this forum can speak for anyone else: The fact that you have now made the claim three times that you do shows your lack of understanding of this matter. No, it doesn't. It shows a lack of understanding on your side, sorry. No vehiclist is happy to be wiped off their path just because some stupid barbie didn't know she had a banline up. You can't tell me differently. And that's why groups like the OSP keep on sending notecards to those particular landowners. FYI: I didn't create any of the mentioned groups, they were in existence long before I joined SL. There is no "oranized community" of vehivle users. There are groups, some of which cross communicate, some of which do not. That is not a "community" - let alone "organized". Those are disparate groups. So the SL Sailing Association and the SLCG, who work in close contact with Linden Lab are not organized? That's news for me and everyone else involved in the development of SL. No, I will not "be nice" here. Your initial response to this thread and subsequent responses have shown that you believe your opinion concerning Linden Lab provided tools beyond point/targeted bans to be absolute fact. Each and every time you are presented with this, you backpedal for about half a second and then charge forward again. Enough. Ya, it's enough indeed. I have quite enough of your brickheaded - and dare I say mean - responses. For me it becomes more and more clear you don't give a wet fart for SL as a whole, as long as you can enjoy your powerplays on your land. You do not have any special right to explore anywhere in Second Life - if someone wishes to lock down their parcel or place up an object making use of Linden provided script functions to keep others off and you (or anyone else) is inconvinienced by it while trying to navigate a waterway that the parcel extends into ... Too bad. OMG, why do you need to repeat that over and over again? Even I mentioned that fact already before. Should that stop us from teaching people some fundamental stuff and work with them for the betterment of SL? Oh and so you are quite aware: The parcels I do presently have control over do not have scripted security on them at present. There is very little need for me to use them at present: My parcels are either opened up so that users may pass through or locked down to group only and white list access for non-group users. If I find that a user has bypassed the lockdown, then I will add in a scripted security system (again). Fair enough and applaudable. You seem to be quite educated on the whole affair. Unfortunately 90% of landowners aren't, and that's the reason for the many new open channels LL had to force through stupidly blocked areas. What is all of that there to protect? While it is of no concern to anyone else, my parcels are set up that way for no other reason than I simply can set them up that way. Exactly my question as well, regarding the first part. I never found anything worthy of protection in SL. The second part makes me cringe. Of course it's your right to do anything you fancy on and with your land, BUT is it good and wise? Does i make the grid a better place, does it help the commonwealth, is it socially acceptable? Do you also wipe out a whole kindergarten with your car just because you can?

With a height of 1,78 I'd have made a good photo/fashion model when I was younger but I had/have a silly babyface with completely inacceptable punky hair and was always a bit too skinny. I'm surprised to still find myself taller than the average American male of today. You people are tiny! Maybe that's because a huge percentage of your population are latin. Compared with the girls of today I'm not sticking out anymore. The new generation ... wow, they are super tall. Unfortunately many of them are also much fatter than we kids of the punk generation. Stil I'm shocked that with an avie height of 1,88 (6'2") I'm a regular dwarf in SL. Any smaller and most prim clothes won't fit me anymore and even the mesh XS would be too huge for me.

So again with the note from me that you chose to quote: There are conditions where these things are only going to be obtrusive to pervs and people sneaking into other people's private spaces, and conditions where they can be annoying. Step back from the absolutes a bit, and read that. I rereaded that and obviously misunderstood you the first time. I thought you are one of those peeps who rather cordon off their whole parcel just to keep the random perv out. Please accept my sincere apologies, thank you. BTW I don't think my post was raging or irrational, nor was it meant as an assault. And despite my best efforts I can't find any absolutes in my post neither. I'm mostly sitting here with a mildly amused grin on my face and a very mellow mood when I visit the forums. PS: why is my answer now orange as well? OMG, what have you done to me, witch? :smileyvery-happy:

