Persephone Emerald

As far as I can tell all the dresses shown are rigged mesh. Sorry I couldn't post bigger pictures, BTW. Some kind of glitch with forum formatting apparently.

People have been talking about mesh clothing in several threads, but a picture is worth a thousand words. If you've found good-looking mesh clothing, post a picture with the name of the designer. (You don't have to post the name if it's not so good.) So far I've only picked up free clothes & demos. I've found it's much easier to fit my thin avatar than my curvatious one. ::HH:: Hucci Julesa Dress - DEMO MESH Mesh * =^.^= Curious Kitties - [FREE] Curious Kitties Dragon Dress !Rebel Hope Designs - Fabria Mesh Gown DEMO Yasum*My Way* MESH * GIFT * Each of these dresses is free on SL Marketplace. They all look fine if you have a thin to average-size shape. But even wearing all the appropriate alpha or system layers, most of them don't look right on my more curvatious avatar. It's very important to try on the demos before you buy.

Right. What I use is called a turn 180 script. I don't think it even has a pose that goes with it, so it's super easy to use.

Here's another changing room trick. Rez a box or sphere & squish the z axiz down so it's flat. Then make the x & y axis from 5 to 10 m wide each. Texture it like a carpet or rug. Pull a standing pose out of a free pose stand & drop it inside your new rug. Now you have your own pose rug. Put another box or cylinder in the middle of it. Give it the same x & y dimensions as your rug, but make it at least 5 m tall. Make it 95% hollow & link it to your rug. Make the inside of the walls transparent & the outside however you want. Now you have a 2 prim dressing room from which you can see out but others can't see in quite so easily. When you select "sit here" from the floor prim, you will automatically go into the dressing pose. Then you can move the whole room up to whatever height you like.

Is that 1100 prims or 1100 lindens?

I generally think of gender as being in the mind of the individual, while their sex is what's between their legs (to but it bluntly). The question of identity vs. identification isn't just about gender, though. What abiout racial identity vs. identification? For instance, Is a person black or white or asian if *they* think they are or if *other people* think they are?

I think Linden Lab should have such a quiz at the bottom of the ToS document we supposedly all read & agreed to. Then they can give $L 300 to everyone who gets 100%. That would be a nice incentive to actually read the document, though I suspect LL won't have to pay out much money.

^ I Like this. :smileyhappy:

You do not have to spend real money to play in SL. There are many free items available in world & on the SL Marketplace. There are also many sandboxes where you can rez packages & build things for free. If you want to spend lindens (the currency of SL), there are some ways you can find or earn them, but it's generally easier to buy them. I'd suggest playing for free for a long while & seeing how much fun you can have & good free stuff you can find, before you decide if you want to quit yet. If you like a bit of a challenge, there are always hunts you can do to find free stuff. (ps. Edit to Add) I guess he was just another forum Troll

I realize hermaphrodite is not the most accurate or politically correct term to use, but I used it once in my post to clarify the meaning of intersexed for any neanderthals who may not know how to use a Google search when they come across a term with which they're not familiar.

"It's like the mesh IP quiz tho - everyone passes." Yay!. I was afraid if I failed I might have to repeat reading all of that stuff. I have a B.S. & I'll spend hours reading articles & forums online, but I'm lazy when it comes to technical directions & terms of agreement. I figure if common sense doesn't cover it, being a circumspect & little lucky will.

If I'm taking this quiz without it being open-book, I'll say # 1, 2, 3, 5, 7 & 8 are all stated within the SL TOS, but I'm not sure where # 4 & 6 come from. I know I agreed to the TOS, but I don't know if I agreed to that other document. How did I do, since I obviously got at least 2 questions wrong. Did I still get a passing grade? (Edit to add) Oh, oh. It looks like I got less than 50%, so then I failed. :smileysad:

