JeanneAnne

well .. i dont intend to copy anything .. i just think all the implications are interesting .. for instance .. what if someone said they 1st made shoes so everyone else who makes shoes afterwards are infringing on their IP ?? thatd be ridiculous .. but what if they said someone elses shoes are so much like theirs that its a violation & the other person says thats just a coincidence .. or that they may be similiar but they arent identical? it all comes down to a matter of opinion .. so who decides? a judge & jury ?? are our courts goin2 be all tied up deciding whether someone violated someone elses IP over pixel shoes ?!?! Jeanne

FairuzaB wrote: Unless you give the baby to them, they can't hold him/her. thank you FairuzaB .. thats what i was afraid of ... Jeanne

Dilbert Dilweg wrote: Here is a more clear Policy on bots http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Bot Read below where it says Forbiden use Forbidden usage According to Linden Lab Terms of Service usage of scripted agents is forbidden for: increasing the parcel traffic by camping ("gaming" traffic); stealing an in-world content; violate the copyright (see CopyBot for details) performing any other activity prohibited by TOS. See Linden Lab Official:Inworld policy on bots for more details. And more clearly on the copybot page it states very clearly Using CopyBot or any other software to make copies of avatars, objects, or textures that you did not create, beyond what the official Second Life viewer allows, is a breach of the Second Life Terms of Service and can result in being banned. The answer you are looking for are tied to both of those pages LL viewer lets you take pics .. so what if you just took a foto of something then used fotoshop or something to make something just like it .. w/out actually having 'copied' it .. or using CopyBot software? what if you copy something then alter it just a ltl bit .. or quite a bit? what if you thinkuv something on your own that someone else has already thotuv 1st? Jeanne

Rhys Goode wrote: I know several designers who include an anti copying message with each and every item they sell, not all that unusual, especially for people who have been around long enough to get burned. Ah! this must be the case then .. id just never seen it before Thanks! Jeanne

Innula Zenovka wrote: Like I said, I would have thought the only person who could explain what the note was for would be the person who put it there -- maybe start by looking at who created it and asking them? Generally, I don't think there's a problem with being the innocent recipient of unauthorised copies. It's only if you're distributing them, the creator asks you to stop, and you continue distributing them regardless that it becomes an issue, at least in my observation. ok .. thanks Innula .. i dont want to violate the ToS .. either intentionally or unintentionally .. but if i receive something thats been copied inappropriately w/out even knowing it .. i dont want to get in trouble for that .. i dont think that warning box identifies who sent it but i dont exactly remember what all it said .. it just made me wonder if somehow someone knows those silks are copies & they stuck that warning in with them .. but it could just be that the creator includes that message w/ everything she sells .. just as a general warning about copybotting .. i dunno Jeanne

Perrie Juran wrote: It was the Debug setting I was referring to, not the height offset in the slider. But that thread did jog my memory, it was the Z Modifier in preferences that I was thinking about, not a Debug setting. well .. i dont know about the Debug setting .. but i do know that when my feet are sinking in i fix it w/ that "Height Offset" slider Jeanne

Innula Zenovka wrote: I'd have thought the person best placed to answer your question "is it implying that the silks i received are copies? is it just a general warning sent to everyone? how would i know if theyre copies or not?" would be the person who sent the notecard, or who caused the box to send it, or whatever they did. i dont even know who or what caused the box to pop up .. the silks were boxed .. i rezzed the box on the ground opened it & copied it to inv .. & the notecard and that warning box just popped up .. this didnt happen w/ the other boxed set of silks .. they were gifts from my sister & i know she wouldnt intentionally do anything wrong .. but i guess my question is: what if copybotted things are being innocently passed along by ppl who dont even know theyre copies? can someone get in trouble for sharing or accepting something thats been copied unknowingly? why should it be my responsibility to acertain if something i get is a copy or not? why should i even care ?? Jeanne

