JeanneAnne

Qwalyphi Korpov wrote: Looking back now it could have been part of a general trend where the Lindens found things they could stop doing. the less they do the less staff they hav2 pay to do it .. the lower their payroll the more $$$ the bigshots rake in Jeanne

Curious Hazelnut wrote: I feel the need to pontificate on the direction that Linden Lab is taking Second Life. Okay, actually on where I want them to take it. As a long time resident I've watched the Lab go through cycles of new features and improving stability many times. I don't see any other way to keep something as grand as Second Life going forward and lasting as long as it has without such cycles. So, here is what I would like to see as the next cycle for second life. A long time ago, I got the opportunity to play with (what was then) a new 3D display that you wore like a helmet. This 3D vision display had 2 screens, one for each eye, and gave a real 3D emersive feel to the one playing with it. It was really amazing, I moved my head and the view shifted with it. These toys have come a long way and now look more like funny glasses than helmets. Both Vusix and Sony have (or will have) products available. Imagine if Second Life supported such things? Would you put on a headset and wander around Second Life in first person without the real world background? I sure would. Something like this takes emersion to the next level. This goes even beyond what 3DTV can do since the headset takes the room you are in away. That's not all I want. Look at how the Nintendo Wii changed interaction with video games? Suddenly your body becomes the controller, swing the wiimote and the avatar's arm move. Then Microsoft took this a step further with the Kinect and your body really is the controller. Play with one if you haven't, the experience really changes things. Think about it? Combined a fully emmersive 3D headset with a Wiimote and suddenly the real world just fades away. When you the wiimote around, your avatar's hand moves. The buttons and controls on the wiimote become the controls for movement in SL, the trigger for "touch". It's almost perfect and all the hardware exists. All Linden Lab needs to do is build real support into the viewer. It's pretty clear that Linden Lab is trying to find ways to bring more people into SL. This would almost certainly do it. How many games are there that truly support that level of immersion? The only down side is it means the viewer would need a 3rd mode of operation: basic, advanced, and real 3D. Where do you hope Linden Lab takes Second Life? my understanding is that something like what you describe was Philip Rosedales original intention for SL .. a helmit & gloves & such for the entire virtual reality experience .. but it didnt work out imagine tho .. going into a sensory isolation chamber where you float in really dense salty water exactly @ the isothermal temp in total darkness in the soundproof chamber .. & you wear glasses w/ miniature screens & earfones & a body suit w/ appliances attached to your genitals for slex .. & theres even perfumes & odors that can be released in there so that when you see flowers or a skunk or something you smell it too .. & if you get shot or stabbed in combat you feel pain where youre wounded .. & theres a fan so that when you fly you feel the wind .. why not? i bet thers tech available like this .. what i think is that the grid needs to be completely redesigned so that there are no "sims" .. or rather one big sim .. the entire grid is the same big sim .. so that sailboats could go everywhere & not crash @ sim crossings .. & i think the "prim" needs to be eliminated .. its old tech .. i saw a video about how the wave of the future is millions of microscopic prim-like thingies .. & it makes the grafix soooo much better .. i didnt understand exactly how it works but LL could develop something like this .. but i dont think theres goin2 be great improvement until computers & the internet go fotonic rather than electronic .. & until the hardware engineers figure out how to dissipate heat better .. mebbe w/ radiators or something .. or w/ liquid N2 maybe id also like to see evry1 pay a user fee & then eliminate private property & the L$ .. the toy sl economy is what i like least about the game Jeanne

Perrie Juran wrote: Getting stalked, griefed, harrassed, etc, etc, is never pleasant for any one. It absolutely 110 percent sucks for any one who it happens too. I will never say otherwise. But what gets me is this, as I referenced above, it's the inordinate way people get bent out of shape about it when they say OMG, I met them on SL or on Facebook or whatever, these things ain't safe, stay away from them, be afraid, be very very afraid. It's how they love to sensationalize that it happenned on the Interent. i agree w/ you Perrie .. iv been threatened be4 ~not in sl but online~ but i never really got too scared by it .. cuz i didnt really figure any1 was goin2 bother to actually travel to my physical location to harm me .. even if they did figure out where i am which i doubted they could LoL once this Irish guy told me he was goin2 have his homies in a NYC IRA cell come kill me .. but the doof was drunk .. i was actually agreeing w/ him but he took what i was saying wrong & said he was goin2 have the IRA get me :catlol: stuff like that is really more stupid & funny than scary me & this woman i knew from online really did bust a pedofile be4 tho .. i may have told this already .. dont remember .. but he sent us both pics of him or someone smearing **bleep** on what looked like a naked 10 or 11 yr old girl .. we contacted the FBI & he disappeared off the internet .. creeps like that deserve to be stalked or reported & busted .. but ordinary ppl just pissing someone off online i dont think has a whole lot to be scared of Jeanne