"That's an interesting idea, but I personally like the SL options the way they are. I've always felt that Second Life is a mirror of real life. I grant you I don't look very masculine in Second Life but I am still a male. True transsexuals (a discussion I had with Dagmar earlier in this thread relates to that) can actually with a single click become female, or become 'post-op'. People like me, who are usually classed as 'transgendered', can exist in SL almost as they would in RL overlooking the obvious fact that we tend to have avatars that look WAY more feminine than we do in RL at our best. I like having that information 'known'. It means that when I interact with someone they know exactly who/what I am." I don't personally require a third gender option nor would most people, but I can think of a couple instances when someone might want a gender-neutral option. One is when the player doesn't want to define their gender at all in SL. They might want to play a robot, vehicle, alien or animal avatar, without having to act as any particular gender. The new animal avatars SL provides don't show an obvious gender if one doesn't wish to show one, but they still have a choice of "male animal" or "female animal". Do the robots & vehicles do the same? Wouldn't that actually be rather anthropomorphic & silly? What if a person wants to portray an alien that's a hermaphrodite or has a third or fourth gender? Then why should they have to choose either "male alien" or "female alien"? Another possibility is that the player might actually be intersexed in RL. While this is a rare condition, I have two online contacts who were born intersexed & who had their parents & doctor decide for them that they would be sexually reassigned as female without them having any say in the matter. Such a person might like to be able to play in SL as a true hermaphrodite, rather than having to pick a virtual sex & then bend it so as to look as they wish.

Considering absolutes, when each of us chooses an avatar or body shape in SL, are we not also asked if we are to be male or female? Well, of course, you might say, what else could we be? The Victorian Steampunk styled, text-based, turn-based game Echo Bazaar has a third option however. You may be a Lady, a Gentleman, or "A Person of Indeterminate Gender". Couldn't Second Life also offer an option of Other?

What is considered socially & sexually attractive often varies between different cultures. What is considered masculine also varies. A Maassi warrior would be considered very masculine in his culture, even though he wears make-up & jewelry. A bishie boy in Japan would be considered attractive to both straight women & gay men in Japan. Even in Western culture, young women have often favored the softer, younger look over the more rugged, older look. I think it's true that women are inclined to pick a man who looks like he'll protect & support her, but in a society in which intelligence is often a greater indicator of future wealth than physical strength is, maybe a computer geek is a better choice than captain of the football team.

This is copied from a notecard I made a few months ago, a list of sandboxes I like & some low-rent housing. You need a place to call home, to change clothes, to visit with friends, & perhaps to build, but you don't have to pay alot of money for these things. As newbies we usually learn to use public sandboxes for rezzing items & buildings. You can even rez a small house to use as a changing room. Below is a list of public sandboxes you might like. Most of them are PG/G rated, so teen residents can use them too. Champlain College Sandbox(180, 195,26) (G) College of NW London Sandbox, CNWL (71, 171, 26) (G) Whitmyre Island Sandbox - 6 Hour, Whitmyre (180, 105, 22) Skidz Isle Store & Sandbox - Too, Skidz Isle (70, 71, 22) The Meadow-South, Wildefleur (179, 133, 25) SANDBOX-FREEBIES, Zuma Beach (25, 135, 21) Sandbox on Little Blue Island, Teal Island (30, 40, 23) PUBLIC SANDBOX (PG), Mauve (105, 90, 33) (G) PUBLIC SANDBOX - Shelman Sandbox Mythos Sandbox & Free Sound Library, Mythos (120, 160, 496) If you want a place to live & call home, but you don't want to spend much money, I've included a list of a few rental places that are very reasonably priced. Artisticed Out Motel, Torch (35, 90, 87) (M) (This is a creepy haunted hotel near a quiet beach. Rent is only $L 50 / week.) Cheap Rent! Quaint Row Houses, Hippystamp (92, 150, 33) (M) (Great place, but the landlady isn't on much, so be patient.) Fourmile Castle Rentals and Shop, Fourmile Castle (M) (Great place with a whole castle to explore & sea views.) Ravenglass Rentals $150 Pharos, Ross (150, 132, 23) (G) (Great with ocean-side appartments & private balconies.) Ravenglass Rentals Warmouth Office, Warmouth (109, 149, 102) (G) Skid Row, Songnisan (80, 50, 83) (G) (A quiet skid row environment with a nice little bar.) Some shops also include dressing rooms or rez areas where you can unpack your packages & try on clothing. One of my favorites is DV8. Everyone's taste is different, though, so when you find a shop you like with dressing rooms & not too much lag, keep a landmark for it. Even if you own land, it's good to have a few places saved where you can change clothes if your region is down. My own shop allows visitors to rez a box, but it's a PG region, so please change your clothing inside & upstairs. Castle Briar Rose http://slurl.com/secondlife/Varean/123/60/86 Loft Bedroom hthttp://slurl.com/secondlife/Varean/135/67/93 (Edit to add info)

