Malanya

That's true and a great point, it has been a buzzword as you put it for a long time. It seems that the term bullying is following in the same path as it's being used for sympathy and for martyr type people who like to play the victim when bullying is a serious issue especially amongst children and young adults. In many cases they don't have choices adults have to remove themselves from certain situations and they may not have a loud enough voice to overcome fears and threats.

Thank you Dillon I appreciate what you wrote. I also wrote more in my post so that just being quoted didn't actually show the true meaning of what my opinion was to the OP.

See this is what i mean about the replies to "certain" people LOL. But considering the source and I have no respect for certain posters I don't care, I care about the people that are looking for answers and new memebers who in numerous threads when they get rude replies that say they will never come back here again. Sad.

Oh I didn't know they had 23 sims (actually regions I suppose)? That's a lot of sims to pay tier on so maybe I was wrong in my other post. Your partner's quote is right and i do hope you find a resolution for a new home that will makw you even happier than where you were

Why thank you. I don't have a picture with so much substance as nice as yours to re use over and over in different threads. :matte-motes-big-grin-evil:

Agreed, racism comes in all colors, shapes and forms, but many times people are not aware of other individuals and groups that get treated as such. I just found out recently why when I was growing up and learned about racism, slavery, etc in America that the Irish were held as slaves and were treated in ways that people can't imagine. The reason coming from a well known college professor in my homes state was that the Irish were very proud and didn't want what they went through when they first came to Ameirica to be taught in schools or in books, they wanted to move forward from the experience of their ancestors and not look back. I found that to be an interesting fact because I would think that it would be good for people to let others know what they experienced and how they over came it all, then again maybe it was too painful and moving on was the better choice.

It goes to far when it offends someone. It doesn't necessarily have to be the target group, individual or belief. There are many people that are against any type of ridicule and strong negative comments against others. Hopefully the posts from Peggy and Rii explain as they had substance instead of the other replies you recieved. I assume you posted this as a serious question and would appreciate replies that would give you opinions from thought. Though one shouldn't assume I did it anyways

You took things personal when you attacked Amethyst. Maybe if you word things differently people would join your discussion instead of having to defend what you say about them. Stand by what you believe but maybe in a less rude manner would be more helpful to how you receive replies. edit: spelling, apparently I can't spell and type today

You took on the responsibility of "adopting" a little girl with way to create a home for yourselves. Having a child av may be very limiting as many people, and I say this from hearing others and also myself are not comfortable to live our sl lives the wya we do with a child av around and do nost wish to support monetariliy the sl of another or 2 others. I think your best best is to try and do a search for places that may offer a little area to rez boxes or log in and out of, or there may even be some places that may let you use a small area for a limited time until you can earn or buy lindens so you can pay for what you want in sl for yourself and your daughter. I am sorry I don't have any links for you, I have found though that google wiill bring up many useful links in sl if worded specifically what you need. Good Luck.

I know your posts, as many others here are a discussion of opinions and nothing more . I went off on a rant in the other direction and not becuase of your actually post to me, but the activity of other posters and since you replied I put my rant in that post. I am sorry if I led you to believe I directed it at you, I should have worded it differnetly, or posted it to myself in this thread and another thread that was more valid to my opinion.

I didn't get you wrong, I understood what you meant. Of course we all have different opinions and that's supposed to be the way the forum works, would be very boring if there was no diversity in our posts. I respect that you see her asking for people to IM her for chat differnetly than I do, nothing wrong with that. Neither one of us is wrong with how we feel or our opinions someone posts something and people are going to see the post differently, a good thing. It's good to disagree as a lot of times it may help someone see another point of view. Everyone has the right to post their view here. As far as the posts being challenged, People do that here all the time, this forum has a clique and so many times I see a poster who is new made fun of etc and I am not talking about opinions. I wonder why so many OP's never come back to the thread. There is a way to communicate even when people don't agree and rudeness (I am not saying this about you) is not the way at all. People assume also that when someone posts and they don't have a last name of Resident that they are new to sl. Some of us have been a round a long time and no one's business why we don't use our older avatars. This last part was not directed at you and as ususal we don't always come across the way intended in text.