At the time (someone help me out on this) the max sky distance was 1,000m or less. 768 if I'm not mistaken. That one only had a 10 sec warning but, as I said, the one I now own but am not currently using has from 10 sec - 60 sec in 15 sec increments. 10 secs is ample time for flying traffic to clear your airspace. On ground level, concering naval traffic, boats might need a wee bit longer to leave your parcel. When beating up against headwind we might have to do an additional tack. This physically unavoiadble zigzagging is tripleing the sailed way without adding any VMG (velocity made good). Particularly I love those Orbs that give you a choice, if you wanna comply and leave the parcel (yes, of course, but the wind doesn't allow me) or if I wanna visit the shop (what? Beeeoch, do I look as if I have nothing better to do right now than shopping for an orb?).

Yeah it's funny - If you search for "mature" o "adult" locations, you get foul-mouthed, half naked avatars. Before we talk any further, can you please be so kind to define what half naked means? In my definition there are only two states: dressed and naked. The first one means having your sexual reproductive organs covered, the second means no coverage whatsoever. Sexy heels and other toys aren't part of the equation. BTW, I count topless women as dressed. Also I don't know what foul-mouthed has to do with the maturity level. This would need a clear definition as well. I use the f-word all the time and I'm a bourgeois housewife, not a candidate for Cheaters and Maury, and 47 years old. In my definition most of what comes out of the mouth of rightwing politicians and church people is foul-mouthed, most swear words are not.

Individual, targeted bans only work on normal users. Griefers and those determined to be a PITA will laugh them off leaving the only recourse - lock down the parcel to group/white list access or use the scrpt commands Linden Lab provided. Yes of course they only work on normal users. I never said anything else. And normal users like you and me are the ones suffering from all those orbs and banlines the most. So 100 innocent sailors are bounced off your parcel just as a precaution to avoid the 1 random griefer? I can only hope, for the sake of SL, your parcel is not near any Linden canal/route. That lovely second quote? That showcases your assumption that you speak for anyone other than yourself (you do not speak for anyone else Orca - don't pretend otherwise) as well as your assumption that your opinion regarding functions that Linden Lab provided is anything other than an opinion. Oh my, oh my oh my :smileysad: Has everybody lost the ability to read - and comprehehend - written text by now? I don't pretend to speak for anyone else, I actually do so! As commodore of a yacht club, member of the SL Sailing Association and the Open Seas Project I don't assume to speak for anyone else, I know it for a fact! I'm not alone in my thinking but have a large comunity to back me up. Yes, that's right, the same people who brought you the Blake Sea in a co-op with LL and lots of sailing estates, the same guys that also run the SLCG and monitor very closely the traffic on public waterways. These two sections alone color your response to the thread. They give the feeling that you indeed believe you can tell others how to manage their parcels. No, heck no! What makes you think that? I said repeadly that every landowner is free to impose all kinds of rules on their land. But I don't have to particularly like security orbs and banlines, do I? In 90% they are indeed absolutely nonsensical and just fulfillling the need of some people to feel powerful and set SL into a state of martial law. Miserable people. You would have been far better off leaving those two sections out of your initial response. You would have saved a bit of face by admitting that you do not speak for anyone other than yourself in your subsequent response to me. /me facepalms Can you please be so nice and let me decide on my choice of words? I chose those words deliberately and wouldn't leave them out of the equation. BTW, are you now talking for the SL landowners association, for the whole forum or for all of SL to decide if I have lost face for anybody else? Just to drive that point home: I have used vehicles to explore Second Life - I do not agree with you whatsoever concerning global bans (group only/white list type) or script based systems. It is the rare system that is set to no warning or timer. I can't say anything about that, since I never ever used a security system of any kind on my land. I have no clue about the technical site of sec orbs. I also wouldn't know how to fire a gun, so I can't be against them? So I don't know in what point you're disagreeing with me. With that, your claiom to speak for everyone and to know how verhicle users tick ... Is smashed to bits. Oh, is that important for you, smashing others arguments to bits? I thought - I had the slight hope - to get something productive out of this thread. And since I very well know how vehicle users - at least the organised community - tick your point is null and void.