Kennylex Luckless wrote: I do not like copybotting and did think it was against the TOS or rules, but after seeing copies of famous old builds several old folks has told me that copybotting not is against any rule as long as you not sell, but I think it sounds odd, so I now need help with: 1: Get pointed to where in LL TOS or Rules I can read about copying other creators work. 2: Get a shorter simpler translation of rules like, "Copybotting is not okay", "Copying okay as long as you not sell copy". 3: Get advise for what normal users shall do if they see suspected copies or copybotters. i received 2 sets of belly dancing silks .. when i opened one set a notecard popped up & so did a ltl window saying that copybotting is bad & dont do it .. blah blah .. the silks were gifts .. the box didnt say that the silks i received were unauthorized copies .. but i wonder why it popped up .. is it implying that the silks i received are copies? is it just a general warning sent to everyone? how would i know if theyre copies or not? i dont like being spammed w/ stuff like that Jeanne Edit: also .. why is it wrong to copy something you paid for? whats wrong with giving stuff you bought away?

Perrie Juran wrote: Solaria Goldshark wrote: Perrie Juran wrote: . Dang, can't remember what it is called now. Tease! :smileyhappy: Interesting problem. I have a house where my feet sink into the floor on my sim...my feet don't sink into the floor at the store demo for the same house. It's been bugging me for weeks. Put down an ivisiprim over the floor...problem solved....I guess. Here is the function in Firestorms Quick Preferences. I may have been wrong about the Debug setting, it's been so long since I messed with this. See this discussion: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/LSL-Scripting/My-feet-go-inside-the-ground-Is-there-a-script-to-fix-this/td-p/987063 see where it says "Height Offset" ?? if your feet are sinking in or youre walking on air .. play w/ that slider til youre juuuust rite .. but then you may hav2 do it again when you go somewhere else Jeanne

does anyone know how someone else besides the mom & dad can hold a Zooby baby? i have a friend who wants to hold my Jaques & i added him to Jaques friend list but when he opens the menu theres no 'hold' option like there is for me & his dad ... is it even possible for anyone else besides the parents to hold a Zooby baby? thanks .. Jeanne

Dilbert Dilweg wrote: I don't see how anyone makes money on renting land $L1 per prim? Sim only has 15,000 prims and the only equates to roughly $55 USD a week. 4 weeks is barely over 200 USD How do they pay tier? Must be grandfathered sims. But it seems that renting out land, the profit margin is pretty low. I guess mainland renting is easier and a bit more profitable than renting with private regions? I have always been curious how the land market worked with rentals and price standards looks to me like Jessica Chung makes $5 US per month per sim .. renting them out by the quarter sim not sure how many sims she 'owns' but must be quite a few .. for it to be worth the bother Jeanne

Lynda Baran wrote: Oooh yeah, Ass-ange is a reeeeal hero. That why the CIA is after him. lol Don't let the black helicopter distract you while the hitters from SEAL Team 6 sneak in to the Ecuadorian Embassy and takes him out. Oh wait, is he on Uncle Barry's Kill List? Bradley Manning is a dolt. He stole documents and passed them on and for what. So Ass-ange can overstate his own importance and claim to be the hero of the oppressed. I thought that was Stalin, Mao or maybe Castro. Let's see if he thinks it was such a hot idea when he's found guilty of espionage under the UCMJ and they ship him off to Leavenworth to be hanged. I don't much care about revealing State Department garbage, they are a bunch of clowns anyway. But for revealing classified military information I hope they stretch his neck. Just too bad they can't make it a double header with Ass-ange in the number two spot. BTW, I came across a list of members of Anonymous recently. I have it list on E-Bay for sale to the highest bidder. I'll make a deal if you also what my lists of ELFand ALF members. i hope that the "classified" stuff gets imperalist operatives killed Lynda .. they have no business interferring in the affairs of soveriegn nations .. if the dicks want to die for their corporate overlords then more power to em .. openness freedom self-determination .. are coming to this planet .. & those of you who would stand in the way w/ your sheepbrained defense of nationalism & secrecy & corporatism .. can just shut up die or get outuv the way .. we want nothing to do w/ your fetishistic masochism Jeanne