Perrie Juran wrote: JeanneAnne wrote: it depends Perrie .. when i was in college the dorm had a static IP that could pinpoint not only the dorm a person was in but even the floor they were on .. i hope theyve changed that by now now if you rip my IP you get an isp that provides service over several states Jeanne But where was the information stored that said which IP was connected to which room and what did it take to access that information? Even if the information was publicly posted, it still required another step for someone to make the association. Depending on your provider, how close I can nail down your general location can vary. It's getting to the specific exact location that will always require additional information. I hope in that situation that the information wasn't publicly available. Really, I don't understand what your comment is referring too other than to say some situations make it easier than others. yeah .. you could get the IP & put it in2 ISP Tracer & it would tell which floor of the dorm the person was on .. wouldnt identify the room & there were a lotuv women on each floor but still .. if someone was stalking you that was pretty scary .. & yeah .. my pt. is that some situations make it much easier for someone to find you from your IP than others Jeanne

it depends Perrie .. when i was in college the dorm had a static IP that could pinpoint not only the dorm a person was in but even the floor they were on .. i hope theyve changed that by now now if you rip my IP you get an isp that provides service over several states Jeanne

>>He says he doesn't see anything to kill.<< LoL .. sounds like my brothers .. maybe he coulduv killed the naked man who spoke French .. so very sorry about your friend who passed away .. Jeanne

Medhue Simoni wrote: JeanneAnne wrote: Darrius Gothly wrote: ...that will ultimately advance all of the human race to the top of the survival peak. theres 7.2 billion ppl on a biosphere that could sustainably support ~.2 billion sans fossil fuel inputs .. & you want to >>..advance all of the human race to the top of the survival peak<< ?!?! you know what happens to populations that exceed the carrying capacity of their environment dont you ?? they collapse .. & the more they exceed K the harder they collapse & the more they diminish K for any survivors Jeanne There is no doubt that many collapses are coming. The reasons have nothing at all to do with peak oil or other such mainstream media BS. Governments and oppression are the reasons. If you actually do real research, you will quickly find out that all of the waste and abusive of resources is directly caused by government intervention. This is not a political ideology or opinion, it's a fact. Even the notion of overpopulation is total BS that the media likes to scare people with, despite every major economic country declining in population massively. If the people of the world did not have governments using their various tools to control everything, we'd have innovation on a unprecidented scale. Heck, just eliminating all taxation of income would create such a boom that gas would instantly become a none issue in everyone's lives. Plus, we'd have peace around the world with little to no actual conflicts, as the evil people of the world would no longer have the resources to wage war. All government policies are about controlling the markets and their people. Not 1 policy has anything at all to do with helping people, only enslaving them. From patents, to gas taxes, it is all about control and oppression. SL alone should show the world that totally free markets can save humanity. Will there be theft, or crime? Of course, but actually less than we have now, and no 1 entity would be able to act without consequences. In a totally free market, everything is voluntary and without coersion. Government is, by it's very definition, force, as none of their policies can be enforced without the threat of violence. When the world wakes up from this nightmare, they will hopefully see that we have no use for national governments anymore. You should seriously read up on eugenics, because you are spouting their ideology, which are embedded in every part of our current paradyme. Most of what you will learn in school, comes directly from eugenic, just masked with fake science. It's all propaganda with no actual scientific evidence. When you research things, if you even do, you don't take highly paid government employees word for it. What you should do is actually analyze the studies and research that they cite. Once you do that, and understand a little about the scientific method, you will see quite clearly that it is all total and complete BS. what would i ever do w/out a GUY to 'splain stuff to ltl ole me ?!? Jeanne

