JeanneAnne

Innula Zenovka wrote: I'm sure you suspect that, but the question that interests me is, "do you have any particular reason for regarding these suspicions as anything other than wildly improbable?". I'm sure, if you try, you can think of other reasons.. some perfectly innocent, some not so innocent .. why people might not want to be disturbed. Why is it that, on encountering ban lines, you don't (apparently) think, "ah.. the people there don't want strangers wandering in and disturbing them in the middle of a private conversation" or "they don't want people disturbing them when they're in the middle of some pixel sex" and, instead, jump to the conclusion "aha.. they're engaged in sexual ageplay"? It seems to me a very strange first conclusion to draw. know what my issue w/ ban lines is? maybe youll think its trivial or funny ... my sisters & i currently live on 1/4 sim .. we dont have ban lines up .. people on the other corners have come & went .. & some of them have put up ban lines & some have not .. i have a skyhouse above our 1/4 sim & it is near where the 4 quarters come together .. we have a Zoobie cat named Ramona .. she was a gift i gave to my sister .. i can pet her & set her to roam & put her on follow .. but i gave her to my sister so its my sister who has her in inv & really controls her what has happened is that i put Ramona on 'follow' & flew up to my skyhouse with her .. after we hung out there i jumped & she jumped with me .. i came down on our 1/4 sim but couldnt find Ramona .. i was freaked & my sister wasnt inworld .. next time i saw her i told her that i had lost Ramona .. since she has Ramona in inv i guess she just re-rezzed her & there she was so a few days later the same thing happened .. but this time i flew up in the sky looking for her .. there she was !! on the other side of those damn yellow ban lines .. bouncing up & down in the air !! apparently when i jumped i came down on our side but Ramona came down on the other side of the ban lines & got stuck there .. I had her on follow but somehow she couldnt cross the ban lines .. so my sister had to fix her again after that i started jumping off the opposite side of my skyhouse & Ramona came down with me .. those ppl who put up those lines are gone & either their 1/4 sim is for rent or someone else has rented it who hasnt put up ban lines .. i hate ban lines because they made me loose my cat !! & that caused me anxiety .. so thats the real reason i hate them maybe people put up ban lines for a variety of reasons .. or for no reason besides that they can .. so they do .. my sisters & i feel no need to put up ban lines .. anyone is welcome where we live .. so maybe just because ppl put up ban lines it doesnt necessarily mean that theyre engaged in sexual age play & dont want any witnesses to file ARs on them .. but the POINT IS ... that ban lines ALLOW ppl to get away with sexual ageplay .. so whenever i see those yellow lines im going to suspect that MAY be whats going on behind those lines .. if LL was really serious about putting an end to sexual ageplay they would disable ban lines Jeanne

Amethyst Jetaime wrote: I can think of a number of very valid reasons that people would want to keep you or anyone else out. maybe it's because theyre engaged in sexual ageplay there & they dont want any witnesses filing ARs on them for it thats what i suspect anyway .. whenever i see those yellow ban lines Jeanne

Peggy Paperdoll wrote: VAT is a tax. LL collects the tax for the governments that impose the tax on it's citizens or users of a service in their country. LL must collect the tax or cease doing business in the country that has the tax in place. The user, also, must pay the tax or cease using the service..........there is no "opt out". The tax is separate above and beyond the fees LL charges for it's service and is listed as a tax (probably VAT but I don't live in a country that imposes a VAT so I can't be sure how it's stated, but it must be separated from the fees). It's not at all unlike a sales tax people in the United States pay for products and services that the tax is applied to........Target collects the tax on products that are subject to the tax for all consumers (it's listed as a tax on the reciept you recieve). You cannot refuse to pay the tax without refusing to buy the product(s). Target doesn't pocket that money........they must pay the taxing authority. They are merely collecting the tax for the government and they must hand that money over to the government (or face criminal charges). LL does the same with VAT. The government gets the money, not the company. The consumer pays it to the company only because the government requires the company to collect it. thanks Peggy .. thats what i thot Jeanne