GREAT tune Knowl .. :catwink: Jeanne

Canoro Philipp wrote: we dont know for sure if he is, of course, taking into account what sweden defines as "rape". one curious event that happened at the time that he was accused of it, is that it happened just after wikileaks released the U.S. diplomatic cables, there is a high probability that it is trap by the CIA. i do care about Julian Assange, because he has pointed out many wrong doings in the world, and thanks to that, many have been corrected. he didnt try to undermine all countries of the U.N., do you have any proof of that? careful .. cuz if you dont conform to the OPs preconceived opinions youll get trolled & ridiculed Jeanne

Storm Clarence wrote: Lol Jeanne. I know the url to wikileaks. I was asking you since you took such a firm stance and want to declare him a hero. I didn't think you had an answer. so you didnt want an answer? you were just trolling me ?? your answers are all there .. read it for yourself Jeanne

http://wikileaks.org/

Storm Clarence wrote: JeanneAnne wrote: yeah i care about him .. he has done a great service making public the underhanded sneaky secret things the government hides from us .. he has shined a spotlite on2 the murky sleazy things that oppressive government does Jeanne, can you be more specific? To what murky sleazy things has he exposed that you are referring? thousands of things .. that were "classified" .. embarrassing state dept. & military things .. things that reveal the underhanded shenanigans that government officials & bureaucrats engage in under the cover of secrecy Jeanne

Storm Clarence wrote: Is he a rapist? Does anyone really care about this dude? Should he have sough the sympathies of the U.N. -- the same countries he once tried to undermine? i wasnt there so dont really know .. but i dont think hes a rapist .. i think he may have gotten a ltl carried away w/ those women when they were all high & drunk .. may have taken liberties he shouldnt have .. or .. he was set up .. cia may have paid those women to accuse him yeah i care about him .. he has done a great service making public the underhanded sneaky secret things the government hides from us .. he has shined a spotlite on2 the murky sleazy things that oppressive government does he hasn't tried to "undermine" anything but secret evil .. the UN should reward him Jeanne

Kiri Cisse wrote: I've been hunting up and down the grid for years now, I would think - looking for the perfect skin (Don't we all?). Have never really solicited any help, however. What I am looking for is less makeup and smaller breasts, more realistic. Blush and eye shadow just aren't my thing. Neither are large circular breasts. I'm a B cup in RL and prefer to remain so in SL, which is a task unto itself. Shape only goes so far with out the added beauty of a nicely designed skin. I currently have mostly LAQ skins but their breasts just don't work out for me. DrLife has nice skins but the eyeshadow is just a tad too high, though their breasts are much nicer. Am I picky or what? Anyways, if you could give me some suggestions either here or in world, I would be very thankful and diligent in trying them out. Kiri Dasmijn i think i got the skin i normally wear @ Freebie Dungeon when it was only a couple days old in SL maybe it isnt 'perfect' but i like the tone & iv won plenty of L$ in contests like 'best in bathing suit' or 'best topless' or 'best female body' wearing it i dont know what the skin has to do w/ breast size .. breast size is adjustable w/ the sliders .. iv made my breasts so small i looked like a 12 yr old .. & had them pretty big w/ lotsuv gravity when i was pregnant & nursing .. the skin just conformed to them i also dont know what the skin has to do w/ your makeup .. i put on eye shadow & freckles & blush & lip gloss separately .. over the skin iv seen skins that cost a lot but i challenge any1 w/ an expensive skin to show that their avatar is more attractive than mine cuzuv the expensive skin they wear .. i think that ppl just like to throw L$ away on stuff they could have for free Jeanne