I have heard a rumour that LL is considering the introduction of an IQ test as part of the signup process; as with the armed forces and civil protection services, if you fail it, you are allowed to join. :smileyhappy: That just made my day! :smileyvery-happy:

You and me both! Did you use Nicholaz back then? Yep, Czari, the Nicholaz viewer. It was recommened to me by a very wise old sailor. Geeze, you remember how it didn't come with an installer but was just a couple lines of code you had to copy/paste into the original viewer? That was wayyy above my non-existing technical knowledge so that guy told me how to install remote access first and then he did it for me. As always I was so excited and babbled on and on until I received a message "take you durty fingahz off the keyboard, silly!" Anyhoo, Nicholaz opened my eyes to the wonderful world of what's possible if you don't let LL dictate their viewer on you. FPS was much better and from that moment on I was able for the first time to use my boats accordingly without crashing every 5 minutes. And I decided to clue up more about komputahz and the interwebz, replaced my Siemens/Fujitsu 12" subnotebook with integrated Intel graphics with a much beefier Asus lappy with a discrete AMD gpu. After I burned up that thing - after not even one year - I finally decided to get a desktop. And not just any desktop but one purpose built by a local PC shop. It's all groovy now. Yeah, baby!

Some of us "non full time sailors or pilots" also sail and fly. This is the same old crappola, you're right, about how people think they have a right to say how any landowner must open their land for others. I am sure many people spend a lot in sl that sail..and? I am not sure if you are aware of a nifty little hud you can wear so you will avoid ALL ban lines and non public areas on mainland so you don't crash and burn and get sent home home. It's really a small investment and may make your experience better without inflicting your freedom beliefs on others of their land I'm not trying to tell anybody how to use their land, it's theirs after all. They are kings and queens of their realm, no question about it. I'm just trying to make ppl think! Are those banlines and orbs really necessary? What do I try to protect here in the first place? The answers you get are mostly of a very vague and emotional nature. Nothing a savvy SL resi should bother with. I for one never felt any need to have a security for my lands, but that's just me. And I'm very well aware of the nifty little hud, even mentioned it in my post. Thank you. Problem with these things is that they kinda defy most vehiclist's need to travel as light as possible. So I strip off my AO and all scripted clothes/hairs only to replace them with a much heavier hud? Thanks but no thanks. And the usefulness of that thing is rather soso. Pilots and sailors can't just pull over or stop completely in mid-air, just to avoid a cordoned off parcel before they hit it. All in all, I hate to say it again but it's obviously necessary: I'm not denying anyone's right to homeland security, I'm not trying to cure paranoia and xenophobia. I also know quite well that without land owners there would be no land. I'm just petitioning everybody involved to START THEIR BRAINS!!!

Oké, is my english really that bad? How did you manage to misunderstand me so grossly? 1. AR don't work, I know, but maybe it helps them understanding the term "privacy" better once the lab gets involved with a Tssk Tssk. What sure works is ban from your parcel tho. Of course if they are mean and destined enough they always find ways to come back. But, OMG, do you have the most special sexbed in your bedroom that you need to build such a Ft Knox around it? 2. I know I don't have any guarantee to freely roam all the grid. And I never claimed such. 3. I didn't state any opinion on access controls but I indeed do speak for everyone! I know how vehiclists tick in general and I can assure you some pretty parcels that appear in a blur along the wayside is neither our concern nor do they interest us. 4. True about the land. And I never questioned that. What I did and still do question is the stupid policy by LL to sell land in the most fragile and questionable places. Like up to the very last corner of continents and narrow waterways. I know some places where one single owner has blocked off access to a whole continent! Nautilus --> Corsica eastern corrridor was blocked by one of those pesky heart sims, owned by a knuckle headed profiteer. So LL had to create a second, western passage. Or take for example SL's best terraformed and landscaped continent, Heterocera Atoll: Huh, what atoll? you may ask. You can find it below all the shops, knights castles, pony ranches and stuff if you look hard enough. Typical example for LL mucking up their own ideas and principles. Thx for your fruitless attempt of teaching the educated.

