Is current Spacemouse supported?

[Crubo Carver]

Greetings, driver updates no longer support my (very) old Space Navigator so I can't use it. 

Before I buy the "new" visually identical SpaceMouse, can any users confirm that SL and Firestorm releases support it? I miss joysticking! Thank you

[Coffee Pancake]

It should work as any other joystick and be configurable in the viewer.

Although if I'm honest .. I would advise buying a wired XBox or Switch controller, least of all because it has practical application beyond the SL viewer.

[Fluffy Sharkfin]

8 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said:

It should work as any other joystick and be configurable in the viewer.

Although if I'm honest .. I would advise buying a wired XBox or Switch controller, least of all because it has practical application beyond the SL viewer.

I guess it depends on what you're doing on a day to day basis, but I can honestly say I consider my 3D mouse to be an essential component of my set up,  I hate having to use software that doesn't support it because the keyboard and mouse alternative to 3D navigation feels so horribly clunky and unnatural once you become accustomed to using a 3D mouse.  Having the ability to move the camera around an object while you're sculpting/painting is a huge improvement and feels very natural, whereas using the traditional mouse + keyboard shortcuts to do so is the equivalent of painting a model in RL and having to put your brush down every time you want to turn the object slightly.

[KT Kingsley]

35 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said:

It should work as any other joystick and be configurable in the viewer.

Although if I'm honest .. I would advise buying a wired XBox or Switch controller, least of all because it has practical application beyond the SL viewer.

SpaceNavigators are a nice toy in SL, but mainly they make Blender almost useable.

[Crubo Carver]

23 hours ago, Fluffy Sharkfin said:

I guess it depends on what you're doing on a day to day basis, but I can honestly say I consider my 3D mouse to be an essential component of my set up,  I hate having to use software that doesn't support it because the keyboard and mouse alternative to 3D navigation feels so horribly clunky and unnatural once you become accustomed to using a 3D mouse.  Having the ability to move the camera around an object while you're sculpting/painting is a huge improvement and feels very natural, whereas using the traditional mouse + keyboard shortcuts to do so is the equivalent of painting a model in RL and having to put your brush down every time you want to turn the object slightly.

To me the SpaceMouse/Navigator is more of a game-changer for SL - Fluffy's analogy to putting down your brush is perfect. As KT points out, it's mainly sold as a CAD tool. Maybe I'll try a $20 Switch controller first, before plopping $149 for the SpaceMouse. Thanks everyone!

[Echelon Alcott]

On 3/28/2022 at 12:13 PM, Crubo Carver said:

To me the SpaceMouse/Navigator is more of a game-changer for SL - Fluffy's analogy to putting down your brush is perfect. As KT points out, it's mainly sold as a CAD tool. Maybe I'll try a $20 Switch controller first, before plopping $149 for the SpaceMouse. Thanks everyone!

I agree with you and Fluffy that the SpaceMouse is a game changer for SL. I cannot imagine using SL without one.

Before you buy the latest model, I returned to SL 6 months ago, and was able to use my 12+ year-old 3Dconnexion SpaceNavigator. I downloaded the latest drivers available from the 3Dconnexion website, and it worked fine with Firestorm on Windows 10. At the beginning of this year, I switched to Windows 11 (blank install, not an upgrade from Windows 10) and again successfully got Space Navigator to work on Windows 11 and Firestorm. I recently installed Black Dragon on my computer and got the SpaceNavigator to work with Black Dragon as well (it took a little bit of tweaking, but got it working in under 5 minutes).

Please note that in both Firestorm and Black Dragon, when selecting the joystick, I use "SpaceNavigator", not "3Dconnexion KMJ Emulator".

[jiggsters]

I have used my s Spacemouse on SL for the last 8 years to navigate around and absolutely love it. It's especially great when you are cam shopping, decorating or terraforming! You have to configure it, it does not work straight out of the box but it's simple enough. I will attach a screenshot of the settings I use in Second Life. It's worth every penny.

Screenshot of settings:  https://gyazo.com/e2b520b00c101b17c32a805164d0137b

[AAngel Braveheart]

Mine works for filming dance shows in SL

BUT, it works best in Firestorm, I can take photos with the right button too

Black dragon = forget it

Alchemy = badly

SL official =  not good at all

[Crim Mip]

The SL viewer should support it natively with no driver software needed at all.

[Jackson Redstar]

It does work in all viewers I have tried although FS works best primarily, for me at least, a couple of features: input a number for feathering. I keep mine at .05 for filming work, and getting it that low with just a slider is hard and then the cam controls in the phototools panel. I use the left button to both turn off the UI and to activate the flycam for everyday filming use this is how I keep it set

[Nexii Malthus]

Any preferences and settings are typically reflected in the Debug Settings where you can set them manually, the cam feathering one you mention is called FlycamFeathering if you need to tweak it in the SL viewer.

[NiranV Dean]

I'm honestly surprised it works at all in Black Dragon. Considering that i've essentially nuked every "hack" that LL employed for Joysticks (really just for SpaceMouse) because they essentially break and make all other input devices that rely on it absolutely trash to use.

[Bavid Dailey]

Are people who report success here on MAcOS or Windows? 

What version of OS?

And, have you installed the latest drivers from Connectix ?

I ask because if I install the latest drivers on my mac m2 Pro, macOS Venturs , my space navigator doens't work at all in Firestorm (or Kokue).