i showed SL to my husband .. he showed no interest @ all .. thot it was ridiculous .. to him computers are something to use for programming lathes or milling machines to cut metal .. not for making cartoon characters dance & blast one another i helped my mom get an account & put an avatar together .. we went dancing in a blues club .. she seemed to like choosing clothes & hair & shoes for her avatar .. but she wanted me to control her .. make her walk & dance & fly .. i tried to get her to take over & she did try it but was clumbsy & wanted me to do it while she watched .. once i left she never logged back in .. when i asked her why she said that she was "too busy" for SL .. i think that she just didnt care to bother to master it i told both my brothers about SL .. actually they both already knew about SL but didnt have accounts & never played it .. the older & more computer savvy of the 2 got an account & logged in2 SL .. but mostly just in order to figure out how to do it on his linux machine so he could show me .. he expressed an interest in open sim & said he might look in2 that cept he has 2 young children & says hes too busy for gaming these days .. both brothers play WoW or have played it .. & similar shoot em ups .. both said that SL is "for girls" & is all about virtual sex .. they kinda snickered about me playing it the woman i share rent on the house with got an account & downloaded a viewer on her laptop .. she made a male avatar .. shes an actress & maybe thot it would be fun to play a male role .. but her laptop simply wouldnt run SL worth a darn .. so she lost interest .. maybe she occasionally logs in w/ my computer while im not around .. i dunno .. but if she logs in w/ my account ill kill her !! my aunt .. moms younger sister .. plays LotR .. i showed her SL but as far as i know she never got an account .. my 14 yr old cousin spent a couple weeks w/ me this past summer & she saw me playing SL .. she didnt express much interest .. kinda to my relief .. i was afraid that she would want to lie about her age & get an account .. maybe she has back home but i doubt it .. i prolly woulduv heard about it if she did SOOooo ... im batting 0 when it comes to introducing ppl i know to SL & having them stick w/ it ... how about you ??? Jeanne

>>The calculation of this planet supporting perhaps 2 billion while it now reasonably sustains 3 times that many...<< read more carefully .. i didnt say that K was 2 billion .. i said that K is 0.2 billion or 200 million .. this is how many ppl Jörð's biosphere could support sustainably & indefinitely ~give or take a few 10s of millions~ w/out long term degradation of K >>..we've become smarter about how we use the resources.<< are you kiddin me ?!?! we are anything besides "smart" about how we use resources .. we waste them profligately .. & we are poisoning the atmosphere & surface ocean w/ oxidized carbon in the process >>You may be pessimistic about our future Jeanne, but I remain optimistic.<< optimism & pessimism are the 2 poles of a continuum .. if you can tell me which pole is which i will regard you as a wise person >>..consigning the entire race to a future of imminent and unavoidable destruction is to ignore the evidence of our accomplishments to date.<< our accomplishments to date ?!?! superstitious religiosity including human & other animal sacrifice? slavery? the genocide of the Native Americans & Australian Aboriginals? the nuclear bombardmant of Japan? destruction of entire ecosystems & biomes? precipitation of the 6th great mass extinction episode of the Phanerozoic ?!?! >>The mere fact that I still draw breath...<< is cuz your parents had sex & nothing has killed you yet .. but something will .. & then this glorious future in store for MANkind you so hubristically crow about will be lost to you .. youll be dead & never know that human population has collapsed towards extinction as the anthropogenically ravished biosphere & biodiversity slowly begins to recover Jeanne

Darrius Gothly wrote: ...that will ultimately advance all of the human race to the top of the survival peak. theres 7.2 billion ppl on a biosphere that could sustainably support ~.2 billion sans fossil fuel inputs .. & you want to >>..advance all of the human race to the top of the survival peak<< ?!?! you know what happens to populations that exceed the carrying capacity of their environment dont you ?? they collapse .. & the more they exceed K the harder they collapse & the more they diminish K for any survivors Jeanne

