Luna Bliss

Nonsense. A punishment targets someone for a perceived wrong-doing. There has been NO suggestion of that here. LL has not accused the child RP community of anything. If they had, they'd be gone. I don't think I'd call it a "punishment", but if I was forced to change my avatar in major ways because there was sexual abuse in the world I'd feel like there was something kinda wrong with me...like my way of being or self was at fault somehow. It's not logical, I know, but I can see why child avatars are feeling they're not quite okay now, and being targeted unfairly to be the solution for something they never caused.

It's becoming abundantly clear you don't actually know anyone who mains a child or anime avatar. It's because Scylla............oh wait I shouldn't psychoanalyze on the forum...

No neeed for witch hunts. If a child avatar gets landed on adult rated sims by it´s pilot, abuse report, eject, ban and done. And trust me, people know very well what makes a child avatar and what not. And so does LL. I agree there is "no need" for witch hunts if you're a sane person who does not get off on bringing others down. There's a segment of the population who enjoys going after others though...griefing others, getting them into trouble ... and they use the infraction of rules to do so.

The sad thing is is that they will definitely go on witch hunts for anything child or childlike. It's going to be like before and childlike don't mean the same thing to everyone. So you're going to have every person coming after people in so many ways. No doubt some will go on witch hunts. I just hope it's not too many, and that the least amount of child avatars as possible will be affected by it. I hope that each report LL receives will be investigated thoroughly because, as we can see on this forum, what constitutes a 'child' in appearance is not always clear.

I think you mean you would see this as lecturing and/or elitist. If I cite a poet it simply means I learned something from them and they said it a hell of a lot better than I ever could, and I'd feel guilty passing off their thoughts said in a much better way, as my own.

If one has been going after another repeatedly, criticizing them frequently, and/or attempting to undermine most anything they say -- this is not the time to "tease" them innocently (or pretend it's teasing when in fact it's veiled hostility). It will be taken as further criticism. However if you have a fairly good forum relationship with someone without a whole lot of conflict it's okay to tease then, as the teasing/sarcasm will likely be seen as such.

I deplore the abuse of anyone, particularly those with less power and so less able to defend themselves, and so I know every venue needs to do their part to minimize any depictions online that might contribute to the real abuse of children in RL. And I know LL had to do something so that SL will less likely be seen as an environment that contributes to abuse (abuse in this case being a venue that allows depictions of the abuse of children). It's a shame that some residents will have to bear the cost though. Many find experiencing their child avatars as fun and sometimes even healing. They are a fairly large segment of the SL population simply wanting the choice to live out their dream and do what enhances their lives. All we can really do to make this transition easier is not witch hunt child avatars -- not go out of our way to report those who don't yet have the correct layers now required, but instead inform them of the new rules in the kindest way possible. Also, we need to place the biggest focus on the people attempting to roleplay perpetrators who enjoy abusing children.

Likely you'll be less confused if you examine why you were compelled to repeatedly leave negative comments on my posts and/or challenge them, even stalking me over to the last 4 of my Events listings to comment with pretend kindness (which in your case is indeed a form of aggressiveness). I would definitely prefer that you ignore/block me from here on out.

I hope you responded to the poster with all the kindness and love residing in the deepest recesses of your heart.

To the OP's question -- how do we respond in a kinder way to those we disagree with? Well, we can't if we're in a clique, because our reality is distorted, and our objective is to remain united with the clique over alignment with the clearer perception that comes from thinking deeply and utilizing our own mind. Thinking is hard work. People deep into a clique really can't see their perception is distorted, and even believe the entire rest of whatever group they're in (be it in SL or the forum) is right and representative of the group they are actually only a small part of. We also have a need, in a clique, to 'get' others outside our group -- it helps unite us, forges a bond. You can often see the clique celebrate after they feel they've won a victory, taken someone down. Humankind is a mess -- we need approval and acceptance from others, but we also need our individuality. In the clique mentality we see a terrible imbalance where group-think prevails.

You've apparently not worked for some of the "companies" that I have. lol well that's why I added the "automatically".

A 'clique' or 'cartel' generally uses their power (greater power in numbers) to control others, whereas 'group' or 'company' doesn't embody that connotation automatically.

While it is definitely not nice to pile on someone due to cliquish reasons, just because multiple people in a thread have the same opinion and tell someone else that opinion, does not automatically make it a cliquish thing. When I'm right, lots of people agree with me. So maybe sometimes we all tell people the same things. Total agreement, LittleMe -- sometimes many people in a thread simply agree and have a difference of opinion regarding what a poster said. However, when you witness, over many years, how certain individuals aren't consistent in their opinion on certain issues, and they change according to who they're responding to, then I suspect clique behavior or at the very least a grudge that causes them to have distorted impressions. There are other ways to evaluate this as well.

If you RESPOND to someone in hopes of instigating a pile-on (as I've seen you do many times), most likely you are responding to said individual BECAUSE you feel offended by what they said. Perhaps there's a better way to respond to an individual you feel offended by, rather than instigating a pile-on? What I'm saying is that obfuscating facts and goading someone in hopes to gather others in your quest is not an appropriate response.

Interesting Idea, but the point of my thread is for an individual replying to another individual. That's exactly what happens in a pile-on -- one individual responds to another individual and many other individuals also respond to that same individual. Each subsequent individual responder chooses to be unkind to the targeted individual, hiding under the umbrella of support he imagines his clique provides. See this is why we have such trouble communicating -- you decide I'm off-topic whenever I describe greater complexity inherent in an issue, frequently calling it "psychological" or something when in reality it's just going deeper into the matter. It's also 'interesting' that you take such issue with this and deem it off-topic, as this dynamic described above is what you've done repeatedly to me over many years.

I've never seen you be part of the clique that joins together to trash an individual, and I really respect that about you. I have to wonder why some exhibit that behavior while others don't. Maybe it's just as you say -- you don't like arguing. Or maybe you're more mature and don't need to resort to 3rd grade antics to feel empowered. In any case, it's certainly not a kind thing to do (the cliquish pile-on) and should be included in the OP's outline.

I hope they keep making no-mod clothes. This allows them to sell 1 color/pattern at a cheap price, and then up the price for those who desire or can afford a fatpack. I imagine if they allowed retexturing with a mod item they'd have to up the price of the clothing item considerably to make any money at all. Often I just want to buy one version/texture of an item, so this is great for my budget. If I reaaaaaly reaaaaaly like something though I will buy the fatpack.

Thanks for participating! Thanks for having me!

You've done much more, but I think I'm done with this ludicrous thread.

It is so confusing when someone's responses to a post and their posted words, don't align. Also when a poster continues to do what you asked them not to, is that not the hallmarks of a narcissist? I don't know, but goading someone until they strike back with a defensive comment and then get reported by the forum cartel with a subsequent moderator warning, and when returning from their 'time-out' the instigator saying, sarcastically, "where ya been"???......is not indicative of a kind person. Quite sadistic really.

Because it feels good? That's the justification for war in any world, yes.

Thanks, and while we're at it...please stop commenting every time I make an event listing, saying things like "cool" and "great". Since these come during the time you're being critical of me and making fun of me repeatedly they come off as insincere to say the least. And you don't comment at all on other people's event listings.

So he/she doesn't do it a third time? Much 'striking back' behavior isn't needed for protection though, and usually it only escalates into multiple strikes on both sides.

Yeah I often use sculpts for terrain when prim count is an issue. /me longs for the day when mesh terrain/cliffs aren't such prim-hogs.