Why are you looking for mature peepels? Just to talk to them? Arrgs. Chatting is so outdated and useless and no fun at all. Can't you find anything moar, like, productive to do? When I entered SL in 07 I never was in the mood to chat much (still ain't) but immediately went into SL sailing after I got my bearings right. I was like \o/ YAY! \o/ and bought my litlte self a boat, joined all available yacht clubs and started mucking about on the water. Sure raced and lost hundreds of races, made some huge tours and cruises on all waterways on the grid and met thousands of avies. The SL sailing community is not only one of the best organised communities in SL but also the involved peeps seem to be older on average. I know lots of peeps fitting the 50-70 age bracket, is that mature enough? WORD! It's what you do, not how you talk, what makes you interesting and makes peepels wanna talk to you! Oh, btw, my uncommunicative nature makes me regularly weeding out my 200+ friendslist. Like swish, swooosh ... baibai \o/ These days I regularly log on with one of my virtually unknown alts when I need my alone time to finish a project without any distraction by some chatters.

I'd say FS for when you have the bestest hardware and very good connection, when you mainly wanna build or do photos or go shopping or dancing, ball humping or do any of the usual lame stuff or have too much time on your hands. Singularity is my personal favourite and probably the best viewer for active avies. The FPS and stability makes it the obvious viewer of choice for sailors, pilots, bikers and drivers. Also for all of us "oldbies" it still has the best V1.2.3 GUI, so our workflow isn't interrupted by perpetually new learning curves. I've tried some other viewers as well but found them either crashy, cumbersome or unworthy. I briefly tested Dolphin and Catznip but I couldn't really get cozy with them. LL viewer? What you talkin' 'bout? I said goodbye to Linden's viewer in June or July 07 and haven't looked back yet.

There are conditions where these things are only going to be obtrusive to pervs and people sneaking into other people's private spaces, and conditions where they can be annoying. Oh what crap! If someone does those things, just ban and AR them. End of story. Sailors, pilots, drivers are not the least interested in your beloved sexbed or sneaking about in your house. We are just passers through. Maybe you're a homebody and cannot understand that ... but just imagine you were sailing for 2 hours straight, trying to finally find a waterway from Sea of Fables on Sansara into the inner lagoon of Heterocera. You have planned that expedition since weeks and you navigate carefully and then finally ... CRASH BOOM BANG your @$$ is TPd home. :smileysurprised: This was everyday problem a couple years back, before LL decided to make more public channels. Are they safe? No, not even today. Too many meanspirited and clueless land owners still have their orbs adjusted so badly, they even block LL owned waterways and roads. So you tp back and try to find a rez spot nearby, so you can continue your trip. But there is nothing. So you decide, now that your ride is phuked up anyways, to spend a few minutes and look up that particular parcel with the offending sec orb or banline. You wanna send the owner one of the OSP's (Open Seas Project) friendly notecards and ask for their co-operation. But then you find an artificial island with some building on it that has absolutely no coastal appearance but is a stable for Amaretto horseys. And then you ask yourself why could that silly beotch not find a (even much cheaper and better suited) parcel somewhere in the center of a mainland continent instead of clogging up precious waterland with her unrelated chit??? And then you hate her. And you hate security systems. And you ask yourself a question the landowner should've asked herself long ago: why is there any need to protect her pretty breedables? It's not as if we could abduct them in any way. Also we are sailors and couldn't care less about landlocked animals. Heck, we wouldn't even know about their existence if that owner wouldn't have pushed our noses right onto them. Pilots have it even worse: they usually travel on higher speed and have absolutely zero chance to see a banline in time to fly around it. As someone mentioned earlier in this thread, using Triple Peccable's Banline Hud isn't a real solution neither, since that thing causes severe lag and often makes the use of vehicles impossible. And please don't think we vehiclists are a bunch of homeless freeloaders. You would be surprised to know how much land we usually own and maintain ourselves. But I don't know any sailor or pilot who ever had the idea to install a sec orb or erect a banline. Because we know it's useless crappola, only angers other residents and makes the grid a less loveable place.