Yes I read his spamming posts a few days ago No one will ever know the truth but the both of them. I posted an observation. The day he posted all over the place it seemed desperate and it was very one sided. The day she posted, admitted to sending Lindens back to him, posting the other avatars name and asking us to IM her her so she could paste their chat sessions gave me a different perspective on "him". I think maybe they both learned a lesson on how easily things can go wrong during a transaction in sl that really isn't looked at by LL. He was refunded though, by LL and partly by Pixie. Nothing is "according to me" as you stated. Like everyone else, I posted my opinion. I find it funny that people that have stronger opinions than mine that have been in the forums longer are never cheallenged like I am unless it's by another older member of the forum. This is why I like SLU over this forum anyday

Couldn't have said it better than that, you always have great advice for people. Being a landlord is hard at times and very demanding, especially when you make customer service your priority. As you said there are many landlords that are honest and very hardworking. I am sure it's hard to trust anyone after an incident like this no matter what the cause.

Staralien wrote: For the OP, I am sorry that happened to you. Regardless of what may have happened, the right thing to do would be to refund your money. Your later post states that the land has been cleared and they seem to no longer be in business. If something happened to my land, the honorable thing to do would be to refund all of my tenants even if it drained every linden from my account. Too bad not everyone in RL or SL has integrity. Staralien it's not always about integrity and they may not have had many lindens in their account. You can lose a whole lot in rl in the blink of an eye even being prepared for rl complications. Some things require urgency and a lot of money off the top of my head a cancer diagnosis. I don't take what I have in life for granted because I know how easily it can be taken and none of being my fault or negligence. You are fortunate to have someone take over for you in case that ever came up and hopefully you will never have that situation evolve. eta; I agree that an sl business is the same as rl one as you put your hard work, money and care in it. It's obvious you are very passionate with your rentals.

I am glad you found out what actually happened and didn't have to keep wondering. I have to say, even with very reputable rental companies, if something happens in rl, and that can be anything an illness alone can take down someone's finances and it's possible they were not financially able to repay any tenants back runused rent owed. It doesn't mean they are bad people, things happen that can spin rl out of control and possibly that was a reason they didn't answer even while inworld. The land owner may not have known what to say or maybe it was personal. We don't walk in other's shoes when it comes to businesses on sl and how it ties into someone's rl. I am very sorry this happened to you because no matter what the reason they had to close, you didn't deserve to lose your money.

Attacking you? LOL oh yes because some didn't say what you wanted to hear or questioned the intent of your post. Puhlease, you were not attacked. If you changed it it would show you did. I am no longer feeding your drama thread so you have a great day too!

PixiWise wrote: Malanya wrote: I saw the posts also. There may be more to this story because I looked at PixiWises's profile and the av was 5 days old but looked like a pretty well made up avatar in the profile for being new. I have no idea if this av is new or a second account and even though the other person spammed the forums it may have been done out of some desperation to get the problem fixed even though it doesn't help. I think it's possible it was fraud and that's why LL refunded the money. That's the only scenerio that makes sense to me. I read the few last 5 comments about me, the world become a worst place with every day... so spiteful. I dont know how to answer, now i have to prove my words, - am i escort - yes, i am - am i 5 days yes i am /of course i have other avi's/ is there any bad about that? -... and the most important i still dont have answer from the LL... If someone want i can paste IM with the and his ALT avi too, i post the name of his avi , who give me the money and also spoke some time too. dj milen (milen.monaron) - from where he give the money You don't have to prove anything to us, but since you posted HERE on a public forum we can surly post our comments. Who cares is this is a second av, my point was it made more sense to me for my thoughts with being 5 days old, profile not showing any escort anything and a 5 day old av usually doesn't get $25,000L for escorting (well haven't known seasoned ones to) being 5 days old. As others have stated LL does not get in resident disputes such as this unless they have seen something, things only LL can see and prove. BTW no one can IM you for you to post chat, that is clearly a violation to do in an IM. I am sure you must realize you can alter the text in an IM too so whatever you show is no guarantee of it being the actual text of the IM. That makes me think even more that the other side of the story, even if not complete shows some fraudulant activity and who knows it could have been about anything for all we know. We are not the Lab. Read into peoples posts however you wish. Don't know what world you live in but a forum post about my av or things done on sl does not compare to the real world I live in happily everyday even if flawed. eta: it can still be a form of fraud esp since this another account the OP holds and may not be tied to her main. OP also refunded $5000L to the other party, because ......? If I was HONESTLY owed owed $25,000L and in no way was I violating anything I would not refund any money. Seriously as others have said, LL does not usually get in the middle of disputes between residents and only LL has access to the actual chat logs. Asking others to get his alt's info and YOU naming an avi in the forum = all of this shows he may be right, you seem to be a rule breaker.