so when children play in their open ended way it isnt a game because there is no competition & no goal ?? i think that every1 who tries to insist that games must have rules goals competition winners & losers etc etc .. have their heads locked in2 the very model of competitive greed based striving enterprise they were socialized w/ by the propaganda machines of greedy dog eat dog capitalism .. i think their efforts worked on these ppl games are about having fun .. they need not be competitive .. the most fun games are cooperative .. every1 'wins' the most fun games .. games w/ winners & losers promote bullying .. they promote the gloating of the 'winner' over the humiliated 'loser' .. theyre sick sadomasochistic exercises in the dom/sub mindset .. they restrict rather than liberate theres plenty of sociopathic & sadomasochistic activity in SL .. its true .. but theres also plenty of good clean fun in which every1 has fun & every1 wins .. insisting that only a restricted subset of gaming activity is 'truly' or 'really' a game is silly SL is an open ended game .. it can have goals & competition but it need not have .. SL can be fun or it can be taken so seriously that it ends up not being fun .. only then would i say that fails to qualify as a game Jeanne

Hermione Lefevre wrote: Has anyone bought nice and easy to fit feet? I tried a pair and they looked terrible, probably just couldnt do it right..so i need noob proof feet if possible Thanks :-) i have a really nice pair of mesh bare feet id tell you who made them cept im @ work & cant check inv it wasnt real easy using the hud to match the skin tone .. but i finally managed to do it so that the ankle line doesnt show changing nail polish is much easier they come with tattoos .. or not .. as you prefer i like these feet so much that i rarely wear shoes anymore Jeanne

i dont know anything about your vehicles Ann .. for all i know they are wonderful but i hav2 ask .. whats the point of a vehicle in a world where you can FLY ?!?! Jeanne

Ylalian wrote: Sent you NC inworld hon) i read your NC Ylalian .. i think you have a wonderful idea & i would love to participate .. it would be fun !! but im not sure i can really help you .. for a variety of reasons ... i stream with SAM software .. via Icecast .. to my brother's computer that acts as relay server for my stream .. my brother lives ~160 km away .. if i listen to my stream back via VLC or WinAmp .. thers a second or 2 delay .. which is why i mute SAM himself to listen .. i want to hear my stream as others hear it .. you live in Russia don't you? if you sang to the music i was streaming .. the delay would make voice & music outuv synch .. i dont know how we could get around this problem unless you recorded my music .. sang to it & recorded that .. then FTPed it back to me to rebroadcast .. this would be a lotuv trubble .. & would only be possible if i can figure out how to get SAM to delete the lyrics from the original songs .. the latest version of SAM does have a karioke function .. but i dont think i have the latest version & it costs $299 .. & there are a lot of things about SAM i dont know how to do yet .. & that would be one of them! another thing is that my stream doesnt have very many listeners .. often there will be as few as 3 .. & one of them is me! im not sure why my stream hasnt caught on .. i play the worlds BEST music after all .. & i tell all my FB & SL friends about my stream .. i even tell certain RL ppl about it .. yet it seems that few tune in my sisters .. who are far more experienced DJs than i am .. (actually i dont yet consider myself a real DJ since i mostly just stream playlists on shuffle or random) .. tell me that they usually only have a handful of listeners themselves .. unless they are doing a special program theyve announced to all their friends .. so even if we could cooperate & pull off what you suggest .. im not sure how many ppl would even listen so ..... im open to trying this but i think the technical difficulties may be too much .. you could get your own stream tho! SAM was given to me .. id give it to you if i knew how .. you might find someone to give you SAM or you could buy it ($299) .. im lucky cuz my brother pays for commercial bandwidth & he hosts my stream for free .. youd hav2 find someone to host your stream or you could rent server space for this purpose .. i couldnt afford to stream if SAM wasnt given to me for free & i didnt have a brother to host my stream .. if you had your own stream & had the karioke versions of the songs you like .. you could stream your own creations to the world !! if you marketed your stream you might become popular !! good luck to you Ylalian Jeanne