Trix Braveheart wrote: JeanneAnne Second Life is many things to many people. It is the reason it is so hard to define just what it is. I love that so many get to have free fun, lots of what I do earns me nothing and costs nothing. But, SL offers so many other opportunites as well, I and many others get incredible satisfaction out of creating. There are many creative people (not me so much, blush) who use this and even the commerce as an outlet for those energies. I've tilted at this Linden windmill for about as long as I care to. /me puts down her torch and pitchfork and turns her back on Governor Lindens estate. yeah Trix .. i admire the creativity ppl exhibit in sl .. & honor it .. its just the economic aspect of buying & selling code for virtual objects that rubs me the wrong way .. i love sl very much but dont have a great deal of respect for LL management .. to put it mildly .. i dont trust them & dont want to contribute to their bottom line if i dont hav2 .. but to each his or her own! best wishes Jeanne

Czari Zenovka wrote: jwenting wrote: There was an economy. The only way for there not to be one is for nobody to make, share, sell, or buy anything whatsoever. As I know I did all those things almost (except selling stuff), there must have been an economy. There just wasn't a quarterly *report* of the economy (like we used to get). so how come we dont get them anymore? what are they hiding? & how do you know that the reports they use2 provide were accurate? Jeanne

Rival Destiny wrote: Well, many are net savy & can easily mask their IP. It's been my experience that many people divulge bits n pieces of their rl via chats etc while online. It's not too difficult in many cases to find out where someone lives just from seeing what they are talking about online. I think what goes on in sl is probably not much different than the internet in general and other sites such as topical forums, game sites, etc. I think the onus is on us as users of the internet to also protect ourselves. I've seen many instances where people logon to the net, not just sl, & expect all sorts without reading the fine print. Like anything in life, you need to know where you are going and what you are doing. With regards to sl, I treat it as I do any other place online & know that anything I say - well, may be used against me in a court of the universe - so to speak. In otherwords, if you don't want it to get out there, don't say it, post it, etc. Be aware. yep RD .. i agree with you .. be careful if you dont want ppl knowing who you are in rl or knowing where you live .. if you dont much care then dont worry about it .. good post! Jeanne

this is 1uv the reasons why it makes no sense to become involved with sl's toy economy .. 1 day it says you have L$ in your account & next day its gone .. youre just SOL .. so why not just play for free have fun & not worrya bout L$ ?? that way you never get ripped off Jeanne

Maeve Balfour wrote: Hi. I'm not sure if this is the appropriate forum to place this, but this is a question I want to raise. I'm hoping merchants here might be able to offer advice. As a mesh creator (for private usage only) and as someone who is generally creative, I enjoy browsing through the latest mesh listings on the Marketplace to see what others are doing, and occasionally buying. Also, having personally been in mesh creation for years, I fully know what is and isn't possible within SL itself. This said, I can spot a faked non-SL 3D render a mile off - these are almost always a scammer attempting to rip off unknowing customers with an empty box, and running way with their money (I have seen the scathing reviews many times in the past, so it gives a good indication). Getting to my point - Over the past week, I have spotted what I am pretty sure is the same scammer ripping off customers over and over again with an empty box, always opening a new store (often within a day) of his/her prior one being closed down. Usually with the same or similar fake products, almost always using promo images lifted directly from turbosquid.com (I have been a member there for years, so I often recognise these stolen renders). As soon as an item gets a bad review, the scammer pulls it and relists it. When the store is shut down, the scammer just makes a new one with a new account (each account is always only a few days old). My gut feeling tells me this is the same individual - the stolen renders used for the fake promo images are usually from the same small group of turbosquid.com creators. Is there any way I can report this directly to LL? I'm not sure if it's appropriate to flag items as being relisted when it's a totally different store - but I am pretty certain this is a serial scammer operating. I have been alerting the relevant creators on turbosquid.com of their renders being lifted, but there's not much else I can do that I am aware of. My main concern is that in the meantime, unsuspecting customers are being ripped off over and over again (often to the tune of around L$10,000 per time), getting a bad experience and probably making them distrustful to the genuine merchants. Should I do anything? Or should I just ignore my conscience? id just ignore it Maeve .. LLs own business model encourages ripoffs .. its just 1 way certain unscrupulous ppl choose to play the game .. if ppl are getting ripped off over & over again they must be pretty dumb .. so long as you know better what business is it of yours ?? besides .. do you really think LL is going 2 do anythinga bout it ?? i dont even think they have the staff to investigate stuff like this .. but do what you will Jeanne