This person lives in Chile but can't buy Lindens at all and therefore is about to lose their land since they can't pay their monthly fee. Sorry but that scenario sounds highly unlikely. Here's why: 1) if that person can't pay how did he/she become a premium member, as is needed to get land in the first place? 2) they can't pay tier in L$ anyway, the Lab will only accept US$.

Indeed, Joy is correct. 1 MB speed is hardly considered broadband these days. I wonder how LL let you log into world in the first place. With 0.8 MB you can't stream YouTube without severe buffering and downloads must take you eternity every time. Ask your ISP for giving you a better connection. Also the local ping of 26 ms sounds like you're 1000 km away from your local exchange. Are you living on a remote island or in the middle of nowhere or are your copper wires that rusty? Max, it's time for you to enter the 21st century! :smileyvery-happy:

Chaos, is that you??? Anyway, my english is too bad so I still don't have the foggiest idea what you're refering to. Thx anyway, will post that pic in my bloggy

Why i have 700 ms here when i have 40 ms on others games? Help me Woah, 700 ms is quite a bad ping. Even from South Africa I have "only" 300-400 ms. From mainland EU you should be around 200 ms. Possible explanation: LL's server colos are in the USA, they don't have any servers locally in Europe like most other games. Still your ping should be much better. Are you maybe on wireless? Please plug directly into your modem/router, that might help a litttle. Conduct some speed tests with speedtest.net (locally and to Dallas/Tx, USA) and see if your numbers there match what your ISP promised you. If they are bad contact your ISP and swear at them! :smileymad:

You deserve this shirt .. ugh no, white is not my colour. Don't you have any nicer shirts to award me with for my good advice?

I consider you one of the very happy very very VERY few Well, I consider you one of the even fewer residents suffering memory leakage. With all the crappola and all the complaints on Sunday, I didn't hear anyone complaining about viewer crashes. Are you by any chance on a LL viewer? That puts you savely into a minority group already. Anyhoo, all this doesn't reflect OP's question. His or her problem is hardware related and can be answered quite simply: update your drivers regularly, maintain your OS daily, physically clean your computer every 6 months, 3 if you're a smoker.

SL has been a mess, tonight; lost inventories galore, clouds aplenty...... That has nothing to do with OP's problem. As fugly as all the clouds were today, we hardly had any crashes or lag. My cloud moved quite easily and fast, even TPd without probs and went sailing. OP's problem sounds like bad/neglected hardware, overly optimistic settings or bad connection.

But had to delete the cache again Nooo! Why do ppl still beliebve in that old myth? Imagine your caché like the spill drain in your bath tub, once your caché is full old stuff will be purged automagically while your computer loads new scenes. There is no need to clear caché, EVER! Only exemption is when your caché is corrupted but that never really happens. At least a unscheduled LL maintenance doesn't corrupt your caché at all.

The one crucial piece of information that you haven't provided is the type of graphics adaptor that you have. THAT! Exactly! It doesn't matter how new OP's computer is if it's the wrong one. The most important part for any machine running SL is the GPU. My 4 y/o selfmade desktop, which was quite cheap and never top of the line, will blow most modern laptops right out of the water. My hubby just bought one of those fashionable ultrabooks and, while it's quite a nifty little machine, in SL it stinks. I'm sure he could even play most games on that thing quite well (if he was into silly stuff like that) but SL is a whole different beast. It's the most demanding platform ever. Tl;dr: SL is all about graphic power!!!