Marybeth Cooperstone wrote: I make my RL living as a tax lawyer, mostly writing tax laws for state and local governments and arguing about those laws in court. In general, the term "tax" refers only to money collected by a government (income, sales, property, etc.). Money collect by non-government entities, including Linden Labs, other software companies, and other organizations go by some other name such as commissions, fees, dues, etc. but not "tax". For example, my homeowners collects dues, which I am legally obligated to pay. They use this money for maintenance of the privately owned roads in my neighborhood, among other things. Yet they do not and cannot call it a "tax". If LL ever collects a tax, that would be money that they collect on behalf of some government. But, at present, there is no such thing. The money that LL collects to maintain the infrastructure and other purposes may go to a "virtual government", and, as such it is very similar to a tax. But they are not a real government and therefore what they collect is not a tax. MBC Standard lawyers' disclaimer: The above is not legal advice and the reader and I am not in an attorney/client relationship. Standard Marybeth disclaimer: When it comes to advice, you get what you pay for. "If LL ever collects a tax, that would be money that they collect on behalf of some government. But, at present, there is no such thing." doesnt LL collect VAT from euros? Jeanne

Jazzy Bianco wrote: I have been a part of SL for over 2 years. I have tried to join a sorority-failed. I have tried to have a relationship-failed (he left SL). I have tried to model-failed (I don't know if the company is around anymore.) I have been pretty much a loner. No friends, no family. My time is spent visiting the different live music events, different clubs, sightseeing, exploring, shopping, etc. all alone. I have tried and tried to make friends and yet I fail. I join in on the conversation in local chat. I pm a person when I have a comment just for them. I really make an effort but it seems that everyone has their established family/friends and thats it for them. What am I doing wrong?? Should I just acknowledge that SL is not for me and leave? I have thought about getting into rp but I have no idea where to begin or how that works. So thats a dead end. oh Jazzy .. i dont think youre a failure .. in SL there is no fail .. i know what you mean about ppl being all into their friends & their thing & not having time for anything or anybody else .. but not every1 is like that .. iv had great times in SL .. exciting adventures .. emotional rollercoaster .. great fun ..... interspersed w/ long periods of boredom like you describe .. i hope you dont leave .. something fun is sure to turn up !! Jeanne

Tracy Redangel wrote: I'm sure it's pointless to even talk about this any more, but I just can't help myself. *Grabs some popcorn* As distasteful as it may be to most people, some women and men play out rape fantasies in RL. As long as they are consenting adults, there is nothing illegal about such activity, no matter how offsensive/vile, despicable you may find it to be. Consent is the operable word here. Second Life rape/violent roleplay cannot occur against anyone's will. If one of the parties involved in those activities decides at any point not to engage, all they have to do is mute the person, tp home, log off. More to the point, it's legal between two consenting adults in RL, so LL isn't really going to touch that subject. Clearly, any sort of sexual activity with a minor is not, nor will ever be deemed as consensual. It's also illegal. It also got SL negative media attention before Linden Labs banned ageplay altogether. So maybe if enough politicians got together espousing the evils of women being beaten and raped (nevermind the fact the women are fully consenting to have these things done to them) in Second Life, then maybe SL will ban it. Or not, who cares. I'm just here for the shoes and clothes. And hair. heres the thing tho Tracy .. the person behind the child avatar is almost certainly a consenting adult too .. and at the same time you dont know but what the "consenting adult" behind the adult avatar isnt a minor who has lied about his or her age .. so you have consenting adults having their activities limited while you may have children getting away with things they shouldnt be doing .. plus sexual ageplay goes on in private sims .. the only way LL finds out about it is if someone reports it .. so where it does go on the "land owners" simply set up yellow ban lines & get away with violating the ToS and breaking the law Jeanne

Theresa Tennyson wrote: JeanneAnne wrote: so why cant SL be run like a "very small family or tribal unit"? id be into that !! Jeanne Ever see a Sam Shepard play? i dont believe so Theresa .. altho i may have .. i like to see plays but often dont pay attention to who wrote them .. Jeanne