Clint Quandry wrote: Ok.. I have had the "good ole" Voting Station, v1.3 in my clubs now for.. years.. They make a sound when someone votes.. it tells you how many votes were tallied today so far... you can only vote once a day... but now I hear the data is NOT going to LL anymore? So... what's the purpose of them? Is it true that LL doesn't use the data anymore for rankings in search? How does one get a better ranking then? What other ways are there to market a club, etc? Am I just too "old school"? Has SL technology left me in the dust? many places still have em & hostesses will still encourage you to 'tap that ole vote box' but my understanding is that theyre outuv comission for anything useful Jeanne

Rival Destiny wrote: I've heard many things as well in this regard. One thing that does sound out there, is anyone being able to get your rl address. I've never divulged this info to LL so am unsure how anyone could obtain such info in sl? Am I missing something? they get your IP address .. depending on your service provider that may or may not enable em to pinpoint your rl address but it can provide a place to start looking for info on you & if theyre persistent enuf they can prolly find out who you are & where you live .. theres a whole scandal about ppl doing this to others via SL .. harassing ppl & trying to get them fired from their jobs or kicked outuv school .. but were not allowed to discuss it here .. the mods will delete the posts .. so if you want to read about it or discuss it freely you hav2 do so over @ Second Life Universe Jeanne

Amethyst Jetaime wrote: /me shakes head in disgust and walks away promise? good riddance !! :catlol: Jeanne

XbabylonX wrote: Hello there, I was always wondering what causes the big lag on crowded places. Is that a server side matter or depends on each client computer resources? the more avatars .. more scripts .. more motion .. then the more processor capacity more bandwidth & more lag w/ my old computer lag was mostly client side .. ie my machine my new computer has a powerful GPU & now lag is mostly network .. ie the internet i seldom see server side lag unless something weird is going on Jeanne

CuteHunniTeddy wrote: Hi everyone I'd appreciate as much help as possible, with store names and opinions. I'm looking for a new skin, no makeup or very natural makeup with nice freckles or, just nice freckles on tattoo layer. I use a toddleedoo mesh avatar so the body isn't really important, just the face my skin doesnt have freckles but i have a makeup kit that comes w/ freckles .. 2 different freckle patterns in fact .. i recommend that cuz its more versatile .. can wear em or not Jeanne

Perrie Juran wrote: JeanneAnne wrote: im sorry that i said that My Sweet Lord was worth more in dollar terms than some silly pixel shoes are .. it goes w/out saying that MSL is priceless .. its a work of prophetic genius that belongs to us all & for there to have been a lawsuit over it is obscene .. What do you mean "belongs to us all?" It belonged to George. i disagree .. it was given to us all thru George .. like the sun & the air & the ocean it belongs to us all .. all great works of inspired genius do .. i dont begrudge George himself receiving some compensation for his work .. just so he could be free from material concerns so the spirit could continue to flow thru him undistracted .. but the greedy record companies can bite me .. i have no qualms whatsoever about getting over on those greedy parasitic bastards :catlol: LoL

those are some very nice pieces of work Perrie .. & dont get me wrong .. if someone has fun making stuff .. in rl or sl .. more power to em .. i dont resent their patience or skill or artistry .. what i dont like is the mercenary aspect of making things for profit & getting so bent over perceived infringements .. real or imagined .. that they suck the fun outuv sl my sister has a friend who rps being a vampire & my sis paid i dont remember how many thousands of L$ for some silly amulet of power that vampires like .. she knew it was silly but did it anyway as a token of friendship .. she likes giving things away .. she is the opposite of the greedy merchants who dominate this forum .. she also makes shoes btw .. she gave me a pair that i can make any color i want to match whatever outfit im wearing .. she sells her shoes on MP but i bet shed just give them to anyone who asked .. she often gives away shoes & elegant gowns & tuxedos to anyone who attends her DJing gigs the guy who gave me my biggest sailboat .. i have 3 now .. makes boats in both rl & in sl .. his creations are fast & sleek & elegant & he gets buku euros & L$ for them .. yet he just gave me 1uv his nicest boats* just cuz i was friendly & danced with him .. this kinduv generosity is what SL should be about .. not how much L$ you can get for stuff & how paranoid you can be that some1 mite be copybotting your stuff im sorry that i said that My Sweet Lord was worth more in dollar terms than some silly pixel shoes are .. it goes w/out saying that MSL is priceless .. its a work of prophetic genius that belongs to us all & for there to have been a lawsuit over it is obscene .. Jeanne * or it would be nice .. if the dam thing would cross sim boundaries !! :catfrustrated:

Perrie Juran wrote: JeanneAnne wrote: >>Old pirates, yes, they rob I Sold I to the merchant ships ... How long shall they kill our prophets While we stand aside and look? << "subconscious" plagiarism .. just how do you prove or disprove that ?? "My Sweet Lord" was worth millions .. but a pair of virtual shoes ?!? seems to me like the whole thing is a can of worms .. is ridiculous really .. if you make something just give it away .. that way the game stays fun .. obsessing over copybotting & IP & DCMA just turns SL in2 a snakepit of paranoia & resentment & greed know what i ought 2 do? i ought to start making stuff much .. but not too much .. like other ppls stuff .. only better .. & giving it away for free .. just to be onery .. & to mock the stupidity of getting all caught up in the LL toy economy .. LoL .. naww tho .. too much trubble .. & i dont really care all that much anyhow .. Jeanne "My Sweet Lord" was worth millions .. but a pair of virtual shoes ?!?" Do you realize the value's judgement you are making there? Both these things, the song writing and making "pixel shoes" represent the Livelihood of people. Maybe one is assigned a higher dollar value than the other, but they both can be someones Livelihood. And as I said in another post, making a decent pair of pixel shoes may not be as easy as meets the eyes, from concept to finished product. Are we going to judge the worth of someone's life by the dollar value? I decided I wanted fog on my land for Halloween. Decided to do it myself. Figuring out the scripts, the particles, etc, took me over an hour. (yeah, I'm a rookie at this). It's not the greatest fog I have seen, but it's my fog and I'm proud of it. It still took real work and effort on my part. No! im not going to judge worth by the dollar value .. quite the opposite in fact .. whats so sacrosanct about "livelihood" anyway? every1 makes a "living" 1 way or another .. until they dont .. @ which time they die .. & relative affluence has ltl to do with it .. in fact id argue that affluence gets in the way of living .. in the developed west ennyway .. personally i value fun over making a "living" .. seems like several posters imply that once some1s "living" becomes involved that makes it serious .. i dont want a fun game being serious .. its not my fault that some1 chooses to turn a fun game in2 their "living" .. why should i respect that? seems like none of you respect my resentment of your "living" getting in the way of my fun Dizzi & Nightshade had their 5th sl anniversary party on their sim .. its Norse themed & they had incredible weather efx .. fog rain snow lightning ... very well done .. almost felt cold from it .. i prolly enjoyed their fog as much as you enjoyed your own .. more maybe .. cuz i didnt hav2 go2 the trubble of making it myself .. all i had to do was be invited to the party Jeanne

Innula Zenovka wrote: A sees an item being sold by B that A thinks is a violation of her (A's) IP. A submits a DMCA takedown notice. B either complies or files a counter-notice, in which case, yes, it will need to be decided by a court. Some people make a living from selling content in SL, remember. well .. i think that if i was the judge id tell A & B that i have murderers & bank robbers to deal w/ .. & you guys can sort your pixel shoes out between yourselves .. seems like we pay enuf in taxes as is .. ppl arguing over pixel shoes in court strikes me as being pretty silly Jeanne

>>Old pirates, yes, they rob I Sold I to the merchant ships ... How long shall they kill our prophets While we stand aside and look? << "subconscious" plagiarism .. just how do you prove or disprove that ?? "My Sweet Lord" was worth millions .. but a pair of virtual shoes ?!? seems to me like the whole thing is a can of worms .. is ridiculous really .. if you make something just give it away .. that way the game stays fun .. obsessing over copybotting & IP & DCMA just turns SL in2 a snakepit of paranoia & resentment & greed know what i ought 2 do? i ought to start making stuff much .. but not too much .. like other ppls stuff .. only better .. & giving it away for free .. just to be onery .. & to mock the stupidity of getting all caught up in the LL toy economy .. LoL .. naww tho .. too much trubble .. & i dont really care all that much anyhow .. Jeanne