Lance Kent Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 As the topic says, is the beta grid offline atm? I can't seem to find a status page, and would like to know if I need to submit a ticket or not. Stuck at 'Retrieving region capabilities' Thanks in advance, and sorry if it's a dumb question. Been out of the game for several years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animats Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) Aditi is not down, exactly, but something changed which broke viewer compatibility, badly. Firestorm 6.6.8 can't log into Aditi at all. The current LL Materials release candidate viewer, 7.0.0.581126, can log in, but avatars are stuck at white clouds and teleports are broken. Tried on two different computers. It's broken. Firestorm 6.6.8 on the main grid seems fine. LL is at the point where glTF materials are about to launch, and apparently something went wrong. Edited July 31, 2023 by animats 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Kent Posted July 31, 2023 Author Share Posted July 31, 2023 Thank ya kindly. Default viewer let me in, but avatar won't load, some items missing, and I don't have the option to upload a mesh. As in the selection isn't in the upload menu. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindens Monty Linden Posted July 31, 2023 Lindens Share Posted July 31, 2023 Certs expired on aditi simhosts. Poking various people but this may be awhile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucia Nightfire Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Why does certificate expiration seem to be a common theme at LL? Why is there not someone designated to keep those concurrent? This has been a problem for as long as I've been using the platform. This simply should not happen at all with any professional business organization. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindens Monty Linden Posted July 31, 2023 Lindens Share Posted July 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Lucia Nightfire said: Why does certificate expiration seem to be a common theme at LL? There's a point where it simply becomes tradition... 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionalein Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 15 minutes ago, Monty Linden said: There's a point where it simply becomes tradition... *starts performing "Fiddler on the roof" opening number* 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstu Nyoki Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 it seems that way i was able to get in on an older version of Firestorm But yeh avi not loading and cant upload mesh so thats put a huge dent into my creating as i dont really want to pay L each time just to test my items even if LL would just love that.. sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindens Monty Linden Posted August 1, 2023 Lindens Share Posted August 1, 2023 It's not entirely back yet but some SLS regions on Aditi are now working and being tested. Ahern for one (not Morris or Dore and Bonifacio is a little sick at the moment). Recommend waiting a bit but if you need to get work done... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstu Nyoki Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 so.. what has even happened exactly? like what has caused this to happen? seems very weird. a friend told me LL dont care about the test grid and are not supporting it but i assume that cant be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Kent Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 As it stands right now, using the default viewer, I can get into the beta grid, but av refuses to load, inventory never finishes loading, can't tp anywhere, and no mesh upload options. It's hard to know what's the grid, and what needs a ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindens Monty Linden Posted August 1, 2023 Lindens Share Posted August 1, 2023 Just certs expiration. Some AWS migration expediencies slow the response actions a bit but that's the essence. @Lance Kent try logging in to Ahern directly and see how things go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claireschen Hesten Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 6 hours ago, lordstu Nyoki said: it seems that way i was able to get in on an older version of Firestorm But yeh avi not loading and cant upload mesh so thats put a huge dent into my creating as i dont really want to pay L each time just to test my items even if LL would just love that.. sigh If you do use Firestorm it has a local mesh function in the build menu that will let you test out mesh on the main grid for free the upload is temporary for as long as you're logged in 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animats Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Monty Linden said: Just certs expiration. Some AWS migration expediencies slow the response actions a bit but that's the essence. @Lance Kent try logging in to Ahern directly and see how things go. Ahern on Aditi seems to be back up for Firestorm 6.6.8. Dore blanked out and came back quickly. Walking into Dore caused lower body to disappear. Trying to get back into Ahern caused a stall, then a forced disconnect. Edited August 1, 2023 by animats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindens Monty Linden Posted August 1, 2023 Lindens Share Posted August 1, 2023 Yup, crossing into a bad region will end your journey. All the viewer's capabilities break as well as other things. Bonafico is looking better and the 'Second Life Server' channel is where you want to stay to get work done for the moment. (Yes, I know, we don't advertise channels like we used to. We'll talk about that later....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animats Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (This looks very much like certain types of region crossing failure. There are some useful insights here. The viewer has to complete several HTTP transactions with caps and the event poller at a region crossing, but there's not much in the way of viewer-side visibility as the tasks complete or fail to complete. Perhaps worth tracking viewer side, and displaying in some diagnostic panel. Not a subject for tonight, but worth later attention.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathrine Jansma Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 21 hours ago, Lucia Nightfire said: Why is there not someone designated to keep those concurrent? The only right solution is to automate that stuff away. Just throw in some ACME or AWS magic and the simhosts or load balancers should be able to refresh their certificates on restart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dra1c Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 4 hours ago, Monty Linden said: Yup, crossing into a bad region will end your journey. All the viewer's capabilities break as well as other things. Bonafico is looking better and the 'Second Life Server' channel is where you want to stay to get work done for the moment. (Yes, I know, we don't advertise channels like we used to. We'll talk about that later....) could you please explain that to someone who does not know what the 'Second Life Server' channel is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Fredriksson Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 If you fill in Ahern as destination logging in the original SL Viewer you can work again, upload mesh, textures and you see your full avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Beauchamp Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Monty Linden said: Just certs expiration. Interesting... I usually update the ca-bundle.crt for my viewer each time LL is issuing a new one, but it looks like I missed the latest update (that likely occurred during LL's git migration from bitbucket to github), meaning my viewer is still using the ”old” bundle, instead... and works better (just fine, actually) with it in Aditi right now ! 🤣 The latest is not always the greatest, after all... 😜 3 hours ago, Kathrine Jansma said: The only right solution is to automate that stuff away. Indeed, and I am surprised AWS servers are not configured for it by default... Edited August 1, 2023 by Henri Beauchamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstu Nyoki Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 15 hours ago, Claireschen Hesten said: If you do use Firestorm it has a local mesh function in the build menu that will let you test out mesh on the main grid for free the upload is temporary for as long as you're logged in yeah my issue is local mesh does not work with scripts and that is sorta the main thing as without that i cant really see if it;s working correctly lol i guess i just have to wait for it to be fixed lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstu Nyoki Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 15 hours ago, Monty Linden said: Yup, crossing into a bad region will end your journey. All the viewer's capabilities break as well as other things. Bonafico is looking better and the 'Second Life Server' channel is where you want to stay to get work done for the moment. (Yes, I know, we don't advertise channels like we used to. We'll talk about that later....) also not sure what the Second Life Server channel is? if there is a way i can get work done would love to know how lol but thank you for doing what you can to help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindens Monty Linden Posted August 2, 2023 Lindens Share Posted August 2, 2023 Also thanks for the forum post. Because of it, correction and prevention got underway earlier than they would have. Sometimes the forums do useful work! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Beauchamp Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 7 hours ago, Monty Linden said: Sometimes the forums do useful work! It's like a little buzzer in your mind, that might ring, sometimes, to tell you that something is going wrong and breaking... Always worth a look. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillowdaleEstate Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 8 hours ago, Monty Linden said: Also thanks for the forum post. Because of it, correction and prevention got underway earlier than they would have. Sometimes the forums do useful work! I filed a ticket about it 2 days ago I still haven't had a reply on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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