Amethyst Jetaime wrote: JeanneAnne wrote: Hilton Harpoon wrote: lol.. What is your excuse for the term land? "land" is just the new-speak for renting server space .. 'residents' dont 'own land' .. tier is rent on server space for code .. LL has convinced SL players to adopt these terms that disguise whats really going on .. its a marketing gimmick & it works! ppl think they 'own' pixel space & put up ban lines & become all territorial .. LoL .. SL is a window in2 human self-delusion .. Jeanne I don't think LL is fooling anyone. People know that it is server space they are renting. If no one rented any server space SL would be limited to a few sims and you wouldn't have anywhere to go to do the things you find entertaining. If someone pays for the pixels its is their call to do do with them what they want, including not allowing you to use any or restrict how you use them, if they so choose. Why would anyone pay for them if that were not the case? The only one delusional here is you for thinking that SL could still exist if everything were free or that creators would create if anyone could take their stuff without asking. It has never worked in RL, except in very small family or tribal units where even then they didn't allow another tribe or family come and help themselves to anything, but defended their territories. It won't work in SL either. @ the OP Xstreet >SLexchange>Marketplace has always charged a commission on sales and have always had rules and regulations. The fee has changed over the years but so has the price of everything. The fee is not a tax as only governments cab levy taxes.. Rules change too as needed. So what exactly did you predict? Let's be intellectually honest - nothing. if people think about whats going on most realize that 'land' in SL is virtual and what theyre 'buying' is rented space on a server somewhere to store code .. but by promoting a terminology that disguises this fact LL fosters the false sense that one is 'buying' something tangible that they then 'own' .. this is a marketing gimmick that makes it more palatable for SL players to give LL money .. 'owning land' sounds better than 'renting server space' .. thats all .. people may know the difference but what theyre buying into is the illusion over the weekend i was exploring around deserted sims .. many had businesses & residential areas .. some of the homes were very nice .. some had yellow ban lines around them but most didnt .. sometimes i would go to those that didnt & go in the houses & look around .. it didnt hurt anything .. i didnt track in mud on the carpet .. i didnt steal anything .. so i hav2 wonder what the point is of putting up yellow ban lines to keep people out .. of course ppl can put those lines up .. theyre able to if they want to cuz LL allows it .. but what purpose do they serve? seems to me like all they do is display the paranoia of those who pay good money for the illusion of 'owning' a virtual house so why cant SL be run like a "very small family or tribal unit"? id be into that !! Jeanne

Hilton Harpoon wrote: Why debate? Lets just declare you the BOSS of everything and follow your lead.. Sound good to you? Nooooo !! Me! Me! i wanna be boss of everything .. not her !! ( Jeanne

Hilton Harpoon wrote: lol.. What is your excuse for the term land? "land" is just the new-speak for renting server space .. 'residents' dont 'own land' .. tier is rent on server space for code .. LL has convinced SL players to adopt these terms that disguise whats really going on .. its a marketing gimmick & it works! ppl think they 'own' pixel space & put up ban lines & become all territorial .. LoL .. SL is a window in2 human self-delusion .. Jeanne

Hilton Harpoon wrote: "Marketplace Commission (for delivered items)" xxxxxx$$$ Why doesn't SL call this a Sales Tax? Isn't this a virtual world? Worlds must have taxes right? (LOL) This has been going on for a while and I predicted it would happen on slexchange.com long before it was implemented.. It's sad to see this "metaverse" reflect RL in so many ways.. Pardon me for venting, but I hate to see all the potential and effort people were willing to put in to "this" go down the drain due to so many regulations. I thankfully have a life beyond SL. Peace its possible to have a great time in SL w/out spending a cent of real money .. you'll get dogpiled by merchants & content creators if you dis the SL toy economy .. Jesus needs to show up in SL w/ a whip Jeanne

Czari Zenovka wrote: JulesMatriarchy wrote: I hereby propose the following amendments to the SL TOS. It should be forbidden to: Post, display or transmit Content that is obscene, misogyny, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable; Post, display or transmit any material, object or text that encourages, represents, or facilitates sexual violence and abuse against women. Let's start the debate. I thought the purpose of Zindra was partially for this type of content. i went to Zindra for the 1st time 2day .. it was dead !! i used the map to find green dots .. 1 place was some hookers just standing around .. they were rude to me .. said freelance wasnt welcome LoL .. then another place there were a bunchuv avatars just standing around .. they werent dancing or chatting or anything .. just standing there i guess waiting for some1 to proposition them for pixel sex .. it was the stupidest thing ever .. so i flew & TPed around & saw all these deserted sex shops & slex places w/ no1 in em .. honestly .. whats the point ?!? Jeanne