Not reading the other posts, but just answering the original OP. Attacking another person's spelling, grammar or typos in a forum debate is like attacking how they're dressed in a live debate. It is a very poor tactic & usually is used as a fall-back when the other person can't think of a better come back. On the other hand, if you were debating on TV or in front of a live audience, you'd be a fool not to pay attention to how you look. People judge you by how you look. On a forum, how you write takes the place of both how you sound & how you look. If you consistently use bad spelling, poor grammar & inadequate punctuation you will be judge as stupid, ignorant or careless, whether that judgment is fair or not. When you have a spell-check feature at your fingertips, use it, especially if you're in the middle of a debate with someone. But again, I've seen it time & again that a person who doesn't have a good response to an online argument will throw in a comment or two about bad spelling or some such triviality. Unless the original discussion was about spelling & grammar, it's the red-herring response at its worst. It's like saying, "Yeah, well you're ugly" in a political debate.

"Should the development of Second Life's look and feel be stopped until all people can afford to buy faster computers which are able to to render all the present and future new features?" No, of course not. Second Life should be made as detailed & feature-filled as possible for those who can afford the better computers. But there should also be options for users who can't afford the higher-end computers. If 90% of users can see SL in all it's beautifully detailed meshy glory, the 10 % who can't should be able to play along, seeing odd boxes, spheres & donuts along with the rest of the regular prim world.

I thought this was the coolest article (with pictures) I've read all year & wanted to share it. http://community.thisiscentralstation.com/_Mysterious-paper-sculptures/blog/4991767/126249.html

I thought this was the coolest article (with pictures) I've read all year & wanted to share it. http://community.thisiscentralstation.com/_Mysterious-paper-sculptures/blog/4991767/126249.html

"New sign-ups don't have nearly the freedom in choosing their usernames that we did with our SL names, meaning a lot of people are going to be stuck with usernames they really don't want as an avatar name, hence they set their avatar name using the feature designed percisely for that purpose." This isn't exactly true. When we older users signed up, we were free to create our first name, but had to choose from a list of last names. New users can now set up their user name as something like FairyWings instead of Fairy Wings (if Wings had been one of the last names on our initial sign-up list). Their problem isn't that new users have fewer choices, but that many of them don't think their user name is going to matter to anyone, themselves included. Your user name is in fact your official SL name, whether you like it or not. No matter what display name you choose to display, your user name is what rental systems & many other interactive objects respond to. I rent out a couple of parcels using a HippoRent system that only recognizes my tenants by their user name. I have a virtual pet that only recognizes user names as well. I choose to use Phoenix & Firestorm viewers, which allow me to choose whether I see user names, display names or both. I choose to see both, so I have a better idea of who is actually who. In the end, the problem with the new naming system comes down to choice & perception. We should be able to choose whatever available names we want as our user name & to display it clearly if we wish to do so. However, other people will see both our user name and our display name, whether we want them to or not. If a user of SL doesn't like his or her display name, it's easy to change. If one doesn't like their user name, the only sure way to change it is to sign up with a new account. To the OP, If you really hate the user name you picked, sign up for a new account ASAP, so you'll have a better chance of getting a name you like. If you can live with it as it is, then just change your display name & don't worry about your user name.

It's really not fair or economically sensible for Linden Lab to disable old viewers just so people with better computers will be happy. Many people can not afford to upgrade to a newer computer or better video card. And any tactic that forces people who want to use Second Life out of it would be suicide for Linden Lab.

It sounds like the OP is going to address the matter with Linden lab as soon as he or she gets home from work. I don't think you can reasonably expect people to act any faster than that.

If a user is under 18 years old & their avatar is in a Moderate (Mature) or Adult region, they are still underage as per the TOS because 16 & 17 year olds are supposed to remain in General (PG) regions. If on the other hand, you were engaging in simulated intimate activity in a General (PG) region, then you would both be at fault for that, no matter what age you are in RL. Definitely report the other account, as no one is supposed to be sharing their account, let alone with a minor.

I took some pictures of two of my avatars wearing one of the better mesh demo dresses on SL Marketplace. The feeling I have about mesh clothing is that it's more like RL clothing in a couple of ways. One is that it can move with your avatar's body better than system or prim clothing can. Another is that you have to try it on to be sure it will fit your particular body shape. If you're thinking of buying mesh clothing, be sure to try on the demo outfits first. Alycia wearing a model-sized dress without & with the appropriate alpha layer: Alycia wearing the same dress in the average & curvy size. Persephone wearing the same dress in curvy-size without & with the appropriate alpha layer.