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Why, what were your preconcieved notions?

People discussing borederline cases is good because it will allow the owners of those avatars to make informed decisions going forward if they want to ensure they're percieved the way they intended. I suspect 'borderline,' cases, by their very nature will make up only a small fraction of AR's and even less bans (if anyone is banned at all). If the thread has proven anything though, people can tell when it matters most.

I have never claimed to represent anyone other than avatars other than those ones similiar to my age group. The fact you think I should represent teen avatars when I have no experience of this is somewhat confusing to me. I've used phrases like 'avatars my age,' multiple times. LL have been very clear though. Keira Linden stated the following: You can't get anymore clear cut than that. If you don't look 18 and you're in adult land then you're breaking TOS. Let's not be covert or insinuate at all. I don't think underage looking avatars should be in adult land. Let me say it again. I.do.not.think.children.should.be.in.adult.land. It's one of the reason why I never went to adult land even before the changes came in. No one is talking about borderline cases, we were discussing the existence of nudity beaches despite them now definitely being against TOS. I've stated in multiple posts across multiple threads that I think LL is mainly cocnerned with prepubscent avatars such as myself, and that borderline cases in adult land aren't their primary concern. That's the truth, LL is terrified of child avatars like me appearing in images and there being a huge scandal / news. I don't imagine they care about avatars who could be 16 or 17 but who also might be 18 or 19. I get you're frustrated, there is a lot of that going around. Like I've said, no one hates the bad actors more than genuine kid avatars. I'm sure there were teens who were up to no good as well as avatars my age. Let's not tarnish the vast majority with one ugly brush when most people haven't even done anything wrong.

We have and we have pointed out the technical issues. I think LL want it baked into the skin because you're less likely to change your skin as often as you might use BOM for other things. It's much harder to argue you accidentally changed your skin compared to say putting on the wrong bom etc.

Can you provide examples? Also, it's LL who changed the rules not me. People in the child, adult, can't tell thread posted their photos seeking feedback. If you look at that thread youll notice I haven't reacted to any of the photos. I'm a child avatar and won't be in adult sims, what I think is pretty much irrelevant. Whether I think they should age up or not is irrelevant. It's LL who will be judging not me. I've also stated on numerous occasions that child avatars should follow the rules, and have accepted on more than one occasion that I will have to change my avatar (new skins with modesty layers at the very least). If Tweenster don't update then I'll need to get a new avatar and entire wardrobe of clothes. Everyone must take reponsibility here. Whether it's your intention or not, it sounds to me like you're annoyed borderline edge cases are no longer allowed in adult land.

When have I ever trashed anyone? 😦

You do understand the cocnept of mitigating and aggrivating circumstances don't you? It's what judges use when they consider sentencing guidelines for convictions. At the moment there is no option for child avatars to comply with the new TOS. It would be extremely unreasonable to punish someone for something they have no control over. That's a mitigating circumstance. Those who operate nudity beaches should be allowed some time to become aware of the new rules and adjust, yes, I agree, which is what I said in my original post. However, I would argue that these places know and have known that they cross the line for a long time. They now know, or should know, that what they're doing is very much against TOS, yet they carry on anyway. That is an aggrivating circumstance. Being aware of rules and choosing to ignore them is very different to being aware of the rules and having no option to comply.

How is what I said hypocritical?

The two situations are not at all relatable and no one is crying. Please refrain from such provocative statements. 1) Those who play child avatars are waiting on content becoming available. 2) Those sort of places were always dodgy and there was nothing stopping LL then, or now, closing them down. If LL allow them to stay open it makes a mockery of their statements in regards to keeping child avatars safe. I'm not sure what's controversial about saying nudity beaches where both adult avatars and child avatars are naked and sexualised should be closed down is a thing.

I think the longer LL allows those places to stay open the worse it looks for them. Everyone is going to understand there will be some time after the rule changes before the crack down, but how long should that be? After awhile if no action is taken then those who play child avatars might start to think this is just window dressing rather than anything substantial.

Have LL not closed those places down yet?

I've had quite a few people IM me or message me on the forums which has helped a lot as well as people helping me in world. You know who you are and It's very much appreciated!

I have some of the cutest pyjamas you have ever seen!

That's disturbing, glad I never came across those!

I agree. In my own experience most of the content for Tweenster is pretty decent in that regard although I don't know much about Rebirth, only that it's a hybrid body that can be used for both child and adult avatars. Yeah the word strip denotes something quite sinister indeed. In contrast, there are childcare HUDs aimed at child avatars to have outfit options which can be accsessed by trusted people such as parents. For example, my SL mom has access to my CTS wardrobe and can pick out my outfits like how a mom in RL might pick out their kids clothing at the start of the day. She can also attach things like my favourite teddies or my blankies if I'm feeling sleepy etc.

Oh I agree.

I'm also pretty sure the creator of AVI(L) is no longer even in SL anymore.

LL have said in the child FAQ that it is acceptable for child avatars to wear swimsuits so long as they are rated G, appropirate and do not excentuate genatalia etc. I'm not familiar with clothing for AVI(L) but if the swimsuits break any of those rules then no, I don't think they should be on MP. Like I said though, I've not actually seen them to pass judgement.

The bystander effect is a thing. If you're ever in danger the optimal amount of people to be around is 1, the more people there are the more likely everyone is is to think that someone else will help or that someone else will be more qualified.

I actually think this is true to be fair. I have a full time job and a home etc in RL but I'm not 'all put together.' Some people say I have an extreme eye for detail and that I don't miss things others do, or that I'm a perfectionist. They say these things and intend them as compliments, but really it's rooted in feelings of inadequecy - be told you're not good enough for years and you will believe it, even as an adult, even if logically you know you are good enough. Similarly, the attention to detail comes from being trained to notice things other people wouldn't. When you experience repeated traumas your fight, flight or freeze response never turns off. You're always on red alert.

I love Annie Lennox, that is such a powerful song.

There is a place for adult activities just as there is a place for non adult activities and within what is legal and reasonable, the more varied the experiences SL has to offer the better. Follow TOS, be respectful of others and have fun.

I'm not saying you can't, I'm saying those might have been what led to the unsure reactions. My opinion doesn't matter anyway as I won't be on adult sims to see.

Maybe it's the face? It is very smooth and rounded. Summer dresses tend you make people look more youthful too.

I got myself a new toy! Starries just released a cassette player for kids. It has 14 kids songs, cool animations and effects. The best bit is you can add your own music. Just need to figure out how to do that now!