Sandis Jenkins Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Was going around trying to find some new animations and noticed something weird. My avatar was leaning back. At some stores the lean was even more extreme. Any ideas why is this? Is this just how Legacy bodies are made or? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValKalAstra Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) Not sure whether it's applicable because I've never had a Mesh-body for men - but I've sometimes run into animations cross-bleeding into another. Usually when the animations where mix and match from different stores. It was like certain nodes in the animation skeleton weren't properly reset and kept accumulating every time the animation came around. It didn't happen often but was annoying when it did because the oddly bend waist stuck around and blended into all kinds of other animations. So maybe it's something like that happening here too? I mostly fixed it by resetting animations and skeleton/deformers (something, something? Can't launch right now) - then one by one working my way through and finding the guilty animation, which admittedly took longer than I cared for. Edited July 21, 2022 by ValKalAstra 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandis Jenkins Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, ValKalAstra said: Not sure whether it's applicable because I've never had a Mesh-body for men - but I've sometimes run into animations cross-bleeding into another. Usually when the animations where mix and match from different stores. It was like certain nodes in the animation skeleton weren't properly reset and kept accumulating every time the animation came around. It didn't happen often but was annoying when it did because the oddly bend waist stuck around and blended into all kinds of other animations. So maybe it's something like that happening here too? I mostly fixed it by resetting animations and skeleton/deformers (something, something? Can't launch right now) - then one by one working my way through and finding the guilty animation, which admittedly took longer than I cared for. I did try turning all animations off too and im still kind of arching backwards for some reason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blissfulbreeze Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Try stop animations and revoke permissions, it's under Avatar then Health. Also right click your avatar and find reset skeleton. Relog. See if that fixes it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandis Jenkins Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 Guys its nothing to do with animations. Even ond default SL animations im still arching backwards. So thats why Im asking if thats just how the mesh Legacy body is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, Sandis Jenkins said: Guys its nothing to do with animations. Even ond default SL animations im still arching backwards. So thats why Im asking if thats just how the mesh Legacy body is? No, it is not how it should be. Did you try the suggestions? Did you relog? Did you remove attachments? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robberinthemuseum Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Sandis Jenkins said: Guys its nothing to do with animations. Even ond default SL animations im still arching backwards. So thats why Im asking if thats just how the mesh Legacy body is? I'm legacy too. I'll be in world at around 7pm sl time tomorrow if you want to compare. It looks like an issue with an animation Edited July 21, 2022 by Robberinthemuseum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katherine Heartsong Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) That's definitely too much of a lean back. The centreline of your head (from the side) should be roughly over your knees, and your butt and certainly your shoulders, should be not hanging out over the back of your calves. This shape is a standard artist proportion, and notice also your junk is exactly halfway up your body height ... I swear, not a single body brand in SL, male or female, has ever done any study of anatomy. Edited July 21, 2022 by Katherine Heartsong 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skepwith Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Did you try resetting your skeleton? It's not the same as stopping animations. Go way down the pie menu and find "Reset skeleton." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandis Jenkins Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 Somehow it seems to have fixed itself. I already noticed this last night but did not bother to look more into it, just today while browsing the animation stores my posture was real weird. But idk what happened, he is standing all fine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan Amore Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sandis Jenkins said: Somehow it seems to have fixed itself. I already noticed this last night but did not bother to look more into it, just today while browsing the animation stores my posture was real weird. But idk what happened, he is standing all fine A relog often fixes the problem. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalegthepsionicist Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 some people stand like that, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ina Fairport Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 I have exactly the same with Maitreya body after I used my dance hud. Only a relog will fix it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maitimo Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) On 7/21/2022 at 2:45 PM, Sandis Jenkins said: Guys its nothing to do with animations. Even ond default SL animations im still arching backwards. So thats why Im asking if thats just how the mesh Legacy body is? No it isn't how legacy normally is. It's an animation issue, but likely not one you are actually wearing or playing right now. There has, at some point when the leaning-back started, been a conflict between two animations trying to move you at the same time. I sometimes see similar effects like this when getting up off of animated furniture or after detaching an object that had an animation in it. The "hold bags" that purchased clothing comes in, is often a culprit. "Stop Animations" is not the fix that will work because the animation itself is already no longer playing. It *thinks* it has put you back in the normal stand but it hasn't.. What you need is "Undeform Avatar" (in the Firestorm Avatar menu under Avatar Health) or "Reset Skeleton" (in the official viewer in the Me menu). Re-logging will also work because your skeleton is always re-set to default when you log back in, but you don't need to go to all that hassle, just do the undeform/skeleton reset above and that will fix it. If the problem reoccurs after a short time, then there is probably a dodgy animation in your AO. Edited July 22, 2022 by Maitimo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalegthepsionicist Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 imo actually normal, male stand , his hip will slightly goes front, because he will sit his upper body weight on his lower back. but yes the picture from op is too much. picture post by kattherine heartsong from side , actually imho not natural stand, it is pose stand or army soldier stand in line. natural stand is relax, you not tight your leg muscle, but let the body weight sit on yourbone , thats why pelvic will move forward a little . so abdoem can relaxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalegthepsionicist Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 thats why female wearing high heels, it use to make her hip goes back and stand in straight line. my 2 cents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaseWalsh Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 On 7/21/2022 at 10:23 AM, skepwith said: Did you try resetting your skeleton? It's not the same as stopping animations. Go way down the pie menu and find "Reset skeleton." "Rest skeleton and animations" fixed it for me. Before I was just stopping animations. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiritSparrow Skydancer Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) there is also a bug in firestorm in the AO. not sure what its about but they are working on a hot fix.. Whirly? Edited December 8, 2023 by SpiritSparrow Skydancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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