Perrie Juran wrote: It's also a matter of the shared experience. Grooving together to the music with friends or with a date. I worked as a dancer for a little while in a club (I was their first and last male dancer) and I have also hosted. Hosting can actually be a lot of work if you are doing it "right." Everything from helping the Newb find the dance balls to dealing with bite and spam complaints from the guests when a$$hats decide to be annoying. It really does require your full attention if it's a popular place. true for sure Perrie! iv been asked if i wanted to hostess but im not sure i could sustain the required focus & attention for 2 hrs. .. iv heard many say that being host or hostess is harder than DJing .. & it usually doesnt pay as well .. i prefer to be sortuv an unofficial hostess @ my sisters gigs .. i say 'hi' to ppl & try to be friendly & chat w/ ppl & dance w/ them if they ask .. iv been told that this is valuable & even more valuable than any tips i might give .. in fact iv been told not to tip .. or if i want to tip i should tip the venue .. & iv had tips returned or been given a present worth more than my tip .. iv also been mistaken for the hostess & tipped .. in which cases iv 4warded the tip to the actual hostess or returned it if there wasnt a hostess .. by being there & being attractive & pleasant i help bring in traffic for the venue & tips for my sisters & this is my contribution towards rent where we live .. i dont often tip but the exception is for fundraisers .. i always try to contribute what i can for a good cause i have a stream up ~Annie's Majikal Muzikal Medley~ but i havent actually DJed in SL yet .. im not familiar enuf w/ SAM yet .. & im shy about it .. & i cant really compete w/ my sisters who are true pros .. but i may start DJing .. friends who have a ltl dance club on a private sim have told me that i can start out there .. there wont be any1 i dont know or any1 who would laugh @ me there .. so i may try that .. if i become a SL DJ i wont be the 1st who learned it from my sisters .. they have taught several pretty popular DJs how to do it .. just like theyve been teaching me Jeanne

Perrie Juran wrote: I would love to tip more than I do but I have to live within a RL budget. Once a month a buy "x' number of Linden Dollars and that's it. Some DJ's do an awesome job of 'creating an experience.' They will get larger tips from me than a DJ who it seems has just randomly set up and que'd a play list. i randomly stream my main playlist mostuv the time but every song has been vetted & is a good one some evenings i queue up a playlist of blues or celtic or long 'epic' songs or pagan spiritual or world beat or spanish language .. but iv carefully selected those tunes & the order they play in but i agree w/ you Perrie .. for Djing to really be an art the DJ needs to be there, be interacting w/ her audience, setting a mood, building energy & modulating it, adding & removing songs from the queue as the moment suggests, taking requests & fitting them in seemlessly & conveying the sense that shes having fun ... there are some really good DJs who are skillful @ all this who do very well in tips .. but they are selective about where they perform & for whom & what crowd .. mostly youll find them doing private rezz day & anniversary parties .. etc .. & doing fundraisers for good causes Jeanne

Valen Serpente wrote: JeanneAnne wrote: how do you random teleport Valen? Jeanne I just open ye 'ol map, move it around a bit and click any old place. :smileysurprised: oh ok .. i thot mebbe ther was a way to set it on random & just end up anyplace .. thanks! Jeanne

how do you random teleport Valen? Jeanne

thanks Hikaru iv only been in sl for a year .. i appreciate seeing how it looked back in the old days Jeanne

JulesMatriarchy wrote: I hereby propose the following amendments to the SL TOS. It should be forbidden to: Post, display or transmit Content that is obscene, misogyny, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable; Post, display or transmit any material, object or text that encourages, represents, or facilitates sexual violence and abuse against women. Let's start the debate. theres lotsuv sick **bleep** that goes on in sl .. the very nature of a virtual world attracts pervs of all sorts .. they can geta way w/ doing stuff theyd be scared to do or physically couldnt do in rl .. maybe this is a good thing in that it allows them to rp their sick fantasies w/out actually hurting anyone .. maybe its a bad thing in that it gets them all worked up to go out in2 rl & act out the stuff they do in sl .. i dont know .. its a topic for research i think that the sexual ageplay that IS banned is hypocritical .. cant do that w/ a virtual child but CAN do it w/ a virtual woman or werecat or somethin .. seems like a double standard to me .. but LL only responds to what the law is in this regard .. its not like they really care what goes on so long as they dont get in trouble in gerrmany or somewhere .. & actually such things DO go on in private sims where anyone who would file a TOS violation is banned basically .. i think that whatever you find objectionable is your own business .. live & let live .. if you dont like something dont do it & dont go to sims where it goes on .. just mind your own business Jeanne