Drama.. yes. I checked the OP's profile and nothing was changed and I recal she wanted to remove picks and redo some things but didn't know how (questionable if you can put them in I would think you can take them out) All the details of friends with benefits and that being the topic, LM's I doubt was as she said what she wanted out of this thread. I don't think threads like this are as interesting as how to improve market place packaging as someone pointed out Drama is not entertaining.

Hmm...

I saw the posts also. There may be more to this story because I looked at PixiWises's profile and the av was 5 days old but looked like a pretty well made up avatar in the profile for being new. I have no idea if this av is new or a second account and even though the other person spammed the forums it may have been done out of some desperation to get the problem fixed even though it doesn't help. I think it's possible it was fraud and that's why LL refunded the money. That's the only scenerio that makes sense to me.

You don't have to apologize for anything, it's your right to post. I do think there are situations where people see drama that isn't there, but if you wanted LM's as you say, why all the details of sex, pervs, ugly avs, friends leaving because no more fun time and whatever else you mentioned in your OP? The extra TMI makes it drama to some of us. Just simply saying you were looking for new places to hang out that was not related to sex because you are interested in exploring different places in sl that would be interesting to you would have been a thread about LM's and I am sure you would have received those responses. I don't believe you offended anyone, you just got feedback on the type of thread you made.

Sephina Frostbite wrote: So I have decided to not have "fun time" on sl. (Or Very Limited) Well it seems like because of this my friends list has minimized and people I would have thought were my friends are dropping like flies. I even was attacked because of my decision. I was told I should make my avi ugly then or shouldn't dress sexy. Its not like I dress like a hussy. So now I am looking for places with like minded individuals because apparently I befriended all the close minded pervs. lol Edit: Spelling, because I havent had my cup of coffee yet. No one should be judged for dressing a certain way. Dressing in sexy clothes is not an invitation of any kind, but dressing in these clothes and the verbiage of your profile combined with groups and your feed speak differently than you may think. Your feed actually shows me that you are in need of attention and it doesn't seem to be "flirty". However, that's your business but you did post your business here and I agree with other posters that you seek drama. I don't see your need to post something this personal unless you wanted attention for a few different things. Seems like High School to me. Your original post that I quoted above wraps it up: Look at me, Very limited fun time, ugly avi, to name a few. If it's in your heart to choose how you lve your sl, then maybe you should choose your words better even in this post. Good luck to your new and hopefully fufilling sl

oh ok. I thought that even if you didn't "click" on the gaming object (lack of a better word to describe) you were still put in a database where people were checking against IP's or something like that. I know it isn't exactly like Redzone, but same theory and violated some privacy. I don't remember all the details either, I have seen them go away after someone AR'd the Object eta: I always have media off unless I am on my own sim and would still get messages when I was active in that group. I don't allow any streams and voice I deleted a long time ago since it works off and on and use something else to talk while in sl.

Isn't there something similar to Redzone and is still being sold on MP? I recall a thread of the creator sending Note cards that threatened members of a certain group? I can't name it here, but this particular object seen in many clubs I thought was against TOS just for being the type of "game" it was.

Yes I know that. You can post anything you want outside of SL. I think most viewers allow you the option to save chat, IM and local chat. Usually with chat logging people use it against someone else inside of SL, use it to shame someone or bf/gf partner issues, that's what I was referring to. I was just pointing out to the OP that you can't log and share as all the "disclaimers" I have seen in profiles seem to be the same text copied from one to another and it doesn't mention anything about using it outside of SL. Still a good point to give to the OP that it can be shared outside of SL.