Sithiaven wrote: So, it's not so much my tips are that big, but more that so few people tip now-a-days, or just give a token tip of an L or two that when someone get's $50, $100, etc. they are super gratful. yeah .. more or less ..i guess .. altho usually the tipjar itself will automatically thank you for a tip .. no matter how dinky .. & the DJ or hostess will thank the tipper even tho they may be thinking 'whata tightwad' for the dinky tip .. most DJs arent in2 it for the $L .. they enjoy sharing music & make far less than minimum wage for their time .. if you are in it for the L$ clubs & public venues arent very lucrative .. private parties are where the big tips come in i have a stream via SAM & Icecast but dont DJ in SL .. its too much trubble & isnt worth it .. Jeanne

tip as much or as ltl as you feel like & can afford Sith .. most ppl dont tip anything Jeanne

"show some linden love" "drop some lindens in my naughty box"

when i got a new high end grafix card it improved how SL looked in terms of textures & details .. but didnt improve fps all that much .. it eliminated client side lag but did nothing about network lag .. its prolly your isp is slow .. not the card Jeanne

Czari Zenovka wrote: Ack!!! I can see how that experience would cause you to be cautious. I've never vacuumed the PC (out of curiosity, were you using a regular vacuum or one of those little ones made for PCs that run on batteries?) - I just use canned air and let it "dry out" a bit before putting the case back on. Taking the PC out of the desk is a good move. Computers don't make the most elegant of decor accessories, but beats them burning out. I was using the regular vacuum w/ the hose & pointy attachment .. & i was attempting to not touch any components w/ it .. i may have accidently touched something or a static spark may have jumped .. i didnt see any spark but after vacuuming the computer was simply dead .. i took it to Best Buy & told them id been vacuuming & they said it was prolly a static spark & my brother agreed .. it was fried :womansad: Jeanne

Botanical Rootcreeper wrote: This might be a silly question but have you checked all your drivers are good and upto date.? AMDs have always run very hot compaired to cpus such as pentiums also . I regularly overclock my equipment which generates alot of heat,. i have excellent fan system which can be controlled manually or by the pc it self.. bit noicey but works well. yeah BR .. i know to keep drivers up to date .. i did in my old computer & the new one had brand new hardware & drivers i told my brother that i would prefer a Nvidia over an AMD GPU but he insisted on AMD cuz he said that he didnt like Nvidia drivers .. i started a post in this forum ~ be4 i got banned LoL ~ asking about which chip set is best .. seems like the overall preference was for Nvidia but the ppl who sounded like they knew the most about it told me that it depended on the card not the company & what model it was & what i was going to do w/ it .. etc .. which was what my brother said too .. so i left it up to him .. maybe it was just coincidence or bad luck but now im down on AMD cuz i apparently got 2 bad cards from them .. the 2nd replacement was definitely bad from the very start the fans that came w/ the case are controlled by the cpu .. & they were running @ 99% .. the 3 i installed i think run @ a fixed rpm .. im now maxxed out on fan capacity and i have a big fan in the room blowing on the computer .. my temps are back down more reasonable now but are still a bit higher than ppl are reporting in this thread .. when running SAM & SL together at least Jeanne

Qwalyphi Korpov wrote: Running two viewers concurrent: System temp (maybe this is about case temp) 33, Core temp 57 Idle: System temp (maybe this is about case temp) 31, Core temp 40 those temps seem more reasonable Qwalyphi .. & are more in line w/ what im reading now .. perhaps a bit higher .. i use2 run 2 viewers w/ an alt but havent in awhile .. i wasnt having trouble running SL OR streaming w/ SAM .. but both together was when it was getting hot & freezing Jeanne